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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:24 PM
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Kerry loses. My wife tells me she wants a divorce.
Two unrelated events. I recently moved, and she and our daughter were supposed to follow.

Long story short, we've been having issues for awhile, and a bad phone conversation a few nights ago turned ugly. Real ugly.

She's unwilling to move here, and said that she want a divorce. She's been miserable and unhappy for a long time, and with me gone, she doesn't feel depressed at all. She's actually happy, said she can't stand me.

This is the shittiest week of my life.

But life goes on. One day at a time.
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:26 PM
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1. Sorry to hear that! Hopefully the DU family
can help. There are lots of good listeners here.
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:27 PM
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2. I know, that's why I posted here.
I've really come to like this place and the people here.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:27 PM
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3. I'm sorry
:hug:

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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:27 PM
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4. I'm sorry this is happening to you
I hope that this suffering can lead you to joy.
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:29 PM
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8. Hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel right now...
unless the light is either a train or a semi.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:28 PM
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5. God, I'm sorry.
Someone posted a thread like this earlier in the day, but it was as a joke, to try and put this election business into perspective. But to have this really happen is truly unthinkable, along with everything else that's going on.

I am so sorry. :hug: Best wishes from me.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:28 PM
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6. The hits just keep on comin', don't they?
Sorry to hear about that, m'man.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:28 PM
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7. So sorry.
Divorces are painful. And it sounds like you're in a place you may not know well.
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:30 PM
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12. I don't know anyone, except a few folk I've met at work.
It's been raining since I moved here, we just bought a house that I will be paying on, and my daughter, who I miss terribly, is in Florida.

I'm drinking like a fish tonight.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:29 PM
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9. Sorry, Dude.
I can only hope for the best for you guys.

I hope that some way it all works out alright.
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:31 PM
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14. Thanks n/t
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stimbox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:29 PM
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10. Hang in there....
I feel your pain. My wife and I recently split too. And now the election. A double whammy. Oh well. Life goes on. It'll get better.
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:30 PM
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11. I'm really sorry
I hope we can offer some support. :hug:
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:31 PM
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17. You guys already are.
DU rocks!
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:31 PM
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13. I'm so sorry.....

....

Hugs,
Kim :hug:
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:31 PM
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15. How old is your daughter?
This must be very hard on all of you. :cry:
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:34 PM
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22. 12. We're best buddies...
I don't know how a custody fight would affect her.

I am more upset for her than for me. My folks divorced when I was a kid, and it still bugs me to this day.

Damn, damn, damn.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:31 PM
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16. hey bro
I posted last night husband wanted divorce as I'm too liberal.

Thought you were making fun of me with copycat post but see you are in pain.

Understand.. It's a REAL shitty week.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:39 PM
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27. Too liberal?
He doesn't deserve you.
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:33 PM
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18. And I thought my fight w/ my husband was bad.....
he laid it down that he's sick of the negativity and doesn't want to hear any more of it after today. He's giving me one day to get over the election, and then he wants to talk about other things besides "negative" news all the time. I asked him how can one put a positive spin on negative stuff that is happening? I guess he just doesn't want to hear it. I feel like we're moving in different directions. I can tell I'm going to be spending more time on DU now.

I'm sorry to hear your story - that is some shit to have deal with at the same time as the election (democracy) letdown.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:40 PM
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29. A friend is going through that to a certain extent
Her husband says she's overreaction. Luckily, we have friends who understand. :hug:
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jrthin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:33 PM
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19. So sorry. Know
that we're here to listen, offer a hug, and say that give this some time. Things may look different or better tomorrow. Hard to hear right now, but still I offer it.
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cmf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:33 PM
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20. Oh man, I'm sorry
It can only go up from here. Take care.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:33 PM
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21. Oh, dude...
BIG HUG

:grouphug:

Peace, and I am really sorry to hear that.

Where did you move to?
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:36 PM
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23. Metro East Illinois, just a bit across the river from St. Louis
Ironically, we moved here because we wanted to be closer to our families. But they're still a half days drive away.

I haven't told them anything, anyway. Still hoping against hope.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:57 PM
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40. Ah! Aren't you in mostly D territory?
Go out at some point and find some friendly Dems to commisserate with.... maybe that'll help, eh?
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:14 PM
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54. Hey are you in Belleville?
Sounds like you are in that general area. I went to high school there! And you went there from Florida?

(I just noticed your user name - I'm an ex-GOP'er too!)
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:36 PM
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24. I'm sorry.
Hang in there :hug:
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mckara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:37 PM
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25. Count Your Blessings and...
look at these events as the beginning of a new life. I found marriage to be greatly overrated. Call your wife and tell her to proceed as quickly as possible. Then keep pressing onward and never look back or feel regret!
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:39 PM
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28. LOL....
Thanks, I needed that.
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venus Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:38 PM
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26. Sorry my dear. n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:42 PM
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30. I'm so sorry
:hug:

Maybe you can meet up with some DUers close by? It's so hard being on your own...


Take care of yourself.
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:45 PM
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31. Thanks. That's a good idea.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:46 PM
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32. Wow
I'm speechless, x. But we're all here for you.

:grouphug:
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:46 PM
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34. Thanks, I appreciate it.
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PragMantisT Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:46 PM
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33. Wow man, sorry
Something like that seems to push everything to the back burner. Especially with a young one involved.

