Clinton, Clark, Kerry or Edwards in 08? Who do you like?

I like Clark but unless we are still at war I doubt he will have a chance. Perhaps as VP?

My order:

1. Wesley Clark

2. John Edwards

3. John Kerry (I actually like him a little better than Edwards but think Edwards would be a better candidate.

4. Hilary Clinton: Sorry, I think she will inspire the Republican base beyond belief.

but of those four, I still like Kerry the most, I've really loved what Ive learned about him over time, and I think it's a damn shame he cant be the 44th president of the United States.

I want Kerry to run again . I thought he was a great candidate .

I am not a fan of Hillary .

I would not mind seeing Clark and Edwards - not sure if Edwards will give it another go .

I really do like and admire Kerry, I even after I got rejected at applying at Dick Durbin's office for an internship because I am a high school student asked my teacher to put me in for Kerry who I think examplifes what I most admire. He's not perfect but he despite losing to me anyhow was th best candidiate of my life, yes even better than Clinton, I really mean it.

He gave us Democrats needed energy . It was destined for him to be the 44th President . Yes , I truly think it was . I did not know much about Kerry before this Presidential Election . But his story is one to really know about . When Kerry talked about AMERICA , I felt like I was a a part of his America . When Bush talks about America , I do not feel included .

I think Kerry got better and better as the campaign went along - I think he did damn good . The Commonwealth of Massachusetts sure is lucky to have Senator Kennedy and Senator Kerry represent them in the US Senate . I envy that - especially now that my state will be represented by two rethugs . Kerry truly inspired me to go continue my studies toward my Political Science degree . I am serious . I feel like writing a letter , letting them know that they inspire all of us to keep on fighting for what is right for all of America ! I cried when I heard that he was conceding . I could not bare turning on my TV to watch his concession speech because I was heartbroken , distraught , weak , sad , mad . I thought about all those people I helped register to vote , all the signs spent made , signs passed out , watching rallies on CSPAN , the energy from the Democratic National Convention . I flew back home to the US from Germany because I really wanted Kerry to win . I wanted to vote in person . I voted in person . I stood in line . Proudly . I voted for Kerry and I am proud . Damn it I am proud . I am Proud and Mad Democrat ready to fight damn it !

Today I am still in shock and mad , I am gonna be this way for 4 years . I am going to join my local Democratic party - this party needs some new blood . I don't care , I am not throwing away my Kerry / Edwards signs , stickers , buttons , bumperstickers . We had a good year . I am gonna be mad for 4 years but I am more pumped to FIGHT .

I was so proud to have him as my candidate. He looked and spoke in a presidential manner, and had a plan to take this country back and to solve the mess left behind by George Bush*. I love Clinton, as well; he inspires me and gives me confidence and courage. But you're right about Kerry. I honestly believe that he was the right man in the right place at the right time, to paraphrase one of Bush*'s talking points. He was an inspiration for all of us, at a very low point in our country's history. And I thought that John Edwards was the perfect compliment for him. I was so proud of our ticket. I am still shellshocked and heartbroken that he failed to carry the day, but I am waiting until they count the last vote.;(

If you can intern for Kerry?! That would be awesome!:D

i love Kerry like no other. i love many others, but with Kerry it's special. but i don't think he will run again. if he did i wouldn't have much choice but to back him. that's how much i love the guy. i am glad he is staying in public since he is senator and i will get to see him.

if I knew what I knew now. He is a special guy, one of the greatest men along with RFK and Debs the best president we never had. It was never ever anyone but Bush for me, it was a support of John Kerry. I hope he does run again but I too am doubtful. I really would be delighted to work with him. Perhaps Kerry can become like Ted Kennedy, never president but a great senator, and maybe someday there will be a Kerry building ala the Dirksen building.

he had such a masterful command of the issues. If it wasn't for vote stealing in FL and OH and the 10 million 'moral values' voters, it would have been a done deal.

He positively looked presidential and had such command of the issues. I started out ABB, but, after the first time I heard Kerry speak, in front of the VFW, on C-Span, he thoroughly had me convinced that he could lead and be trusted. The debates just solidified the deal. I have no idea what happened, since the angry monkey didn't come close to touching him, even when he tried hard-er.:eyes:

I love her, but so many people can't stand her. She's such a polarizing figure, and that would just be a disaster.

Edwards would be cool, but now that he's out of the Senate, he's going to have even less legislative experience. Plus, we'll hear "He couldn't even carry his own state" over and over and over. But he gets extra points because I really love looking at him and listening to him.

I really don't know that much about Clark. He sounds good, but dems weren't behind him in the primaries. Could have been because he came in kind of late to the game.

