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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:16 AM
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What's to "Get" about "The Incredibles"?
Beefy white dudes with lantern jaws, physically maximally strong yet beleaguered by a harpy wife and daughter (WOMEN), great suburban provider but struggling titanically in the outside world, wife looks like Pickles, he smacks her on the but like Shrub, wife is wrapped up wither her vaccuum cleaner, SHE is irresitibly hot after him not so much him after her (he's got Duty to do), he excises a would be kid sidekick and heads right to the marriage vows...

Is this a wingnut epic or what?
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:19 AM
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1. Did not see it, but friends liked it
So... didja see it?

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:24 AM
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5. Yes, As Said
Question is, what's good about it? What am I not getting? It sets off my wingnut radar. All the tension, stress, bickering in it (and that's just the family), plus that satiny red costume on the dude that makes his beefiness just way repulsive, and was that a FRENCH dude at the beginning that got exterminated?
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:20 AM
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2. It's not wingnut to have a normal family life.
The ability for a family of four to live comfortably on a single income is something we lost forever under Reaganomics.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:21 AM
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3. I think maybe that's reaching a bit.
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:21 AM
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4. I thought it was cute
be careful about reading too much into a movie.

Sometimes it's just a cute movie.

Ad I think elastic-girl was a hell lot more assertive then you let on.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:24 AM
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6. You're over-reaching
It's a cute story about utimately having to be who you really are. You can be nothing else, nothing less.

Accepting someone else's veneer of expectation about you leads to mental health issues, which the chidren symbolically work out. They realize their powers are nothing to be ashamed of, and in fact are their true source of power.

We don't have superpowers, but we all have some powers, a.ka. talents, that when expressed properly work for the good of you and your community.
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:31 AM
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7. Its not what you think
Check it out, it even hints at how lifestyle choices should not be a mark of shame.
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:33 AM
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8. Hmmmm...I didn't get all that out of it.
You could just as easily say it is about extraordinary people struggling to fit into a dull, conformist society. A tale of outsiders rejected by the masses because they are different.

Remember in the movie the government seems all too happy to let the "supers" disappear. They are all being killed off and the government (under who's care these people have been placed) doesn't notice? Or perhaps doesn't care?

Ultimately this movie could be said to be about being true to yourself despite the costs.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 03:51 PM
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13. Exactly!
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:11 PM
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24. It's about what happens after tort limits... hmmm, quite a lesson! n/t
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 03:28 PM
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9. I haven't seen "The Incredibles" yet
But it's by the same guy who did "The Iron Giant" which was a Liberal 10 on a scale of 1 to 10.

Sometimes it's just a cigar, ya know?
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 03:35 PM
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10. I thought it was pretty good
I think some reviews were overrating it but I enjoyed it.

It wasn't as good as Finding Nemo or Shrek 1.


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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 03:40 PM
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11. It was good for the shots at the insurance industry alone
My favorite parts were at his day job with that evil, greedy boss.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 06:38 PM
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18. Oh yeah, I used to work for that guy too
and Wallace Shawn was so wickedly evil as the boss character
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 03:50 PM
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12. Wow...just, WOW.
If you really are drawing those type of conclusions from a movie made by Hollywood liberals that's seeking to do nothing but entertain, you might have some problems.

Chill out and enjoy it, stop trying to over-analyze.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:46 PM
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14. I'm Not a Big Movie Fan, and Pretty Basic in All Ways
Some might even say "simplistic". I know nothing about the political background of the makers of this thing. Just looked in on it because of the buzz. I'm not into fanatasy animation or even fantasy live action. When Crouching Tiger was hot, I saw it, I think I "got" it as a medieval thing of adventures. But seeing people "fly" through the air and hopping and slicing and dicing did absolutely NOTHING for me, even apart from just plain visual beauty.

That said, I looked at half of this current thing, had no intention of buying into any story line, left to get something and never went back. So I won't be enjoying it. I didn't like the look of the characters, got only vibes of tension and stress from it, and if there is a message that is uplifting, I can get that message in other formats/media/packaging that is more palatable to me.

That said #2, it's a big leap from "Chill out" to "you might have some problems". I asked originally for a friendly explanation of what I wasn't "getting". Now I know the question was irrelevant.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 06:02 PM
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15. I didn't care for it at all.
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 06:02 PM by DrWeird
Very flat. Boring characters. Poorly edited. Way too predictable. Nothing original.

