What is the DUMBEST repuke talking point you've had repeated to you?

By friend or (god/goddess/allah/buddha/satan/shiva/non-existent-deity forbid) family. This also includes the bullshit spewn out by rush, o'reilly, hannity, ann da man, etc.

For me, it's when my ex-stepfather triumphantly repeated some B.S. he heard on rush about how we don't need to worry about global warming, because if we dump a few million tons of iron filings in the ocean the resulting increase in algae will soak up all the CO2. I asked him about what proof he had that it would actually work, and he didn't have anything. I then asked him, assuming it actually works, what about the impact all that oxygen-consuming algae would have on the ocean, and the millions and millions of people who depend on it to survive. He just kinda stared at me, then grumbled 'Well it still sounds like a good idea' and walked off in a fuss. It was the last time I had to be subjected to any of that crap by a family member.

On edit: I should have been more specific. This is meant mainly for kooky/whacked out RW ideas. Blatant fallacies such as 'We're safer' or 'Saddam had WMD's are not exactly what i'm looking for, but post away if you want to. :D

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Everytime a RR (Religious-Right-influenced) relative or friend talks about how getting rid of Hussein made us safer.

That one drives me crazy.

:evilgrin:

AAAaaarghghghghg... awful on so many levels I can't stand it.

No he's not!

he just knew too much and had difficulty only talking about what should be public knowledge.

Who could possibly think that? DAMN . . .

I was just stunned to read it, then started laughing realizing it was serious.

Them: Homosexuality is against nature.

Us: The natural occurrence of homosexuality has been documented in more than 550 species of animals, some to the exclusion of heterosexual coupling even when opposite-sex partners are in abundance.

Them: Well... PEOPLE AREN'T ANIMALS!

THEY'RE SOYLENT GREEN!

:shrug:

:)

Futuristic movie from around 1970, the world is overpopulated and undernourished. The government has been making a series of different colored meal crackers out of progressively more and more abundant stuff - soy, for instance. By the time they get to the Green color it's necessary to "promote" people at early ages, due to lack of space and food. So the Soylent Green cakes turn out to be processed dead people. Charlton Heston, and btw Edward G. Robinson's last movie.

...I thought we were damned, dirty apes.

Whoa, I think I've seen too many Charlton Heston movies!

I read recently that homosexuals in populations actually benefit--and may be essential to the survival--that population, no matter the species. I can't remember where I read that, otherwise I'd give the reference. Well, anyway, I was disgusted when a Repuke once remarked that kids raised by gay couples would "grow up messed up." I started to say "how can you say that?" but before I could even finish, she yelled, "Hey, I'm entitled to my opinion!" Sheesh. I didn't say anything. What I should have said, in hindsight, since she wasn't willing to let me defend my position, was say, "Yeah, but yours is an uninformed opinion ."

About the whole "people aren't animals" thing: they're half right (much as I hate to admit it) and half wrong. Humans are technically animals. It's their ability to shape nature (building things) that separates them from other animals. So people are a special kind of animal. But to say that to a fundie, you'd think you were offering them the biggest insult anyone could give to any other person. Of course, there are plenty of good insults we do know for them. :evilgrin:

(like that) Say: No..You're entitled to a vote...only people that know what the hell they're talking about are entitled to an opinion.

"If something happens, John Kerry will just freeze!"

"President Bush will protect us, John Kerry won't"

What President Bush are they talking about? And what John Kerry are they talking about?

I heard this BS 3 days ago.

I told them that if there was a mass movement of stuff to Syria, our satellite recon would pick it up. I told them that I worked on the systems that were used to do this 20 years ago, and that it worked.

So either 1 of 2 things has happened. The systems that worked 20 years ago, no longer do, so we simply cannot track things like truck convoys, bunker construction, missle testing, and open air testing anymore.

Or if that's not true, somebody in the government is lying.

Soon people will say the democrats hid all the WMD's.

Bush is doing an excellent job on the economy considering 9/11, the Spanish people submitted to terrorism by electing Zapatero, Bush has a mandate, etc etc

Even the media was claiming it. What an utter crock.

I also saw a woman on the local news say, "I'm voting for Bush because he seems like a guy I could invite over for Sunday lunch."

There you have it, DU. We weren't voting for president; we were voting for a lunch buddy.

missing munitions at Al-QaaQaa.

Me: What lie did they tell?

Them: Kerry blame Bush for those missing munitions, and they were never there.

