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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:12 PM
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I'm divorcing my family.
I've stopped taking their calls and started looking into alternative sources of help for dealing with my disabilities and gaps in worldly knowledge. I'm not going to give you a life history. They are / were toxic to me and I can't take it anymore.

I will grieve, but in the end I hope I'll be healthier without them.

I might need to stay away from politics. Also, I might need--at the least--some support and encouragement.

As an aside, thank you Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Ayn Rand and Bu$hCO for turning my family into a bunch of fucking fascists. Thank you very much.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:13 PM
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1. That sucks :-\
Rush did the most damage to people I know
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:13 PM
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2. Bravo! Sometimes getting away from your dysfunctional family
is the most healing experience one can have!

I just limit my exposure, but if you need to sever ties, you have my support.
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Feathered Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:14 PM
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3. Oh, Ladyhawk...
We'll be here for you!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:15 PM
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4. oh honey. I'm sorry. I've watched your struggle for a while and I
send you hugs. My family, those I live in close contact with, are so damned cool, I'm almost embarrassed. Hugs! Hugs! Hugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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helnwhls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:15 PM
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5. one does not make such a decision lightly
It sounds like this is something you have thought through. I commend your courage. It is actually easier to stay in a sick relationship rather than disentagle yourself.

So here is a friday night toast to you and being true to yourself.

:toast:
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:16 PM
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6. I know what you mean...
I hold my Bush voting relatives in utter disdain and contempt. I can't stand to even be in the same room with them let alone engage in "intelligent" conversation because THAT is just not possible.

All the analogies and parallels apply --- we're living in 1933 Germany, there's mass brain freeze infecting the American electorate.
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kat21 Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:17 PM
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7. You should meet my brother -
I thinks he's done with my father (who, fortunately, is the only Bush supporter in my family). I don't think he will even come for Thangsgiving.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:18 PM
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8. Don't blame it on them (authors/radio/TV)
I've done lots of Rand reading and Rush listening and Hannity watching, and I'm as left as they come. It's the person who allows the brain to be washed, not the brainwashers themselves.
Sorry.
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Dirty Hippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:18 PM
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9. I divorced my family
years ago. Best thing I ever did. I keep in touch with my one sane sister. The others are crazy drama queens and they were continually sucking me into their turmoil.

I've never regretted my decision.
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Dez Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:22 PM
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14. Sorry Ladyhawk
That sounds really sad. Sad that they're all believing the lies, and it has come to that. Perhaps when things get even worse, they will see it was all caused by shrub, that Clinton had been out of the scene for so long, shrub wont be able to blame him or anyone else for the mess he's created..
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:36 PM
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20. Same here -- I divorced my family many years ago
and have had profound peace from "guilt" plus I've never had hives since!

I couldn't take their right wing hate -- racism and her fundamentalist and hours of her telling me how my dad was running around on her (all in her mind).

Now I've divorced have of my husband's family (rabid GOPigs) -- no more dread about having to listen to them.

The right wing talk show idiots give talking points to the right wing ministers and the church folk feel they have to "save" the non-believers and/or democratic relatives.

Removing stressors helps improve our mental health. And with some people there is no common ground -- it is either their way or bye-bye.

My 94 year old German neighbor -- divorced her family and left Germany -- it took her family over 30 years to acknowledge that she was correct in her decision to leave Germany as Fascism took over the country. She told her family that she couldn't choose family members (so she divorced them) but she could choose her friends.

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ezee Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:19 PM
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10. I understand, I am
considering the same action. Sometimes we need to do what is healthy,and not continue to perpetuate the illness. It is scary and lonely, but necessary for ones own survival.
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BoX o BooX Donating Member (643 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:19 PM
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11. Good luck. It was the best decision I ever made.
Deciding that I was not automatically beholden to anyone who happened to share my ancestry made me one step closer to whole; I now have better relationships with those I choose to, and no relationships at all with those I don't. I am of the opinion that we have obligations only to those who earn our loyalty; the others can fuck off.
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JaneEyrez Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:20 PM
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12. I agree...
I can't abide Bush supporters right now. My grief and anger is too strong. When they say anything about how "BU$H won," I want to smack their ignorant faces... and believe me I am not a violent person. :yourock:
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bsuz Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:22 PM
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13. Time apart can be very enlightening to all involved.
Stay the course. They and all the others will see it soon enough. The problem here is, to be certain, is not enough people can think for themselves, and the ones that do are looked upon as being "wierd, strange, whatever.... The most important thing is that you are looking out for #1 and your sanity.
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:23 PM
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15. again we are here for you and thats a fact !!!!
this Thanksgiving is going to a tuff one for so many people.Famillys have ripped apart by these scum bags who rant about familly values.You keep that T.V. off now !
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shesemsmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:24 PM
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16. Most of my family are still sane
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 08:25 PM by shesemsmom
thank god. But my Dad is somewhat messed with by his church, and it took a lot of talking to get him straightened out. My oldest(and dumbest) brother is a repuk city councilman and there is no reforming him . He bragged before the election he wanted to keep this status quo. IDIOT:nuke: My sister and her family and my other two brothers are sane. The repuk lived in Florida in 2000 and get this voted for Nader. I said * you Idiot, your vote actually counted.........twice* what a waste. I can't figure where my parents went wrong.
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shawcomm Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:27 PM
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17. Can't allow their evil to pollute your environment...
I had a couple of really close friends I grew up with, but no longer. They couldn't agree to just shut the hell up when we got together, so I had to break loose. It hurt, but I just couldn't take the right wing bullshit any longer. We haven't spoken since some time in September.

Thanks a lot bush. Because of you, I lost two really great friends. The whole republican thing is like a cult. They just would not listen to reason.
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Heyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:29 PM
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18. I have known some people who needed to do that..
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 08:30 PM by Heyo
.. but didn't.

From the outside you could see that person's own family, sadly, was literally breaking them down psychologically and just absolutely destroying them. Literally killing their soul.

But for some reason they stay around them.. like "battered wife syndrome" only by blood relation...

I am sorry your situation is as it is, but bravo for you recognizing it.

Heyo
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:30 PM
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19. I understand your frustration
I have a couple of relatives I refuse to talk to. When I talk to my Dad I only refer to them as "your sister." I even told my parents I will boycott any holiday gatherings. One of my uncles is an Ob/Gyn and he refuses to give any women birth control because of their religious beliefs. That is so sick and pushing their religion onto others. My other uncle is a Rush lover. When we talk about the education system and the American Dream, he gets offended because I can talk intellectual. He has this warped thinking I am talking down to him because I have a Grad degree and he has no degree. Now, I just, FUCK THEM BOTH.

So I say good for you.
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AtlantaBob Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:36 PM
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21. You're not losing a family, just trading them in on a new one.
Over at Smirking Chimp we are having local meetups - maybe that'll help!

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Suzie57 Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 09:04 PM
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22. My Independent mother
decided to vote for Bush at the last minute. I asked her why after wards and she couldn't really justify it. Then she says, "Well at least your stock will probably go up." (I work at Boeing & own some of their stock thru my savings plan) I was absolutely dumbfounded. I told her the next time we spoke that her comment was the most depressing thing I'd ever heard her say. I am totally disgusted with her. Even sadder is that my oldest brother is in the final stages of cancer and his goal was to stay alive long enough to vote for Kerry. I've decided not to share with him how she voted and what she said to me. I'd rather he went to his grave without knowing.
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