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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:53 PM
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DU Fighters check in please
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 11:09 PM by GingerSnaps
We are the ones that have been after * since the last selection.

How many of us are left on here?

Do you still have the drive in you like we did prior to this election?

Anyone getting ready to pack it in and give up?

I want to march against the media, the fraudulent dictator and our almost forgotten past election.

Do we have enough people left that are willing to take to the streets before * inauguration?

This is "our" country not * country. I don't want to move out of my home and I am still willing to fight back any way that I can.

Can we all ban together and march on Washington?

I'm willing to rent a car or a van and drive it to Washington as long as it doesn't coincide with my finals.

DU has 55,000 members if not more. If we could all get a car load of people to go to Washington we would have enough people to fight back.

We can't give up because we have come too far. :grouphug:
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blueraven95 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:00 PM
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1. I'm up for almost anything...
if someone will tell me what I can do that will help the movement.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:55 AM
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18. We need both thought and effort...
Assuming the election result doesn't get overturned, we need to be thinking both mid- and long-term, as well as fighting "rear-guard" battles against whatever depradations BushCo has planned for the next four years.

The best thing anyone can do for that is by, first, becoming active participants at some other sites and blogs devoted to strategizing. I'm thinking of places like DailyKos and MyDD. DU has its place, but it really isn't a brainstorming forum.

Then, the next thing one can do is to join in building a community of progressive Democrats that's outside the main party structure. DFA has a large number of meetups nationwide which are going to be ongoing efforts to mobilize people for further brainstorming and, yes, local and national action. The upshot here is that we can't just sit back and let the DNC leadership figure out where we should go, or wait until they issue us marching orders.

Finally, when it comes to the DNC itself, we need to do all we can to make sure that it gets new leadership that recognizes that "business as usual" isn't going to cut it. There's a lot more about this at the two sites I mentioned above, where the strong consensus exists that the DNC needs a "reform" chairman who has shown success at working outside the strictures of the party organization -- Howard Dean (of course) and Simon Rosenberg have both drawn a great deal of attention in this regard. While the choice will be made by around four-hundred DNC officials, at least one of those sites has a list of which party members in your area will be making the decision, and ways to contact them to lobby for change.

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Dem_Loyalist Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:01 PM
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2. Is this only open to long time members
Or can us newbies jump in to help?
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:07 PM
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3. I might not have been on DU but
I've been fighting the beast since day one. Count me in. I've already been doing everything I can. I write on money, bathroom walls, I pass out buisness cards full of websites. I've been posting on classified boards. I've been buying classified ads in the paper. I have written every liberal paper around me and asked for help. I'm ready. Just tell me what we need to get done.
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L84TEA Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:07 PM
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4. Why Washington?
I personally don't want to be anywhere near the whitehouse. With all the friends Chimp has made...ugh!
I think we should walk up to Kerry's house!

:shrug:
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:25 PM
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5. More people
:shrug:
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:38 PM
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6. Since the 1980's
Never surrender
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:42 PM
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7. I propose a different tactic
we are expected to be in DC for a giant protest. If we did that we would get minimal coverage in the MSM no matter how many show up.

Many protesters will show up in DC regardless. Libs, Greens, gays, lesbian's, unionists, socialist, communist, anyone fearful of the current administration will gather from around the country.

Perhaps we need to get local coverage for thousands of local protests in thousands of local newspapers, TV, and radio .

From what I understand DU got it's start by unfurling a hand painted banner on TV at the 2000 inauguration(so to speak).

Protests in all fifty states would have a continuing effect in the local news media. Coverage of local demonstrations will not end on Jan 16th but will continue to draw local interest for at least a few days.

Protests at the warehouses where E-vote machines are stored are our best leverage at the local level. We can raise legit questions there,and raise awareness of the threat to democracy and get our feelings quoted in the press and on the front page. Protest vigils at our local monuments to Veterans can also get our voice heard.

Perhaps some unified protest symbol all across the nation will draw some sort of unified coverage.

We that believe in a true democracy are in the majority, although it is hard to see right now. I will continue to plan and continue to fight for a country that all can feel a part of and contribute to.


Amerikat

:hippie:
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:01 AM
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12. Every city had a protest the day after the election
The media didn't show it :shrug: We have to fight back and we need to start with this election and then the media has to be stopped.

We could do something like hands across America where we would all be joining hands on one certain day.
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:09 AM
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15. the net news coverage will be huge this time around
Just trying to get a grass roots reaction.....even the folks that voted for *2 are leary and are not sure they did the right thing in the past election. We need to take advantage of this.
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canito Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:56 PM
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8. DU check in & Democratic Party
I sure hope that all those rank & filers in the Democratic Party don't pack up after this election fiasco. But it is really frustrating to try to find an open forum where the rank and file members of this party can use the Internet to opening discuss and debate this election, including the decisions made by the DNC, by the party leadership, and by the Kerry Campaign. I think we read an open discussion about democracy and decision making in the Democratic Party itself, about how the platform is drafted, how candidates are chosen and funded. And... why didn't the Democratic Party pay for the recount in Ohio? Why didn' the Kerry Campaign pay for it? Why did Kerry concede so soon? What will the DNC do about voter intimidation, electronic voting without a paper trail, provisional ballots, spoiled ballots, the safety of ballots after they are cast, and all the other ''irregularities" that happened in this election?
Not to mention campaign finance reform and the too cozy connection between the Democratic Party and the Corporate Media many of us have blamed for the results of this election. Wasn't it under Bill Clinton that the broadcast corporate media was given the digital bandwidths for free when they could have rented them for enough money to finance public education? Was it under Clinton or Bush that the micro-media stations were shut down?
Despite these criticisms I am not ready to leave the Democratic Party yet -- not until the AFL-CIO decides that it will pull out and build and back a REAL Labor Party. And I'm not holding my breath, but given the fiasco of this defeat I think now is the time to begin an open forum on the structure, platform and decision making process of the Democratic Party itself.
Canito
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:59 PM
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11. That is the whole idea behind DU... has it happened yet?
Well, no.
Can it happen?
We, at least I, hope so.

Welcome. Join the zoo.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:04 AM
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14. We can't be complacent this time
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 12:13 AM by GingerSnaps
Our voting rights are going to be taken away and that is mainly what we need to fight over.

We have a baby Stalin in office right now and we might not be able to evict him right away but we need to fight for our voting rights.

:hug:
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Jack Schitt Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:57 PM
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9. I'm ready to kick a lot of republican ass!
Bring it bitches! (republicans and freeps)
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redsoxliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:58 PM
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10. I'm in if I can get there.
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L84TEA Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:02 AM
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13. I just think they are
going to make it so we are a million miles a way from the white house anyhow.
I would love to see a million liberal march of some sort. But, I just don't think DC is the place to be on inauguration day. I hate that creep...I don't want to even waste the gas for him. I think it would be funnier if NO one showed up.
PLUS... THE VOTES STILL AREN'T COUNTED!! Lets not go thinkin the worst yet...

But what do I know :shrug:
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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:11 AM
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16. "LIVE FREE OR MOVE"
I don't know how I plan on doing it, given my financial situation, but I'm convinced I'm going to be out of the States by this time next year.

I don't plan on shutting up, I've just got to get out of here for my sanity's sake.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:17 AM
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17. Moi
Some friends and I are after Santorum and Hyde. We evidently made Santorum squeal. And this is just round one.
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