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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:40 PM
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Can you put up with me about an issue? I just read this....
I'm furious at the homophobes yesterday. But, oh my God...20 percent of gay people apparently voted for Bush. This is so hard to deal with, friends. Thanks for listening to me.

This is from today's The Advocate News Digest.

In a stunning development from Tuesday's election, George W. Bush did not lose much support from gay Americans--despite his hard right turn during this election year, his vocal support for the antigay Federal Marriage Amendment, and Republicans' successful passage of anti-gay marriage ballot amendments in 11 states.

The president received between 21% and 23% of the GLBT vote, about same percentage he received in the 2000 election, according to data from CNN and The Washington Post. Challenger John Kerry received a slightly higher percentage of votes from gay Americans than Gore did four years ago, according to the numbers--77% versus the 70% that were cast for Gore in 2000. As in the previous race, about 4% of voters identified as GLBT. Kerry picked up more votes from those who voted for independent Ralph Nader in 2000.

"I think that the difference for many gay voters was the war on terrorism," said Patrick Guerriero, executive director of the gay political group Log Cabin Republicans. "They went to the ballot box and voted on broader issues." Guerriero said that a year and a half ago--before the Federal Marriage Amendment became a cultural lightning rod--he estimated that upwards of 40% of gay voters would have picked Bush.

The strongest support of the president from GLBT voters came from those living in the South and the rural Midwest. For example, in the Northeast, only about 8% of gay and lesbian voters picked Bush, while that figure soared to about 30% in the South.

For many gay rights groups, the data are proof that Bush senior political adviser Karl Rove's plan to energize antigay Christian voters with the president's vocal opposition to same-sex marriage worked. Republican strategists had long estimated that 4 million evangelical Christians did not vote in 2000. Perhaps coincidentally, the president's margin of victory in the popular vote was approximately 4 million votes.

On the other side of the aisle, gay and lesbian Kerry voters failed to energize their family and friends or to convince young people to support their cause. Indeed, the Kerry camp clearly failed to win over any significant number of gay and lesbian voters who had previously supported Bush.

For the overall electorate, same-sex marriage was evidently a defining issue. Moral values--heavily emphasized by the president--edged out terrorism and the economy as the top issue in many areas of the country. Three fourths of white voters who described themselves as born-again Christians or evangelicals supported Bush. Those white evangelicals--a crucial voting block for the president--represented about a fifth of all voters. Their top issue was moral values.

Kerry was the overwhelming favorite of black voters and had a big lead among Hispanics, though Bush improved his performance with that key group. Kerry had the lead among women, another core group of Democratic supporters.

Young voters supported Kerry over Bush by about 10 percentage points, but the expected surge in their participation this year was not evident. Just under 10% of voters were between ages 18 and 24, about the same share of the electorate as in 2000. But four years ago they were evenly split between Bush and Gore.

Besides in-person interviews Tuesday, this survey, conducted by the Associated Press, included 500 absentee or early voters interviewed by telephone during the past week. The margin of sampling error for the entire sample was plus or minus one percentage point.

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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:41 PM
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1. Jews for Hitler!!
:eyes:
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:44 PM
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4. Damn You! That's What I Was Thinking....
So I'll say it anyway: "Jews For Hitler"

-- Allen
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:45 PM
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7. Chickens for Col Saunders!
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:46 PM
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10. hahahaha
NSMA, that was the funniest frickin thing I've read all morning.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:42 PM
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2. bonk bonk bonk
*head smacking onto desk*

:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:43 PM
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3. African Americans for Strom Thurmond!
Jeeeeezus. Things are messed up.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:45 PM
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5. Greed knows no boundaries
so it doesn't suprise me.

Although my gay brother wants to leave the country.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:45 PM
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6. Damn!!
I've spent most of today dismayed at the women's vote. Then the 10 percent of AA vote that went for the chimp, now this. If you can't vote for your own self interest, then you are just ignorant. :evilgrin:
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:46 PM
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8. The NY Times had an article of prisoners voting
One (he was in for killing two of his friends) said he was voting for bush* because he concerned about law and order.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:46 PM
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9. just as many foolish fags
as there are rednecks.

i know many.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:47 PM
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11. It wasn't the war on terrorism..it was rich gay men and Pink Pistols
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 04:47 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
along with a handful of anti abortion gay males with mommy issues
bet my hat my ass and my overcoat on it
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:47 PM
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12. Chickens voting for Colonel Sanders, anyone?
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:59 PM
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13. Uncle Tom's Log Cabin Republicans
They're not gay. They're idiots who just happen to have sex with persons of their own gender.

Perhaps the most satisfying e-mail I've written in the past year was the one I shot off to Guerriero personally, officially disowning the whole traitorous mob: "You are NOT," I wrote, "family -- and you never will be."
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:09 PM
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14. Every time I meet a gay person I haven't met yet, I will ask them who they
voted for... If they voted for Bush, I will spit in their face. I want nothing to do with such traitors. They are FAR worse than Afro-Americans who voted for Bush (a much smaller percentage apparently). At least they weren't voting their rights away. I'm so fucking sad.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:32 PM
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15. Ignorance doesn't discriminate
It's sad to say, but even the gay community can be scared into thinking that the terrorists are burning down their cities if bush isn't at the helm.
As far as I'm concerned, any woman that voted for bush is just as bad. Any person that has children and voted for him is just as bad. Any person who makes under $200,000 and voted for him is just as bad. Actually I think anyone who voted for the asshole is just as bad.
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