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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 07:58 PM
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Group Forum Suggestion for John Kerry Supporters
I'm proposing a group forum for John Kerry supporters - for those who still support him whether or not he ends up winning the Presidency in 2004.

So far I've seen two other members who would like this. I believe I now need 10 members with gold stars to reply to this thread and express interest. I think it is then we have to get together and come up with a mission statement.

I hope I'm doing this right, I am kind of a noob.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 07:58 PM
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1. thanks
you got one.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 07:59 PM
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2. Sign me up
Is it alright if I'm in the John Edwards group as well? I love both of them, so...yeah. I love JK!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 08:01 PM
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4. no
:silly:
of course it is ok. I had one of these a few mornigns ago but my wording sucked and no one really joined.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:45 AM
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71. You should have let me know, John
I would have joined. You must know by now that I tend to miss everything. I missed all this and you know that I was here.:shrug:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 07:59 PM
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3. Me me me!!!!
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flpeach Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 08:08 PM
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5. You got me . . .
I adore Kerry!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 08:21 PM
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6. thanks guys
we onlyl need 6 more!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 08:34 PM
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7. in. :D
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:00 PM
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8. 5 more!
am i allowed to refer to this thread in other posts to get people over here?
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spatlese Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:00 PM
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9. I'm in... n/t
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Tom_Foolery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:14 PM
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10. I'm all for it! n/t
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spatlese Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:36 PM
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11. Kick
Hoping to pick up 3 more...

:kick:
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redsoxliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:40 PM
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12. Faye, you need to donate to DU.
By the way, do not misinterperet this as me wanting in on ANY John Kerry group!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:43 PM
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13. i thought the people who replied had to donate?
i didn't know the originator had to :(

i can't, i have no way to pay online.

dammit, we were so close. someone who can do this, please take this into your hands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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redsoxliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:49 PM
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14. no, to post in the forum you need to be a donor. nt
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:11 PM
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15. to post in the lounge forum?
or to post in the Kerry forum if it were to become?
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redsoxliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:28 PM
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16. umm... seriously, what do you think?
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:36 PM
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17. hee hee hee
:think:
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redsoxliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:40 PM
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18. i mean seriously, what the fuck would you think?
someone been passin, ay?
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:03 AM
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19. seriously
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 12:04 AM by Faye
it would be nice for someone to just say it, or to have been told in maybe the first reply to this thread.
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spatlese Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:05 AM
Response to Reply #19
20. Sorry...
didn't occur to me to check... :(
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #15
21. To post in the Kerry forum if it becomes...
You have to have a star.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:08 AM
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22. ok
then i guess someone else can request it, and someone else can post in it

and i'll just......

:cry:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:19 AM
Response to Reply #22
23. hey someone gave you a star
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:38 AM
Response to Reply #22
68. People are very kind on DU. There's never a need to panic
I know somebody who has more DU bumper stickers than they can possibly ever use.:-)
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:47 AM
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24. I'll go for it!
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 01:04 AM by Tom Kitten
Plus you have a star now so you can do just about anything! :)

And I'm taking names and numbers of asshole posters who made you cry and feel defeated instead of trying to help you...:grr:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:58 AM
Response to Reply #24
25. yay
!!!!!

now let's get back to work, we only need 3 more still, right?
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 01:16 AM
Response to Reply #25
26. aww
thank you :)

so including you, we only need 2 more!!! am i allowed to promote this thread in another existing thread?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 01:43 AM
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27. kick
:kick:
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 01:48 AM
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28. why the hell not? n/t
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 01:51 AM
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29. WOOHOO!!!!!
WE HAVE 10! Time to come up with a mission statement. Anyone willing to help? I can start one and someone else can look it over and add to it....

Now it just has to say WHY we want it, how it would be effective, etc?
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:30 AM
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30. ok
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 03:36 AM by Faye
i read the rules to request again - it said to post the mission statement IN this thread. For all those who replied to participate, this is the mission statement (PM me or add on if you think it should be different)

The mission of the John F. Kerry Supporters group is for members to discuss what attracts them to John Kerry: the highlights and history of his career and life, any impact he's had on our country, his accomplishments, his service and stance regarding the Vietnam war, and the strong emotional attachment that a lot of people seem to have developed toward him, especially since the 2004 Presidential Election.

**Also, for the time between now and January 20th, expressions of hope that he will be inaugurated on January 20th, 2005 as well as support for those who are dealing with any kind of depression or concern over the current results of the 2004 election.


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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 05:07 AM
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31. take out the second paragraph
about hopes he could get in, because it will just be too sad reading it if results don't change in his favor.

i wasn't too big on this because i would rather post kerry stuff in the regular forums so everyone can see. but if it's going to be formed i will check it out.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 05:20 AM
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32. threads about him getting into office could always be deleted
if it wasn't such hard work on admins, it might only take a few seconds.

OR - for now it could be for Kerry 'emotional' support, and then later if necessary, just general Kerry support, whether Senator or President.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 05:29 AM
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33. how about just "John Kerry" supporters
no reference to office or future office. one thing i want to avoid is getting too hung up on it being about a future campaign because we don't know what he will do.

by just making it about "john kerry supporters" that way it leaves it open to being about anything concerning him. we don't limit ourselves in that way.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 05:34 AM
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34. well that is of course what the naem would be like
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 05:40 AM by Faye
I would like the name of the forum to read John F. Kerry Supporters..

If you think it is better for the mission statement to omit official reference to the possibility of him winning this election, that is fine. But i'm sure it will still be ok for any participants to make posts in reference to it

I would still like one aspect of the forum to be a kind of 'group support' for those who are depressed or concerned with the current or future outcome of the election.

