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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:04 AM
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did anyone see the brawl at the Detroit/Indiana game???
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 12:09 AM by mark414
holy shit!

edit: i should probably mention what happened

ben wallace (of the pistons) got fouled as he was going up for a basket and pushed one of the pacers...players started getting rowdy, the usual nba brawl, when ron artest (of the pacers) was laying on the scorer's table and a fan threw a soda at him...he went into the stands after the fan and that's when shit hit the fan. players were fighting fans, artest was literally swarmed by detroit fans (the game was in detroit). fans were coming on the court, chairs, soda, beer, everything being thrown at the pacers.

apparently the detroit fans had been hurling racial slurs, among other things at the pacers all night. the pacers coach (who used to coach the pistons), said he felt like he was literally fighting for his life.

before anyone makes snide comments about the players, watch the video first. yeah the players overreacted but this would not have happened if it wasn't for the fans.

i hope they use the video footage to put every one of those fuckers in jail. it was disgusting.
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:09 AM
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1. Pistons fans = NO CLASS
They are completely to blame for this bullshit. These are the same morons who practically burned the city to the ground in 1984 and 1988.

Of course, there will be no arrests tonight. Not like any of those drunken dipshits need to be punished.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:11 AM
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2. no class indeed
i assume you saw the video

what the fuck was that??? especially when artest was walking off the court??? did you see o'neal just clock that fat guy in the pistons jersey?? dude got what he deserved.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:20 AM
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4. Bullshit
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 12:21 AM by Strawman
There are drunk disphit fans everywhere and those fans who threw shit deserve to be punished. But Piston fans are no worse than anywhere else so don't go making blanket statements like that. Most of them do have class.

Like it's impossible to imagine things escalating anywhere else but Detroit after a player (a renowned villian like Ron Artest, no less) goes into an angry crowd to fight a fan after pissing off the town hero (Ben Wallace). I've been to several games at the Palace and normally it's a great atmosphere.

Nobody "burned the city to the ground" in 1984 or 1988. Some assholes burned a police car in 1984 after the Tigers won.

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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:23 AM
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5. Oh, yes, poor, poor Ben Wallace
Guess he can't take a hard foul, he has to shove Artest like a little crybaby.

Whatever, I guess it's to be expected that Pistons fans will defend those pieces of shit tonight that were at the Palace.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:25 AM
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6. Ron Artest ...fucking choir boy
Whatever. Everyone from Detroit is a "rioter in waiting" too.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:35 AM
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11. No, they're not
Not everyone believes that, just people who never lived there.

Hi Strawman! Born and raised in Detroit (city, not 'burbs), now living in Chicago. :hi:

There were plenty of "rioters in waiting" here when the Bulls won too. I was in the middle of the 1984 series "riots", the Piston championship "riots" and then, after moving here to Chicago, witnessed the Bulls' championship "celebrations". There were a lot more guns fired here and they even overturned a car on Division street. I'm guessing that didn't make the lead on the national news. :eyes:
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:18 AM
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3. Well, he got benched for bustin' rhymes....
Now I'll bet he gets benched for bustin' heads...

Artest, that is.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:26 AM
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7. No, but I can't wait to see it
/rubbernecker
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:28 AM
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8. FOUND A WORKING VIDEO LINK!
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:33 AM
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9. I saw it...
Basketball is, with a few exceptions, the only sport left that actually practices good sportsmanship. My husband and I love the game for that so that brawl tonight totally shocked us.
In our opinion, the fans took a minor incident and turned it into the melee it ended up as. I hope they were all arrested.
A few of the players also need to be penalized for their contributions as well.
Will alcohol be controlled or banned?
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:35 AM
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10. what kind of moron yells racial slurs in Detroit?
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BTFSTL Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:41 AM
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12. Just saw the whole thing on SportsCenter...
...including a breakdown of the whole incident.

Ben Wallace shouldn't have shoved Artest like he did; it didn't look to be that bad of a foul. But I place the most blame on the "fans" who basically escalated the whole thing.

Bill Walton put it best: It was a disgrace. It's a wonder someone didn't get killed, player, coach or fan.

Supporting your team is one thing. These "fans" should be banned from ever attending any type of sporting event - even kids' sports.

As far as the players involved, there should be long suspensions and heavy fines - players and the organizations. The next time (sometime in March, I think) the Pacers and Pistons play in Auburn Hills, it should be done in an empty building - no fans at all. FIFA has punished national soccer teams for hooliganism - why not the NBA?
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:20 PM
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13. I think the Detroit fans
were just jonesing for a Hockey game. :hi:
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:30 PM
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14. No....why don't you tell us about it?
:eyes:
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