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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:50 PM
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Who else is sick of Christmas already?
Actually, I started hating Christmas after my Grandparents died 10 years ago. :-(
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:53 PM
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1. I so dread this Christmas
At least I will see the love of my life four days later, so I have that to look forward to. But the holiday itself - bah. :(
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:54 PM
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2. me....
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 10:54 PM by mike_c
I usually spend the weeks on either side of christmas camped out in the desert to avoid all the hoohaw, but this year I'm stuck in consumer land.
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:55 PM
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5. Christmas?
What is that Christmas you speak of?
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Lizzie Borden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:54 PM
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3. I hate it too.
And have ever since my family died.
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baby_bear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:54 PM
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4. It means nothing to me
I loved it as a child. I couldn't wait to wake up and dig into my stocking, which my mother had stuffed with wonderful goodies. My grandmother, my mother, my sister and I were always together and just loved it. My father would stumble in occasionally but he was irrelevant.

My parents divorced, my grandmother died, my sister and I haven't seen each other in 12 years, and my mother is in such bad shape from osteoporosis and arthritis that she doesn't want any company at Christmas this year.

It's sad, and I wish I didn't have to think about it. It reminds me that getting old sucks.

s_m

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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:56 PM
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6. Yo! n/t
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Dying Eagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:56 PM
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7. If it were not for my kids
I would not have Christmas at all. This year more then any other. No offense intended, but any Religious holidays suck now!!!!
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:58 PM
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10. Christmas
is only a religious holiday because early Christians hijacked the winter solstice celebration to do a birth of Jesus celebration.

I am a Christian and I don't even celebrate the religious aspects of it! (Oooo, am I in trouble?) It is totally secular in this house.

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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:12 PM
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24. go light with the kids
just do christmas light, cover the kids, but not too much, tell them it is an act of patriotism not to spend too much money.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:56 PM
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8. I was sick of it when Walmart turned the toy dept. into Toyland...
... on Oct. 15

It is all about soulless consumerism now.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:03 PM
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17. same here!
I was appalled that Xmas came WAY TOO EARLY this year! I mean, really, decorations up BEFORE Halloween?! WTF? It looks like it will soon be that Xmas decorations will soon be up year round! Too bad that the fake niceness that comes out that day doesn't come out more often!
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:57 PM
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9. Aw sweetie.
Just do Christmas your own way. If it means not doing it at all, then shut out all the Christmas doings. It might mean finding your own way to celebrate that makes YOU happy.

:hug: I loved Christmas as a child, then hated it in my teens and twenties and I finally found a way to love it again. I reclaimed it for myself and we do it how WE want to do it. No other way. No commercialism or consumerism, we just enjoy a nice quiet, peaceful Christmas.

I hope you can find a way, too.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:08 PM
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20. I love love love it too
But exactly as Moonbeam says. It's on my terms. I cook up a storm, have special friends over, deck the halls and enjoy the winter chill that is Christmas in New England. What I do not do is charge my Visa to the limit, sorry George.

I love my holiday songs and Christmas videos, I turn off the tube when I hear those "Tick tick tick, hurry to the mall, wrap up Christmas sale" ads...

I guess I am just a sentimental slob at heart, and it's not nostalgia because the holidays were a disaster when I was a kid. So I invented my own celebration!
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:11 PM
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23. OMG me too!
Holidays were a disaster when I was a kid, too. But they were at least a pretty disaster. The rest of the year was just flat out a disaster.

Christmas: Pretty Much Every Year I was a Kid: Parents fighting like hell over having to go to each other's parents house. One or both of them drunker than Cooter Brown.

But gifts! And the tree and lights! And eggnog! And milk and cookies!

So not completely bad.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:19 PM
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28. Eggnog mmmmmmm glaghhhhhh mmmmmmmmmm
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:21 PM
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29. Oh P.S.
Every year my father would go to the liquor store and buy all these festively decorated boxes with liquor in them, cordials, all sorts of booze..."for our holiday guests". The funny thing is, NO one EVER came over. It was for Ma and Pa and another boozy holiday!
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:40 PM
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35. See nowdays that makes me laugh
as a kid it did not.