Me: Number 1, Kerry is not the so called liberal media. Furthermore, an embedded film crew from Minnesota has film of the munitions with the UN tags on it that show the stuff was clearly there after troops visited the area. We know from the UN inspectors that they tagged the stuff and had inventory lists of the material, so we know what was there. So why should the "liberal" media apologize for getting the story right?

Them: Well they hid all those WMD in the sand and sent them to Syria...

Me: Which did they do, hide them in the sand or send them to Syria, and how do you know that?

Them: Its obvious. We need to kill them all.

Meaning the Middle East of course. Every time I hear someone say they I want to puke on their shoes. Ignorant assholes.

He moved to Fayetteville, married a military brat, and is now a Rush-head.

He claims that on 9/12 we should have "leveled" Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Lebanon (?) Pakistan and Saudi Arabia

What gets me is that he had a good, Blue-State education and a degree in political science. But he's one of these self-pitying losers who agrees with Rush that the reason he hasn't gotten ahead in the world is "them" (FemiNazis, Affirmative Action, etc)

:puke:

:puke: as well

Really, Hans Blix? That always shuts them the fuck up.

"Gay marriage will destroy the sanctity of marriage" Tell me how 2 people getting married threatens your marriage, your ability to provide for your family. You usually have to guide them back to this question, because they have no answer, and will tend to go to a canned spiel I have no time or patience for.

"Saddam was evil and needed to be removed." How was that our job or business?

I just saw your edit. To me these are totally kooky/whacked out RW ideas. I can't understand how an alleged 59m people buy this shit.

:shrug:

I remember reading a quote "gay marriages don't threaten my marriage - the women trying to f*** my husband do."

as a repuke talking point, but driving home today, I found myself behind a motorcyclist dressed in black leather and on the back of his jacket was a large flag with the words "try burnin this one ASSHOLE!".

I thought to myself, "I'd LOVE to."

......with just that one asshole?

Personally, I wouldn't mind torching that whole Rolling Thunder bunch of assholes.

They're so dedicated to the MIA/POW Vietnam buddies, they made it a goddamn point to "endorse" a goddamn DESERTER.

How fucked up is that?

Yeah, give me some gasoline and a Bic, and I'll gladly give new meaning to the term "flaming asshole."

with Canada plates (in California) -

Osama
Voted
Kerry

And they said it to ME! :sob:

each with a crew of 7, somehow managed to provide 250 witnesses to John Kerry being a coward.

God bless our troops -- but that's not why Bush sent them over. "Political capital" anyone?

Basically, it was like this: Clinton. Bin Laden. Offered three times.

I stoppped talking to my "friends" who keep trying to blame Clinton. They're too far gone.

The people who make this argument have absolutely no regard for the UN. They consider it an infringement on our sovereiginty and badmouth the UN whenever it's mentioned -- except when they cite the UN as justification for war in Iraq (despite the fact that preventive war violates the UN charter.

stupid

fucking

hypocrites

You can't have it both ways Freepscum. If he's the most liberal senator, then he would have to be a purist ideologue, not someone who changes his views to whatever is popular.

That same label even got over here (Europe). One of my best friends told me he had heard Kerry kept changing his positions. I was shocked, but I totally changed his mind after only 30 seconds of persuasion.

(whacks forehead) why didn't I think of that? (another whack)

I heard one Freeper say to another on the phone. I almost ripped the phone out of his hand with my screaming! What an ass hole!

lives up there anyway! LOL

I do.

but whenever Kerry would come up, she would say, "he's the most liberal member of the senate, even worse than Ted Kennedy. Oh and that poor girl, when he (Kennedy) left her to die in the water."

EVERY TIME, as if I missed it the last 3000 times!

She makes me freakin insane. Hence why I haevn't talked to her much since Tuesday.

It's getting me angry now, versus just annoyed before. :grr:

there was this one closet freep girl i was dating (i told you all about her a few weeks ago, and we've since gone our separate ways)...and on our last date she tells me she actually rented F/911, she said, "because i want to see it to understand what people are saying"

so i'm pretty excited, thinking i have a chance to get her to change teams (she's a borderline freep with some liberal positions, but she's pro-business, pro-military, anti-reg, etc.)

so we start watching, and she's remaining pretty interested throughout the movie...twice she just started yelling at the TV like Michael Moore was going to answer her back--Once when he showed the soldiers' casual attitude toward the war (let the motherfucker burn!!), and she starts screaming stuff like "what do i care what they think? these soldiers are mindless robots...paid to fight and not think!!"
I swear my jaw hit the floor, since this is a girl with brothers in the USAF.