Good luck
Keep the faith
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:47 PM
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35. I am so sorry. You don't deserve this. Something wonderful just has
to happen for you soon. You are being given a new start. Make the most of it. We can make what we want out of these things half empty or half full. Think of this as an opportunity! I am trying to convince myself as well as you. Bless you .
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:50 PM
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38. And bless you for your kind words.
The only opportunity I am going to take advantage of tonight is that I can drink myself into oblivion, lol.

Sounds like you're dealing with something similar based on your post. I guess it will get better, it will just take awhile, I suppose.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:49 PM
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36. Actually, the two may have surprising similarities ....
and I'm not being glib. People are mourning the lose of the election, much as they do other major loses. There are similarities in how we deal with the death of a family member; the loss of a job; divorce; and other things with similar impact.

I'm sure that you have had some clues that things are not well between you and your wife for a period of time. Likely at least one of the two of you has entertained thoughts of separation for a while; thoughts of separation do not mean either of you had made any solid plans at all. Just part of the emotional divide.

It also creates a separation between the home environment you wanted to provide your daughter, and the new reality. This is remarkably hard. But there are options available to you that might make it better for both your daughter and you.

The first thing is that while you have a physical separation, and even an emotional one, you aren't divorced yet. You need to think about if there is any way to salvage your relationship. Generally, people should think of what first attracted them to their spouse/SO. If there is still a connection, then it can be worth patiently seeing if your wife may feel the same.

Other people find what first attracted them, now repulses them. Obviously, then things are beyond reconciliation. But people can still agree to place their children(s)' best interests first.

Many communities have "support groups" for men who are experiencing the same thing that you are. You may find this to be of value. Other people prefer talking to a therapist. Still others have their own informal support system. Whatever works for you, do it. But a word of advice: do not let emotions bottle up. Don't think that talking about problems is a sign of weakness. It's not -- it's a strength.

Men have lived with silly ideas of what being a tough guy is for too long in our society. Separation and divorce are extremely hard. That is more so when children are involved. Guilt and a sense of failing our children is very hard to deal with objectively on our own. So talk.

One last thing: guys tend to have feelings of "ending it" after a separation/divorce than any other time in life. Men who feel this should realize that it is a common experience to feel this way. But most guys find that feeling goes away relatively soon. Avoid drinking when you are depressed, and you decrease those feelings of hopelessness dramatically.

You will feel like shit for a while. But your life will get back on track.

I'll be talking with you, if you want.
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:54 PM
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39. Thank you very much.
I'm in no way "ending it". I am bummed out, but in no way suicidal.

When my work schedule allows it, I will look into a support group.

As far as the drinking advice goes, sorry, not tonight. I let the conversation with her go a couple of days thinking it might be rash words said at the height of anger.

They weren't, so tonight, I reserve the right to get loopy-ass shitfaced.

Thanks for the offer to talk.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:25 PM
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47. You are welcome.
Many years ago, when my first marriage ended, I had a period where I did a bit of drinking. Actually made me feel a little better. Myself and another friend in a similar position formed a men's group. Of course we didn't drink when the group met. But I remember a number of guys had a lot more trouble dealing with separations when they had drank.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:50 PM
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37. I'm so sorry. (nt)
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:58 PM
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41. I remember when you first started posting
You have such a unique screen name. I'm sorry this is happening. Try not to drink too much and drink lots of plain water if you do go blotto today! {{{Hugs}}}!
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:03 PM
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43. I gotta go to the laundromat before I do anything...
my damn washing machine broke in the move, and I haven't bought a new one yet. One more thing to add to the "shitty" category.

And I must be sober to do that. If I ended up with pink underwear to boot, it would jut be too much to bear, lol.


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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:19 PM
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55. Hey maybe you'll meet someone at the laundromat!
Maybe one of your "shitty" things will yield a new door or beginning.
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I7G0D Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:01 PM
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42. Just keep your chin up n/t
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:04 PM
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44. I'm so sorry
I always read your posts when I run across them. You sound like a really decent guy. Somehow, I can't help but think your wife will regret losing you if it comes to that. Please know you can always count on your friends here at DU. This place is a Godsend for all of us right now.
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:15 PM
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49. Thanks for your kind post
And this place is a godsend.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:04 PM
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45. So sorry x-g.
What a week, indeed. Things can only go up, right? :hug:
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democraticgator Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:07 PM
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46. Im sorry. It puts my shitty week into perspective a bit.
I found out monday that I didn't get my dream job on monday. My school's football team lost our biggest game of the season on saturday. And, of course dipshit got reelected.

My week sucked pretty bad, but yours is worse. My heart goes out to you. I hope you have some good people around to help you through this. If you don't, you know that all of us DUers will try.
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MrsMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 06:38 PM
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48. I'm so sorry
I just can't imagine what you're going through.

Your wife is the real loser, if you want my opinion - I remember when you started posting here, and how your screen name generated a few snarky posts from some of the more knee-jerking members. Your patience and graciousness even to those who were baiting you really made an impression on me. I'm confident that you'll be able to put those qualities to use during this trying time.

Hey, and if you're ever back in MN, give us a shout!
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:53 PM
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50. {{HUGS}} - Sorry!
Man, you had a rough day. Hope things get better soon!
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Nightowl_2004 Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:54 PM
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51. Sorry man, stick with it.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:57 PM
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52. God, I'm so sorry.
You have been an invaluable addition to this board, IMO. I'm very sad your
personal life has hit the rocks in this painful week. :hug:
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:58 PM
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53. Thanks.
Very much.
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