I guess because husband and I only drink on occasion and in moderation. We aren't anywhere close to being drunks.

Whereas my stepfather was a flat-out drinking at 10 am alcoholic and my mother was a pill hound.

Ug.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:59 PM
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11. I pretty much ignore it. Not important enough to hate.
I love winter though- sitting around the fire reading a book with a blizzard outside.

I'll probably go skiing this year.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:01 PM
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12. me. I don't want to think about it. The phoniness and forced
togetherness and TV land version of the perfect Christmas, all the extra work, the people almost running you over in parking lots as everyone is so crazy running, running, running. The whole world goes nuts for a few weeks. The wild money-spending and half the time the people don'tn like the gifts anyway.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:01 PM
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13. No tree for 2 years now..... I've lost the 'consumerism spirit'
It just seems so hollow.
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:02 PM
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14. Christmas is just a day where a ton of people gives gifts
i don't celebrate Christmas except for this part:
'heres a gift,you earned it for living' :thumbsup:
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:02 PM
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15. Boycott Christmas, Don't fluff up Shrub's economy
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 11:04 PM by Is It Fascism Yet
Personally, I am all done fluffing up merchants with my Christmas buck. The only thing the "owner class" understands is money and profit, and they aren't getting either from me this year until they count my god dammed vote, for Christ's sake. Christmas my foot, bah, shrub-bug! I also sold every bit of stock I had in the stock market, even my IRA and Roth and SEP accounts, had them transferred to savings accounts in banks, which didn't even disturb their tax status. I hope you all will do the same. Shrub's buddies are keeping the stock market looking decent until after inauguration, when they will start back with the old games of fluffing it up, selling, refluffing, and selling again. Stock prices have been artificial for a while, I think, all you need is enough money of your own to affect the prices. I am not spending a penny to help The Son of a Bush look good. I say, strike! Don't buy ANYTHING unless you absolutely can't get by without it. Someone else started a thread with the same idea and called it the "Starve The Beast" campaign. I really like that name for our strike, it is very description, and oh, so true. Starve The Damned Christmas Beasty Too! Also, I want to say that taxation without representation is unconstitutional and I don't think we should be paying our taxes since they don't count our votes. If only a few of us do it, it will be right off to Gitmo for us, but if half of America refuses to pay taxes, it will stop them in their tracks. They can't arrest us for not spending though, at least, they can't yet, although they are probably working on it. So, Starve The Beast, and, thank you!
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Nikepallas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:03 PM
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16. I am sorry for your lost and I use to hate the "early christmas" thing
But with the way life in this country is going right now I need something joyous to hold onto. Call it stupid hope or whatever but I need something good to happen to me... It looks like Christmas is it.
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Revolucionario83 Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:03 PM
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18. The same old shit.
I'm so damn sick of it,I already keep hearing all these Christmas songs, and I hate Christmas Songs!!! They're annoying!!! It just another holiday that has lost all meaning and that's been exploited by capitalism.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:09 PM
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21. In our lifetime we have only known Christmas as a commercial celebration
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 11:16 PM by Is It Fascism Yet
Right on! In my lifetime, Christmas has never been any thing more than an excuse for merchants to tell us we must buy from them to prove we love our families. Same with all their religious holidays, they are only another excuse why you MUST buy junk and candy. Personally, I am not a Christian, so, it doesn't bother me that they think the high holidays are all about shopping. I am a pagan, and Yuletide means much more to me than that. Yuletide does not require me to spend a cent at the store. I can celecbrate just fine without merchants. Let's all just have a lovely dinner at home, by the fire, with family, for Yuletide.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:05 PM
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19. This year we are going to Brazil for x-mas
why bother w/ a home tree. I love S America!
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:15 PM
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26. Great... Buy things we don't need, with money

... I don't have and somehow "fit" all this bullshit into my "leisurely" schedule...

Oh, yeah... I love Christmas... Only a month away, huh?