but the kicker was when the movie was talking about the selling out to the saudi connections, and i swear, she gets up and screams "What's the big deal?? So bush is not allowed to have ANY business connections at all??? EVERY president had business deals!! CLINTON had business deals!! This is BS!!!" said the girl for whom national security and antiterror were her number one topics.

the sad part was this was no ignorant country bumpkin...young (mid 20s) graduated with honors from Harvard, and certainly didn't grow up rich (her parents came over from eastern europe with nothing and became farmers in the midwest)...she's easily the smartest woman i ever dated (knows 3 languages) but woefully misguided...tragic

I've been fortunate to come from a liberal family, and other than my quasi-freeper ex-stepfather, I haven't had any of that crap to deal with at home. It's especially a relief after reading so many horror stories of familial strife all due to political differences. Damn, the chimp has really fucked things up.

(this is in a game chat BTW)

Them: what do we have freedom for? freedom to be barbarians...

Me: would you rather be in jail?

Them: I'd rather live in a dictatorship

Me: so i guess you admire Hitler then?

Them: yes..Hitlers plan was perfect

Me: OK i get it..your a racist
(he was talking BS about Jews controlling the media b4)

Them: no I'm not a racist..

Me: oh sorry..bigot then

/Scream

i cut him off right then and their.

Before that he told me he was Anti-democrat and Refront?(i guess)said it stood for Reformed Party... (and was against anybodies rights if they are not white male basically)

that sort of talk makes me want to puke.

the other sort of talk I've heard of before is

Me: maybe Ewoks are relatives to wookies from Evolution!

Them: i don't believe in Evolution

Me: probably only for humans then i guess,i mean you can't excuse the three eyed fish.


/sigh

My co-worker was/is convinced of this and repeated it to more than one person. She had to have gotten it in a stupid email. Unbelievable to you and me, but not to her. Scary.....

Probably the stupidest thing I've heard him say-- it was actually in one of his books-- was that Native Americans actually BENEFITTED from the Europeans, because before we came over they were all miserable and cold and starving to death.

O_o Um, WHO saved early European settlements from starvation by teaching them to plant corn? And were they all happy and warm and well fed after we put them on little reservations? ...Yeah. I never managed to finish that book... it stopped being funny very quickly. Where the hell does this guy get these ideas?!

Oh right. His big fat ass.

He also claimed that there were more trees in America now than when Columbus first landed. Also that volcanoes spew most of the CO2 in the air.

I made a point about all the people who died in Iraq.

"So World War 2 was bad" because so many people died.

Yeah. Because Iraq and Nazi Germany are the same damn place, and we went under the same circumstances.

Fuck that. This was the same paragraph he wrote that "you are as dead to me as America is to you." Not really. America is dead to me, it's just hiding.

Told to me by a little woman who works four part-time jobs and has no benefits. Two of those jobs are through temp agencies. The other two with relatives - both good christian businessmen. One has been repeatedly sued for not paying his debts and the other has a business partner who recently pled guilty to wire fraud in a case involving an investment scam.

Same little woman told me that it was completely my fault that I am still unemployed. Apparently, I have a bad attitude and some sin in my life and God is punishing me. Has to be - God is messing with my money.

And she is worried for my soul because of my liberal beliefs.

MY REPLY: "It's BECAUSE I was in the military that I don't support Bush. For chrissake, while Kerry was getting shot at in Vietnam, Bush used his daddy's connections to leapfrog over hundreds of others to get into the Texas Air Guard, and he went AWOL from even that cushy job. Do you understand me? Bush deserted during a time of war! When last I heard, that was called 'treason.'"

BUSH-LOVER (after a stunned silence): "Well, if I was in a war, I'd still feel better with Bush than Kerry."

Stupid fucking people!!! :grr::nuke:

"Let him finish what he started."

He has squat.

I heard this from guy who told me he was voting Republican cuz Bush, um, supports firefighters... which was also pretty stupid.

Didn't rumsfailed say something to the same effect?

While I was sign waving with over one-hundred other Kerry-Edwards supporters, TWO, yes, ONLY TWO Bush people (both white older males) came to counter-protest. They were all alone on their corner, so me and this other girl decided to pay them a visit. When we approached, one of the men approached us and asked us "how do you like killing innocent babies?!?" And I answered back to him: "Heck! I don't know! Why don't you ask your dictator who's sending a lot of other families's babies off to Iraq?!?" Of course, he kept asking me why I support murdering babies. And then I kept talking about Iraq and how Bush has NO reason to continue sending our troops there. NEVER did he answer my questions or counter my arguments. Instead, he resorted to calling me "ignorant" and then he shouted "John Kerry is a gigalo!" I was thinking to myself "Ooookay...this guy isn't even WORTH arguing with. HE'S the one who's ignorant and stuck in the 1940's.