Am i making sense? Might sound confusing...
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:03 AM
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35. oh, of course
i was just referring to the mission statement in talking about leaving out too much reference to kerry's political future. but the actual posts and threads can be about anything concerning kerry.

i guess it was just a personal thing but i just didn't want a disappointed or sad feeling reading the mission statement mention something about Kerry that turns out not to happen and then just leaves me feeling sad again.

but on actual posts i expect people will discuss anything including myself.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:40 AM
Response to Reply #30
69. I think that this is just excellent
I couldn't have stated it any better.:-)
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NamVetsWeeLass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 06:29 AM
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36. Kick.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 11:18 AM
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37. Please include my name! I am a fan and a loyal supporter
I dance with the man who brung me, and he has brought our party a long way!

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 11:47 AM
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38. Add to the Mission Statement that
we support a grassroots communication with him so that he continues to speak for the 55 million who voted for him.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:31 PM
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39. Today's message from John Kerry (according to Josh Marshall)
"Regardless of the outcome of this election, once all the votes are counted -- and they will be counted -- we will continue to challenge this administration. This is not a time for Democrats to retreat and accommodate extremists on critical principles -- it is a time to stand firm.

I will fight for a national standard for federal elections that has both transparency and accountability in our voting system. It's unacceptable in the United States that people still don't have full confidence in the integrity of the voting process.

I ask you to join me in this cause."

That's a passage from a message Sen. John Kerry will be sending out to supporters later this afternoon.
-- Josh Marshall

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_11_14.php#004043
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:34 PM
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40. God I love that man
" This is not a time for Democrats to retreat and accommodate extremists on critical principles -- it is a time to stand firm"

damn straight.

by the way, any more suggestions to add to the mission statement before we go to the admins with this?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 02:16 PM
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42. I think you have done a great job with the mission statement.
Thanks for your efforts and congrats on your star! :-)
Welcome to DU :hi:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 01:17 PM
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41. where's all my people?
let's finish this up! i wanna talk about Kerry!
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 02:19 PM
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43. Question
Annoying haters can stay out of the forum, right?
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 02:23 PM
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44. Count me in!
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spatlese Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 02:29 PM
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45. Please...
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 02:31 PM by spatlese
don't call the initial posters who failed to notice her lack of a star 'haters'!

There was one poster who pointed out the obvious, and he/she was just a little more observant than others. Plus he/she clearly doesn't want to be part of this group anyway!

Can we at least agree on that? Thanks!
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 02:34 PM
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46. ?
was that directed at me?
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spatlese Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 02:37 PM
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47. Just in general...
to anyone who thought people were mean to Faye last night.. I personally felt bad that I failed to notice she did not have a star...
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 02:38 PM
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48. Oh ok
I was actually just referring to the people who go around bashing Kerry.
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spatlese Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #48
49. Oh... :)
Sorry.. I thought you were referring to 'mean people who made Faye cry' last night....

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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #47
50. aww it's ok
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 02:41 PM by Faye
i have one now, and that's all that matters, thanks to a very generous member of this board :) (was that supopsed to be a secret?) oops

anyway, i want at least one or two more opinions on the mission statement so far so we can submit this to an admin.

also - one question - would it be better for someone who has been here for a while to submit the request, or would it be fine if i did it?

****oh, yes i would like kerry haters and naysayers to stay out.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 02:45 PM
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52. Fantabulous!
I need a refuge from all that hatred.
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spatlese Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #50
53. I just read the instructions again...
here's the link... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=206x10

it does not have a restriction on who can suggest the group... so I think we're on the right road...

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 02:43 PM
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51. I'll support this
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #51
54. Final mission statement
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 03:18 PM by Faye
The mission of the John Kerry Supporters group is for members to discuss the highlights and history of his career and life, any impact he's had on our country, his accomplishments, his service and stance regarding the Vietnam war, and the strong emotional attachment that a lot of people seem to have developed toward him, especially since the 2004 Presidential Election. We will also support a grassroots communication with him so that he continues to speak for the 55 million who voted for him.

I'm just trying to make this all run smoothly - can at least 3 or so people reply and say they agree with this mission statement? Then I will submit it to admins. (I'll do it myself, I'm a big girl) ;)
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:02 PM
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55. I agree
Your mission statement is excellent.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:02 PM
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56. agreed
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #54
57. perfect
it leaves the group discussion open for anything concerning kerry so we can keep it up no matter what he does.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #57
60. can you make it just "John Kerry" instead of adding his middle initial
it makes it seem like more of a personal connection referring to him as just "john kerry". the other one sounds too informal and disconnected.
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spatlese Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:09 PM
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58. Great!
You go, girl!! :)
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #54
59. beautiful
thanks
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #59
61. thanks for the compliments
and that's fine with me to just leave it as John Kerry ( I personally like to call him JFK :D )

I guess it's time to submit this?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #61
62. yes, and thank you
for doing this.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #62
63. no problem, i hope we get it
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #63
64. I hope so too
I'm gonna have a brain aneurysm from seeing all the bashing threads. I need somewhere that's calm.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #64
65. I just added a last note to the mission statement
To keep out the non-supporters:

**Comments by individuals who do not support John Kerry are not welcome in this group.

(I noticed this in the John Edwards mission statement, and thought we should include as well)
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:42 AM
Response to Reply #54
70. I think that it's great and well-stated
It speaks for me.:-)
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:37 PM
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66. WE GOT IT!!!
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:33 AM
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67. I'm on board! I believed that Al gore won, but with John Kerry
we still have time on our side. I know nothing about drafting a mission statement, even though I'm hardly a noob, but just point me in the right direction. I think that John is the veteran DUer among us.:evilgrin:
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