Kerry. Ah, Kerry. I really learned to like him over the past few months. Not just as a candidate, but him. He's such a better, stronger person than Bush, it's just a damned shame. But he won't come back. This isn't 1968, unfortunately.

I don't know? Do you think folks would reconsider Dean? Governors seem to do an awful lot better than Senators. More direct legislative control, less of a paper trail.

She is my senator, and I think she's the best, but you're right that she polarizes people. Most everybody I know loves her, but I live in New York. My mother goes off on any Clinton that she sees on TV, but she's probably not a good example.:shrug:

I like Clark, and Edwards, but hoped for them for Defense or VP. This is Clark's area of brilliant expertise and my friend, who was just elected to state congress, thought Edwards would be the perfect VP appointment, even before we had a candidate, since he could be a "president in training," and learn on the job. Edwards is bright and charismatic, and I thought that this was perfect. I'd love to see Kerry again, since I truly came to admire him, But I fear that, like Dick Gephardt, he gave this one everything and this is it. I have no idea about Dr. Dean, but I suspect that the same is true for him. I would vote for any of these people, tomorrow, but I think that we'll have to wait for Barak Obama, and his like, who will suddenly emerge in 2008.:shrug:

and we are assured that every vote counts.

And yes I will be a broken record on every single one of these sort of posts about the '08 election.

We have lots and lots of fantastic, excellent potential candidates -- as was demonstrated by the Democratic primaries. That isn't the problem -- the problem is GETTING THE VOTE COUNTED AND AVOIDING ANOTHER ELECTION THAT WILL BE STOLEN.

First things first.

It ought to be our number one priority - nothing is more important than to expose what happened (again) - and to fix it for the future.
I am utterly disillusioned, will never vote again if this does not happen.

...to make that decision, because as soon as the candidate is a known, the GOP will attack full force.

and as his VP Senator Mary Landrieu (La) Southerners, intelligent, articulate, attractive. very personable.

you're right, we should keep it to ourselves, why give the GOP any more ammunition.

But of your choices, the only choice for me is Edwards.

But if we can't get Kerry-Edwards elected, who were much more establishment and mainstream, then I despair for Kucinich. I'd vote for Edwards tomorrow, but who would join us? We'd have to make a better case than Kerry had, which, as far as I could see, was unassailable!:shrug:

C-SPAN was doing it's totally cool thing of following the candidate post-speech while he talked to voters. Up close and personal retail politics at its best. At any rate, someone whispered a question into Clark's ear and he looked up, got that smile and said something very much like "Oh, If they say that we'll just kick the shit out of them." Now a lot of people talk big but this guy kicked the shit out of the nastiest dictator in Europe.

I want somebody like Harry Truman who will "give 'em Hell" or Wesley Clark who will "kick the shit out of them."

Remember, Clark won the Oklahoma primary with all those conservative Democrats with a f'ing anti war platform. This guy is tough and he got a lot better at the campaign patter as time went on. He was one of the most steadfast Kerry supporters on the odious cable news outlets.

I LIKE CLARK in 2004


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And with Bush in for another 4 years, I wouldn't be worried about still being at war. We will be.

Wesley Clark just didn't hack it as a candidate. I don't see him doing better the second time around, and I wasn't inspired into believing he could be a great President.

Edwards was WAAAAAY too nice. I couldn't stand to watch another one of our guys get in there and lose gracefully.

Kerry is the best choice of these, but still not great. Demonized across the country, and I think he ran an inconsistent campaign and did what he said he wouldn't, which is throw in the towel before the votes were counted.

Hilary would likely do more harm than good as THE candidate. I do think that she could be useful in the primary race as a foil.

We need to look at Governors or other figures outside of Washington, who don't have to make the kinds of compromises senators make, and also so that we aren't losing even more seats. If they weren't going to win their seat anyways, then how would they win the White House?

He wouldn't be the first to emerge from a political graveyard. He's eloquent as hell and has all the passion that was lacking when he ran. He ain't afraid of nuthin' anymore, which is the way a candidate SHOULD talk, he's from the South, there are no scandals, and he's smart as shit.

He's changed since he lost - for the better. I was ho-hum about him before, but now he's da man.

eileen from OH

how about rendell or richardson?

i'm drunk sorry, pwi.

why not piss on fascist america one last time?

:evilgrin:

That would surely piss of the GOP .

Democratic Gov in a very red Tennessee, has very high approval ratings, proves he is moderate enough to work with both sides.

I know, I know, Dems on the left are tired of having to move to the middle all the time, but I still think that's the only way we're going to get the White House back.

By the way, of the four above, Clark and Edwards are probably a toss-up, but I would have them in basically same order of preference.