Might as well call him a 'poopy head' or something.

that in 'Nam they just gave away Purple Hearts to anybody that asked.
I wonder what draft-dodging chickenhawk propagandist told him that?

and that's the reason why I didn't waste my time with this guy. Funny, he's MUCH older than I was yet HE was the ignorant person, not me. I thought you GAIN wisdom when you grow older, not LOSE it!

You know, with Iraq and all.

don't answer at all or change the subject. Like when you questions them about values and you say how moral is it to be killing innocent Iraqis. Or you ask them how can Liar Bush be your morals guy or the compassionate conservative? They clam up totally or change the subject or they get a smirky half-smile on their faces. THEY NEVER ANSWER.

Sixty-four years old and still paying on a condo and new car. Complains constantly about taxes and how she doesn't have any money.

Oh yeah, she told me that the good lord will take care of her. I might mention that we both work for a publicly funded agency. That means taxes pay our wages.

I wonder how she plans to finance her retirement if the good lord is busy somewhere else?

This was during the DNC.This freeper on a message board was spouting off shit, claiming that Barack Obama was a "token black" and actually claimed that the dems were racist and holding blacks down by all of our social programs, but the Republicans wanted blacks to succeed by teaching self-reliance?!? Of course later he critizes affirmative action because it gave " taking jobs from more deserving whites"
Another freeper said liberals were hypocrites because " we claim to be open-minded yet criticize Christians" WTF?? This guy also accused John Kerry of being the anti-christ.Oddly enough, he seemed to be obsessed with Nicle Kidman also.

they can be good, assuming you're spending on something that is worthwhile like education or the infrastructure of the nation and not on tax cuts for rich people. Also, you shouldn't spend in debt toooooooooooo much.

breakdown:

Spending can stimulate the economy if you target it properly, and it may be necessary to spend more than you take in, assuming it isn't very much, not for a prolonged time, and is repaid when the economy properly recovers.

Small deficits are perfectly fine assuming they're repaid in a reasonable amount of time and the debt isn't too big, but one the size we have now really will sink the US economy if something isn't done about it soon.

the lack of respect for the people of Iraq - especially the children - is absolutely sickening

"If we don't fight them over there, we will be fighting them here."

Like they are waiting for boatloads of Iraqis to land on our shores.

Or when Cheney said John Kerry had been President then there would still be a Soviet Union. Like it had nothing to do with the people behind the Iron Curtain who faced down tanks and organized strikes during martial law and shit or Gorbachev or just the inherent shittiness of Soviet-style communism.

just illustrates an unbelievable lack of understanding.

You can get a Bush person into a corner and that's their fall back. It sucks and it's stupid

Screw the man. Labeling him man three thousand times, doesn't make it so.

Can you believe that? Also, I was once told that the economy is always better under a Republican president. Which I, of course, failed to note under Reagan, Bush I, and our current poor excuse in the White House.

I could gnaw off my own arm from frustration.

:wtf:

Is he going to share????

That was in response to the fact that I voted for Kerry because Bush is the most dishonest president in history.

My response to the remark above, after my initial look of amazement, was, "What lie did he tell about Vietnam?"

the response:

"I'm not getting into THAT discussion again..."

Fuck all of the lemmings that are following Bush over the cliff.

Watched the towers burn from my parking lot. To see any of those assholes try and own 9/11 makes my blood boil.

so Bush must be doing a good job

Gee when did foreign terrorists last attack us BEFORE 9/11?

The "fight them there and not here" one is a very close second.

I was rendered speechless.

Why does that kid keep running into the wall instead of using the door? Has he a learning problem?

A little, but you gotta admire his consistency.

...because lying, trashing the environment and sending thousands to their deaths is honorable.

I've seen bumper stickers with this. Puh-leeze! Clearly, Bush wants to overturn Roe v. Wade, and he did NOTHING to help the women oppressed by the Taliban until it was convenient for him.

and this was on a UNION radio show, and the caller claims to have voted straight Dem except the top of the ticket, because of "mission accomplished" and all....

And Rush is always right, at least to an otherwise intelligent gay man I know. Whether Rush's overt homophobia is included in this, I don't know.

than 5 minutes without sneering and turning him off, or laughing hysterically and saying amounting to: 'What a bunch of fucking morons, I'm going to listen to this all the time and laugh my ass off'