The best part about the film was the three minute short about the dancing sheep before the picture.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:09 PM
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22. I Think Dr Weird, CatWoman, and Me Need to Happy-hour
and by the way, where is my last CatWoman when I really need her?
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 06:10 PM
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16. the guy who created it knocked liberalism, sort of
its in some article in the NY Times today:

Wrong-headed liberalism seeks to give trophies to everyone just for existing," he said. "It seems to render achievement meaningless. That's a weird goal."

He sounded very much like Professor Colangelo, who says that children want to compete and can cope with defeat a lot better than adults imagine. "Life hurts your feelings," Mr. Bird said. "I think people whine about stuff too much. C'mon, man, just get up and do it."


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/21/weekinreview/21tier.html?pagewanted=2&oref=login

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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 06:15 PM
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17. not really
We can be wrong. I think he has a point. It's like the grade school, some years back, that wanted to ban competitive sports like dodgeball from the playground. There was some wrong-headed liberalism.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 06:39 PM
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19. Yeah right
"Wrong-headed liberalism seeks to give trophies to everyone just for existing," he said. "It seems to render achievement meaningless. That's a weird goal."

Yet, he voted for Bush. Go figure.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 06:40 PM
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20. It's a frickin' cartoon...why are you reading so much into it?
It's supposed to be fun. Just take at face value and stop being so negative.
Duckie
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:00 PM
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21. Put Me on Ignore, Yellow, You Don't Like Nuthin 'bout My Posts n/t
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:30 PM
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27. But if I did that, who would keep your ego in check?
:bounce:
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:37 PM
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29. Ego? Mowi? (sp)--------CATWOMAN!!! Get Your Ass Over HERE!! n/t
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:41 PM
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30. Moi would be the correct spelling
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:46 PM
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31. You Understand Me So Well n/t
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:08 PM
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33. Sarcasm?
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duker63 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:47 PM
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32. a big scoobie doo hmmm?
movie was funny my 5 year old liked it
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:10 PM
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23. I loved it.
Funny dialogue, good plot and a happy ending.

I see where you might think it's a wing-nut movie, but even if it is it's still pretty good.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:16 PM
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25. most people who make animated movies aren't wingnuts...
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 10:21 PM by sonicx
hell, most animated movies don't feature "intact" families.

Look at Brad Bird's previous movie "Iron Giant" and try and call him a 'wingnut'
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:23 PM
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26. I'm probably one of the most liberal people on DU, and I loved the movie
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 10:23 PM by TroubleMan
He wasn't beleagured by his wife and daughter...he was beleagured by a dead end job, where he was forced to do what he thought was immoral work.

BTW....the woman was a much stronger character than him, and he used his wife and kids as his guiding light to carry him through the doldrums of his daily grind. He was a loving husband and father who hated his job...I've been there...I can relate. It sometimes distracts you from what's important, your family. He forgets this, and then learns this lesson in the end.

Also, many of the things you don't like are typical superhero stereotypes, and the movie was making fun of those...did you notice he got a beer gut later on in the movie?

I used to watch a lot of cartoons and read comic books when I was a kid. This movie parodies a lot of them in a lot of ways, and does so effectively. The monologueing thing was hilarious.

IMHO, it was a fun movie to watch, but different people have different tastes.

In these tough times, where us liberals are on the ropes, it's hard not to look into everything too deeply. I do it way to much myself. However, I think that's what you did this time. I think it was just meant to be a fun movie for both parents who used to be comic book buffs and cartoon fans, and the kids. I don't think any political statement was trying to be made ... other that insurance companies are evil.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:33 PM
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28. I Appreciate Your Thoughtful Comments, But
all these posts about me analyzing too deeply---no, I'm shallow. This thing just didn't grab me, like, in a soundbyte. Dead-end-job----well, what was that Michael DOUGLAS (whom I don't like) movie, "Fall Down" or whatever-----I like THAT kind of treatment of a theme.

Anyway, thanks for your kind tone. I'm REALLY superficial. My choice of a great movie is something like "Topsy Turvey" which NOBODY has ever seen, a REALISTIC thing about the INTRICATE workings of Gilber-Sullivan, with the cast ALL talented AND frail.

CATWOMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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