Mark Warner

Janet Napolitano

Ed Rendell

Bill Richardson

A long shot that might be talked about... Eliot Spitzer if not for number one than the number two position

Hillary, Hillary, Hillary... I love her. I'd go straight for her. I'd give a kidney if she needed it. But there is no way in hell she'd ever make a successful run for Prez. Dead right wingers would rise up from their graves to register to vote against her. Besides, she's going to be Governor of my great big blue state of New York!

The current governor of Virginia.

I like Wesley Clark as well. However, even though he's from Arkansas, he doesn't come across as a Southerner.

I think the RW base was pretty inspired this year, so I don't know what else they could do if Hillary ran.

I doubt Kerry will run again. He ran a pretty good campaign, but he is 60 years old now, and I don't know if he'll have the energy to run a national campaign in 2007 & 2008 if he runs for re-election to the Senate in 2006 (I think he's up in '06)

I think Easley of NC has a chance - a Democrat that won in a landslide in a state that Bush carried by over 10%. However, he may be a bit too conservative for our base.

After 8 years of hard right politics, though, don't be surprised if the Republicans nominate somebody that is perceived as a moderate - McCain or Giuliani. If Hillary runs for us, that will still turn out the Fundie base for them, and both McCain & Rudy would get a lot more moderates than Bush did.

can continue to control the Government.

(even to the point where I changed my avatar today for him)

The usual "he's a Southern General" comments come first.

Next, Clark can win whatever states that Kerry won. I'll make that assumption. Those states, no matter what happens, will go to our candidate in 90% of all scenarios. I'd also bet that Clark would be able to come-off as "more conservative" than Kerry, even though he's pretty darn liberal. Given this, I'd bet that he brings back Iowa and New Mexico into our fold.

So that's the Gore states plus New Hampshire. 264EVs.
Add 6EVs from Clark's home state, Arkansas. 270EVs. Victory.
Victory without Florida or Ohio.

I like that he doesn't have a voting record to twist and contort.
I like that he has a bipartisan past, strangely; this can be touted to attract moderates.
I like that he fluently speaks four languages. The Spanish can come in veeeery handy if he wants to do a few impressive interviews on UniVision..
I like that he was "Supreme Allied Commander;" it sounds super-impressive to most voters, even if they couldn't describe what the job entails.
I like that he's handsome; it can't hurt either with female voters. (Sorry.. it's a reality that we have to look at honestly..)

He disappointed me in January and February. I was a Dean supporter who went back-and-forth between him and Clark, so I harbored hopes that he'd bust-out of the pack as an obvious "candidate who can beat the hell outta Bush." No such luck.
Still, though, I've watched him as a talking head on television in these past few months, and I must say that he's improved greatly. With three more years of paying attention and preparation, he'll be quite ready for the national stage.

I'd propose that we put him with Warner to follow the Clinton-Gore formula (two good-looking, "moderate," young Southerners). In fact, I'd bet good money that such a ticket would win after 4 more years of this b.s.

I am with the General

I think it's a bit early. A lot could happen in the next 2-3 years that would make or break a candidate.

I think that you have chosen the most likely. Whichever one gets the nomination has my vote.:-)

with Dean as the chair of the DNC.

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He's our finest senator, and I'm proud to call him MY senator.

I don't think he's interested in running -- but I do think his national stature will rise over the next four years.

definately have an edge with me if he ran again. Edwards is a good pick, I'd like to see what he'll be doing between now and then though.

Kerry was a better candidate than I expected him to be and I give him credit, but he never will be my first choice.

I agree with you about Hillary, I think she's smart enough about politics to not even consider, but we'll see.

A black man will be elected in 2008, and then eight years later a woman will be elected.

He's pissed because neither party will consider running African Americans or women for president.

Clark definetely. We need someone with some executive experience. He fits the bill in that way. I also like the fact that there is no voting record to spin. The southern governors of TN, NC, and VA also sound like an interesting choice. I suppose we'll learn more about these people as we approach 2008.

I really like Kerry, but I don't see him running again. I really think the nation has missed out on electing a great president. I hope he stays active in the party and vocal. The party shouldn't diss him the way it did to others that lost (Dukakis, Mondale, McGovern)...

I'm still trying to get over this election. I still think he conceded a little too early. He should have waited until all the votes were counted. Of course, there is also a possibility that there was some fraud, so I think we may find out he did better than we thought. I doubt it will be enough to change the results of the election though.

As for Hillary, she's eloquent and smart, but I see no reason why she'd make a good presidential candidate.

in 2000 or 2004. Too bad.. I think he would have been a better choice than Lieberman, and would havy given Edwards a run for his money, er, that is, if Graham hadn't run out of his or started campaigning earlier.