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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 06:56 PM
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Anyone know anything about winter jackets?
I want to buy my partner a stylish winter jacket, but one that doesn't use down (because he's allergic to it). When I go into the stores, they show me all these rather pricey Gortex jackets that aren't much thicker than sweaters. Are they really warm enough for winter? Are there cheaper equivalents? Thanks.
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 06:57 PM
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1. Good question - I've been
coat shopping too. Trying to find something warm like down, but not so thick that it makes you look like the pillsbury dough boy - i'm puffy enough without any help... lol
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Kira Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 06:58 PM
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2. go to landsend.com
They have the best jackets. Also the owner published a piece telling people in Wisconsin to not vote for * a couple weeks before the election.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 06:59 PM
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3. you are looking at two different things
down provides wrmth, GoreTex is a water reppelant breathable fabric. It does not provide warmth. Are you looking for a michelin-man type jacket, ot a lyering pirce? Are you looking for something for outdoors athletic type stuff? something for the office/city? something sporty or dressy? does it have to be waterproof? windproof? what's your budget?

tell me more, tell me more...
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 07:13 PM
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5. It's for New England weather
My partner is slim and gets really cold. The main outdoor winter sport for him is long walks, but it would be nice if the jacket was also water resistant! Thanks.
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 07:17 PM
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6. I live in new England and when walking-----
I wear light weight,very warm ski underwear----a wool sweater and a light weight Gore-tex jacket. I like to layer.

When out and about in my car anything will do----I'm rarely cold.
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gbwarming Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:37 PM
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26. Amazingly better than the old cotton waffled long johns
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 09:38 PM by gbwarming
This is a really good idea for someone who tends to be cold outdoors. The fabrics are thin, warm and keep you dry. Same with socks. Expensive, but awesome.

like these:
http://www.rei.com/online/store/CategoryDisplay?categoryId=4501408&storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&langId=-1&seq=11&sort=1&vcat=REI_SSHP_MENS_CLOTHING_TOC
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:50 PM
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27. Thanks for that link---I have some old Damart's that I still use---
but need some new stuff.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 07:19 PM
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8. el dupe.
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 07:20 PM by northzax
duplicate. duplicate...
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 07:20 PM
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9. hmm. well, as I see it
you have two options. First, get a really nice topcoat, wool-cashmere blend, made well so it will stand up to the weater, and looks good in the city.
second, get something along the lines of a lined mountain jacket (I reccomed Marmot or North Face, both of which I use) those will provide better water resisstance and sportyness, and can be quite slim. get the lined ones, over a medium sweater on a walk, they can handle down to about 15 degrees with no problem. go to Campmor.com.
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undercover_brother Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 07:03 PM
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4. technical fabrics from outdoor shops
There are lots of great technical fabrics which offer excellent warmth while also disipating sweat. These fabrics are usually fairly thin. My favorite is Windstopper by GoreTex. It breathes but at the same time blocks wind. This allows for a very thin material which is warm down to about 35 degrees or so when not exercising. Below that temp I add the rainproof shell as a second layer. This keeps me toasty.

These fabrics are expensive, but they many times come with lifetime warranties against stiches tearing or fabric wearing out. The rainproof shell is also a great summertime rain jacket.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 07:17 PM
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7. If Thinsolite is still around check it out
Could be spelled Thinsulite. Look in stores that handle ski clothes.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 07:23 PM
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10. Check out REI
http://www.rei.com/

I've found that their brand is as good as the designer labels, and often at a better price. They have comparison charts to give you an idea of what you're getting for your money.

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:58 PM
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17. Ditto, although I have a North Face Outlet close by too....
But, out west, layering is the key, especially for active sports where you can overheat and need to peel something off... Gortex is ideal for that with a thinsulate layer for insulation, maybe a wool sweater and wicking thermal underwear, if it is really cold. Caution about down, though: Down, for someone very lean and cold nature sounds like a perfect solution, but you never want to get caught in a situation where it is going to get really wet--whether in coats or sleeping bags, wet down can be a killer--literally. So, if your friend does back bowl skiing or cross country skis/snowshoes in the winter, where he could get caught in a storm, you might think twice about down.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 07:25 PM
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11. What kind of jacket?
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 07:26 PM by Bleachers7
Gortex\down type jackets are not "stylish." Do you want something sold at Brooks Brothers or the Ski Haus?

