For all the people who want to move out of America now....WHY?

Why?

Because you're angry? Because you're scared? Scared of what? George Bush makes you scared? The chimp makes you shiver?

Stay.

If you're in a heavy red state, move from there to a battleground state.

Stay and fight for your country. The future of America is democratic. The politics of fear and loathing are slowly dying off.

This was a last gasp for the forces of old world ignorance and prejudice.

Find a fresh start someplace else if you're tired of your surroundings, but don't let them drive you out of America.

Reject thier fear and anger.

I won't do it anymore, one way or another.

I have expatriot family members. U.S. citizens must pay taxes to the U.S. sorry. You may check this information with your own tax advisor. Moving to avoid paying U.S. taxes is a waste of time.

I don't recall the IRS reg that authorizes this, but when I first heard about it, I said, nawwww, are you really sure??? Hes' been there for 3 1/2 years, and it IS TRUE!

You only pay SS. That is why so many of the rich can claim residency somewhere else, and get huge tax loopholes.

which should generally eliminate any actual US tax liability,
snce taxes are likely to be as high or higher in another country.

So you can't avoid paying taxes altogether, but you should be able
to pay them to the country you are living in instead of the US.

I am not a tax advisor, nor do I play one on TV....

I'm sick of battleground states, and arguing with people who simply won't think for themselves. I've been fighting for way to many years, and I'm tired. For a very long time, when I heard about the violence in Israel, or Pakistan, or many of the other places I've heard about, I kept asking WHY do they stay? I sure wouldn't! Well, I don't expect fighting in the streets here, but I can't deal with the arrogance of the Pubs anymore, and it's gotten worse!

to those who want to leave.

Like the Jews of Germany, who couldn't believe such a thing could happen and that they were good Germans, we could end up being "jailed" in our own country, persecuted for being democrats/libruls/non-fundamentalist.

Because with the second stealing of this election, America is now
a totalitarian state - read dictatorship, with no checks and balances to stop the fruitcake in the WH from declaring war, conscripting all or any, sending people to Guantanamo or (read FEMA) one of the three (if not more) "detention" camps already built somewhere in the US boonies to hold "objectors".

Worn an anti-bush t-shirt to one of his rallies lately?

but in another sense, I see no harm in leaving. My only sadness would be for my fellow DU:ers and the fact that I'd be leaving them to the wolves which are now closing in.

However, I have a responsibility to myself. I only have X number of days before I'm cold in my coffin, and I want to live my life in the best way I know how. And if that means fighting for my fellow men, then that would bring me the most happiness.

But if it's pointless, and our country is about to be hijacked by lunatics, then maybe it is better to leave. For a while. For 4 years. Think of the reasons the Pilgrims came here.

I'm sure their relatives and loved ones pleaded with them at the dock, "Please don't leave us". There's always a price to pay for leaving. But if the price becomes too high, then maybe it is time to leave.

the divisions in this country. Eventually, all hell will break loose and we aren't the ones with the weapons on our side.

Shades of Nazi Germany, I don't think I want to chance it.

Know I'm not wanted :)

The evangelicals don't want my race-mixin, gay-supportin', pot smokin', church desertin', rational type around her. So be it. Honestly, I hope all Liberals move to Canada. That would mean the smartest, brightest stars of America vote with their feet and do like the Jews did to Germany in the 30's - essentially stripped it of all its great minds.

but a friend sent it to me and I thought it was funny. Sounds like the Onion, not sure. :)

> CANADA REPORTS HUGE JUMP IN IMMIGRATION
>Over 55,000,000 Requests for Citizenship Since Tuesday Night
>
>Canadian immigration officials have reported a huge increase in the
number
>of requests for Canadian citizenship in the past twenty-four hours,
with
>over fifty-five million such inquiries pouring in since late Tuesday
night.
>
>Of those fifty-five million requests, well over 99.99% of them came
from
>U.S. citizens, the lion's share residing in such states as New York,
>California, Massachusetts, Oregon, Washington, Pennsylvania, New
Jersey,
>Vermont, Maine, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, and the
>District of Columbia.
>
>Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Pierre Pettigrew said that he was
>"flabbergasted" by the fifty-five-million-plus requests for Canadian
>citizenship, adding that it was difficult to pinpoint the precise
reasons
>for the staggering increase.
>
> "My only theory is that after many years of exposure in the U.S.,
hockey
>is finally starting to catch on," Mr. Pettigrew said.
>
>He cautioned, however, that it is impossible to know exactly what is
>sparking the sudden interest in America's frozen neighbor to the
north:
>"People answering our immigration hotline say that it is hard to
understand
>many of the American callers because they are sobbing uncontrollably."
>
>In other news, President Bush used his acceptance speech Wednesday to
reach
>out to supporters of Sen. John Kerry, telling them, "You can run, but
you
>can't hide."
>
> Meanwhile, in his first statement since being voted out of office
Tuesday
>night, Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle said, "Do you want fries
with
>that?"
>
>Elsewhere, experts said that exit polls may have falsely predicted a
Kerry
>victory because Kerry voters exited while Bush voters stayed behind
and
>voted again."
>

if you throw in the towel and turn the most powerful country in the world over to the ideologues.

It's my home.
If it goes down, I will go down with it.