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:47 PM
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36. You posted a response to ME
I was confused (buy in Brazil....) until I realized you responded to the wrong answer.....I was baffled for a moment there!:D
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:10 PM
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22. Yeah, I hated it since my mom died
And then I had to deal with the effin ILS....not this effin year!
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:14 PM
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25. I hate the consumerism and want nothing to do with it...
my husband isn't really interested in the holiday, either, and the last few years we've done nothing except buy a few goodies for my nieces. I'm the only family member on the east coast, so the family members who like it can indulge and I can abstain w/o feeling like a scrooge.

We've not gotten a tree or anything in about 10 years, but -- oddly enough -- I was at a Mexican restaurant for lunch today and they had a picture of a cactus with lights. Tacky, I know, but I grew up about 20 miles outside of Palm Springs and even though I'm in North Carolina now, I really got tickled by the idea of a small little holiday cactus display. Weird, I know, sorta like Snoopy's cousin out in Needles.

It's hard to explain. My family has never been religious, the holiday was never about "Christ's birthday" (bullshit anyway IMHO) but was about being together, though my parents hated each other so it was always tense. And with all the suffering and misery in the world, it was hard to enjoy the holiday. I got so freaked out I couldn't even watch people unwrap gifts because I'd immediately start thinking about deforestation and trees being used to make shitty wrapping paper and then I'd obsess about trees being turned into toilet paper and no more homes for birds and elephants and tigers... geez, you get the picture. The entire thing triggered a major environmental panic attack for me.

So, I ignored the holiday (and most others; my husband's 25% Cherokee so Thanksgiving ain't exactly his favorite holiday) but this year, I've gotten a little past all of that (though I have to stun my mind into silence whenever I start to think of environmental damage) and think I've come to terms with some sort of spirituality and see the holiday as a way to perhaps express solidarity with others who suffer, or feel the same way I do... or maybe a way to wrest Christianity back from the born-agains who have completely perverted it. Because while I used to have nothing but disdain for religion (three of my sisters are fundies -- they have a different mom than I do and she was wacko) I now think that religion can serve a purpose so long as it's not extreme.

I'm rambling. Don't really know how to explain it, but for the first time in years I'd like to do something small; a cactus tree (lol) and a gift only if it really "fits" and no wrapping paper (I'm still obsessed with trees).
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:32 PM
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33. i think you and I are cut from the same cloth
holidays blow.

and I hate the thought of trees being butchered for wrapping paper and tissue paper...but not toilet paper! jeez, tp goes back into the ground. the chemicals in wrapping paper keep it from biodegrading and who needs it anyway? :hi:
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:53 PM
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39. yeah, but, why can't we use kudzu paper or something?

there's gotta be a way to use the creeping kudzu for paper, tp, etc. so trees don't take a hit!
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:17 PM
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27. me
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the Princess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:23 PM
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30. Me me me me me
I HATE CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:25 PM
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31. I hate holidays
because I have to spend it with my family :eyes:

I don't hate my family though, I just hate visiting them. we're a stressful clan with all kinds of mental issues. :eyes:

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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:27 PM
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32. Not doing Christmas, with one exception
I am not spending a dime on Christmas, in retaliation for my vote not getting counted, gonna hit 'em where they feel, the pocketbook. But the one exception has to be my three republi-thug nephews. I will send them a Christmas gift, even though I will neglect all others. They are getting a copy of Ferenheit 911 with a couple chunks of coal wrapped in. Then I am never speaking to them again.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:37 PM
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34. My new next door neighbors had their Christmas tree up the day after...
Halloween! My wife said that she couldn't believe that she was living beside people so tacky. I told her that wasn't so much tacky as it was just downright...weird. Very weird.
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intheozone Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:51 PM
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37. We are boycotting Xmas this year, if we
can't vote with our ballots (due to vote fraud) we will vote with our dollars by not spending any! We are not doing anything to help this economy under the * administration.
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intheozone Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:52 PM
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38. Yea, I finally got to 500!!! nt
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