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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:58 PM
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Important question for wine enthusiasts:
Edited on Sun Oct-31-04 10:58 PM by northwest
The next time I go to a nice restaurant, I want to order a very sweet, chilled wine, whether it be white or red. I want a wine that most resembles ice-cold soda-pop.

Last time I went to an Italian restaurant for my birthday, I made the mistake of ordering a dry, room-temperature Pinot Noir that wound up tasting like crap-crappity-ap-ap-ap. Then I tried a little of the wine my mother ordered, and it tasted a lot better. It was a chilled Zinfandel. I guess I suck at choosing wine. I just want one that tastes similar to cole Welch's grape soda. There's GOT to be a wine like that, right???
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RebelYell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:59 PM
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1. Sangria is sweet n/t
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:00 PM
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2. Alsacian Gewertztraminer
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:01 PM
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3. manechevitz!
the traditional passover wine, despite being almost universally reviled as "sickeningly sweet".

but if welch's grape juice taste is what you want, manechevitz it is!
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:09 PM
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8. Manechevitz sounds interesting...
Can it be served at 50 degrees or lower???
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:45 PM
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13. actual spelling is manischewitz...
Edited on Sun Oct-31-04 11:46 PM by unblock
yes, it's best served chilled. you're looking for wines from concord grape or other high "foxiness" wines.

a few results from googling "manischewitz wine temperature":

The Vitis Labrusca remains popular amongst New York State wine producers, mainly because they are such hardy grapes and can withstand the cold winters. The most common Vitis Labrusca grapes include Concord, Catawba and Delaware. Many of these varieties have high acidity, often masked by considerable sweetness. The resulting wines display a characteristic “foxiness” and are sometimes describes as “Welch’s” and “Manischewitz”.



Commercially, Concord is best known as a very sweet table wine and a fortified dessert wine. The best known kosher Concord wines are Manischewitz Medium Dry Concord or Cream White Concord, and wines by Kedem and Mogen David. It is also sold as a semi-sweet or sweet wine served at refrigerator temperature or over ice. A bubbly beverage spritzer can be made by adding
club soda to Concord wine.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:01 PM
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4. I can't stand chilled wine, or white wine but try Reisling (sp?)
Edited on Sun Oct-31-04 11:02 PM by Selwynn
merlot. :)

But, based on what you said, might I suggest a Reisling? That's pretty sweet, light, white and served cold (at least that's how I've had it) Reisling is sweeter than Zinandel, in my opinion.

If your going on the cheap, turning leaf's reisling is something I bet you would like, and a bottle of that is not expensive.

No wine is really going to tast like soda - no carbonation.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:08 PM
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5. Ask the restaurant if their wine list...
... includes dessert wines. They are usually sweeter and lower in alcohol content. Good restaurants will have a few on hand. Plum, strawberry and apricot wines are very easy on delicate palates.

Cheers.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:09 PM
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7. Awesome, thanx!!
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:08 PM
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6. Impress everyone or have what you want
Try a Mogan David Concord Grape Slushy,it tastes like grape juice with a strong solvent after taste.Good wine in a resteraunt cost about 4 times what you could buy it for.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:11 PM
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9. Bring your own Boone's. They love that.
:hi:
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 09:19 PM
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16. Grape Assassins!
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 09:55 PM
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18. Boone's Wine - We Crush Your Spirits
Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 09:55 PM by DS1
:D :loveya:
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:14 PM
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10. Ice wein
Edited on Sun Oct-31-04 11:15 PM by baldguy
German-style dessert wine, very expensive

Tokaj or tokay - Hungarian wine, runs from dry to semi-dry to sweet.

If you're not that adventureous, try regular White Zin, or Blue Nun (Leibfraumilch)
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:20 PM
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11. port on ice --my personal favorite but have a DD--
it will knock a newbie on their ass!
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:41 PM
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12. Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill
or Ripple. Why drink wine when you don't like it?
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:47 PM
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14. Must've been a white Zinfandel.
Regular Zinfandel is a red wine and should be served at cellar temperature. In fact, most red wines (except for Beaujolais Nouveau) ought to be served at cellar temperature and not chilled.

You might like a dessert wine. Something like a Sauternes, Beerenauslese, or Trockenbeerenauslese.
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:01 AM
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15. Heres a little list that may help you deciding
https://www.webzar.com/~debonne_ssl/cgi-bin/orderform14_new.html

I also prefer a sweet to semi sweet wine. Ohio makes some very
fine wines. You can order these if you want to try.
I suggest the River Rouge one of my favorite red wines.
For a white wine I love the River Blanc. Hope this list will
help you in selecting wine next time.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 09:39 PM
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17. Heehee .. Try a Beaujolais Nouveau or a Riesling
Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 09:43 PM by Crisco
Welch's are made from Concord grapes. Good luck finding that.

the Beaujes (red) will be in around Thanksgiving day. Good rieslings (white) can be had year round.

In the meantime, you should try to find a nice BIG red cabernét. It's expensive as all hell, but Mayacamas cabernéts will make you understand what real wine is all about.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:06 PM
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20. Reisling or Gwuertzraminer
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WINEWOMAN7 Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:05 PM
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19. Prosecco
Try a prosecco, an Italian sparkling wine. It's processed naturally so doesn't give a headache like champagne. Extremely popular in Italy and getting well known here. It's one of my personal favorites. I own a wine distributorship so I've had the opportunity to taste alot.

Salute, Dian
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:10 PM
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21. Ice wine from BC's Okanagan?
Sa-weeet! And kinda pricey. But great dessert wine.
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BamaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 12:26 AM
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22. Moscato (i forget how to spell it)
Is a nice white Italian dessert wine.
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Baja Margie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 12:56 AM
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23. Blanc de Blanc
It's so good, & I'm not a drinker. It tastes like white grape juice. Man o manochevitz is a little too sweet for me, however we do break a bottle out every Christmas, toast to Sophie Hoosenstein and get pie eyed.
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:05 AM
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24. northwest, you from the Northwest?
there's a good wine from a winery near here called Niagara that tastes like Welch's Grape Juice...at least to me, but it is popular and inexpensive!...I've gone on the vineyard tour the day after Thanksgiving with my friends (some I only see on that weekend) for over a decade now....I'm looking forward to doing it this year but thgat's all I can tell you at this time...

ps Niagara is the name of the grapes so if you see that name you might want to check it out!
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:36 AM
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26. I suppose not....
I'd be willing to send you a bottle if you would have replied!
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:11 AM
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25. No chilled red...yuck. Williams Hill Cabernet Sauvignon 2001
eom
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 01:48 AM
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27. Try training your taste buds to enjoy better wines
than those that taste like fruit juice.

Seriously. Start with the fruity, light wines that are chilled--for instance start with the blush zinfandels, then to a Pinot Gris (a white), then to on slightly chilled Shiraz (a red), then eventually you will enjoy a good, red full-bodied pinot noir.

If you start with a room temp Pinot Noir right away, it will be offensive to your untrained palette.

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