EDIT: Someone above suggested REI. That's an outdoors store. Is that the style you are looking for?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:05 PM
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19. Good point: Timberline has more "stylish" leather and rugged, yet
good looking coats and jackets. But, they tend to go more with natural fabrics and you'll miss lots of the technical advantages (low weight/insulation ratio, high level of water and stain resistance/waterproofing while letting your body release perspiration away from you body to prevent dampness & chilling (i.e., breathability and wicking), design features (like underarm zippers which allow you to cool off without necessarily peeling a layer and all kinds of handy hidden hoods, pockets, etc. So, if your guy is going to be physically active, Goretex REI or North Face, Marmot or other technical gear is a much better choice and also very long lasting with minimal need for care.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:11 PM
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22. Also want to put a pitch in for Polartec fleece as an insulating layer:
Manufactured by Malden Mills--remember the owner keeping his staff on the payroll even after a massive fire in the mid-90's closed the buisiness for months?

They're the good guys and polartec fleece is a very good product...
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 07:31 PM
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12. fleece on the inside should be warm
and something water/wind proof on the outside should be perfect for winter on a budget


GoreTex is a brand name so it's expensive. There are plenty of other materials that will work fine to keep out the wind and water
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SouthPasadenaDem Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 07:36 PM
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13. Nothing (and I really mean nothing)
beats a an old-fashioned leather bomber-style jacket for warmth in cold weather. They are usually available in suede (which you wouldn't want to wear in rainy weather) and in brown leather, in addition to the ordinary black ones. Get one that's nicely lined. The other thing that's really good about these is that they never ever go out of style and, properly cared for, one will last twenty or twenty five years. I swear by one of these.

If you get a suede one, also buy a couple of nice scarves for him to wear around the collar - not for fashion's sake, but to protect the collar from "ring around the collar" - saves money on dry cleaning.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:17 PM
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14. I recommend Carhartt coats. Made in the USA, and the quality is unbeatable
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:22 PM
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15. Columbia Jackets or Parkas (3 in 1 or 4 in 1)
They are warm and stylish.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:23 PM
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16. As someone who hates the cold
I've found that coats with a polyester fill are the warmest, but they tend to not be very stylish. I've found that Gortex and Thinsulate just don't cut it.

If the bulk of polyester fill (which has the same "bubble" look of a down coat) is too unstylish for you, I recommend going with leather. You might also want to consider buying some silk thermal underwear for your partner. Very warm, and when you give your partner a hug, you'll get your money's worth.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 08:59 PM
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18. I like my Northface jacket
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 09:00 PM by WindRavenX
It's light, but it keeps my very very warm.
The downside is that it isn't windproof.
It's kept me alive in Boston winters...so that's my recommendation.
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Sleepysage Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:06 PM
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20. Stand back, Wisconsinite on duty...
Gore-tex is just waterproofing, and besides blocking the wind, doesn't do anything for warmth. Anything with down is especially warm, but tends to be on the "fluffy" side. I like the coats with removable fleece liners for more versatility. You can't go wrong with coats by Columbia, Patagonia, or L.L.Bean. Not to speak ill of Land's End, btw; I've just never bought anything from them.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:09 PM
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21. Thank you! You've been a great help! /eom
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:14 PM
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23. This is the one i have. $99
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:16 PM
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24. Goretex is the outer fabric
If the insulation is 'Thinsulate', yes, it will be wonderfully warm without bulk.
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 09:17 PM
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25. I own an L.L. Bean Thinsulate winter jacket
Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 09:20 PM by DancingBear
Rated to -30 degrees.

Not bulky at all - and it is warm! Got me through the worst of New Hampshire winters easily.

None too stylish (although that may have changed over time) and pretty pricey - mine was $200 when I bought it 12 years ago!!!
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