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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:13 PM
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ROLLING STONE ranks the so-called "500 Greatest Songs of all Time."
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 04:18 PM by NightTrain
> http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/6596661/500songs

If you're a Classic Rock lover, I'm sure you'll think the RS list is the greatest thing since sliced yogurt. However, the best I can say is that it's not quite as big a joke as the magazine's last Top 500 was (in 1988). That's mainly because this time around, they actually included some tunes that predate "Louie, Louie." :eyes:

But in typical RS fashion, the Top 500 is heavily slanted toward AOR. The list ranks "Hey Jude" and "Yesterday" as the two greatest Beatles records, and "Good Vibrations" as the greatest Beach Boys tune. :boring:

It also ranks "Hound Dog" above everything that Elvis did on Sun. And James Brown's .357 magnum opus, "Papa's Got A Brand New Bag," doesn't show up until #72, well behind "Waterloo Sunset," "Hotel California," "Blowin' in the Wind," and "A Whiter Shade of Pale." Give me a fucking break! :puke:

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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:17 PM
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1. old classic rock lover but....
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 04:19 PM by medeak
it's all am music. Very disappointing.

edited to say..at least Derek and the Dominos made it.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:19 PM
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2. What do you mean, "No Eric Clapton?" "Layla" is at #27!
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:29 PM
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9. yeah....caught that and edited. :-) eom
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:21 PM
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3. Frankly I'm pleased to see a non-Beatles tune at number one.
Other than that, this list is a useless as the rest of them. I don't know why "Imagine" is at number 3 or why the highest-listed Kinks song (at 42, no less!) is "Waterloo Sunset."

Again, useless.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:22 PM
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5. "Useless" pretty well sums it up.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 05:13 PM
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24. Absolutely, totally useless
They say that part of the nominating committee is composed of "Songwriters." ..Shit...What a Joke.

And Joni Mitchell has songs in the 200, 400 catagory??....LOL!
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 05:09 PM
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23. Yep--compared to Victoria, or Shangrila, etc. Waterloo sucks (nt)
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:21 PM
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4. One is the highest ranked U2 song?
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 04:25 PM by imenja
Anybody else think that's nuts?
What about "Sunday, Bloody Sunday," or "With or Without You"?
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:24 PM
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6. I saw that
"One" is one of their greatests, but not compared to fucking "With of Without You", "New Years Day" "Sunday Bloody Sunday"...etc. WTF ever!
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:26 PM
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7. Only 2 Smiths songs?
And "William, It Was Really Nothing" outranked "HOW SOON IS NOW??" Are they kidding??
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petepillow Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:26 PM
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8. I used to wonder, "Why do they bother with this shit, it's always bogus!"
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 04:32 PM by petepillow
Now I understand... it's tons of publicity to make people go check out the list just so they can bitch about it. Remember the guitarist list? COMPLETELY rediculous, and yet, how many copies of the issue were sold? How many articles and bloggers and converstations on the street mentioned the words "Rolling Stone"? Tons and tons. Mission Accomplished.

Hence the Rolling Stone formula:

1. Write a rediculous list full of weak judgement and logic holes

2. Tout it as definitive

3. Count the money
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bo44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:29 PM
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10. thanks for the warning
I will pass on the aggravation and pain. The list as you describe it sounds no different the Grammy Awards Shows of the Seventies dork pop always trumped real music played by real musicians.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:29 PM
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11. Patti Smith's "Easter" or "Gloria" should be there . . .
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 04:35 PM by imenja
There are way too many Beatles songs.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:33 PM
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12. Aargh they didn't pick your song
:cry::cry::cry: :cry::cry::cry: :cry::cry::cry: :cry::cry::cry:

This is a list of songs in someone else opinion, not yours or mine. Do you really think Rolling Stone or any other sorce could come up with a list of 50 songs in an order that everybody could agree on? i think not.

Many of you don't even seem to like 500 songs.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:50 PM
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19. I lend far more credence to Dave Marsh's 1989 book...
...THE HEART OF ROCK AND SOUL: THE 1001 GREATEST SINGLES EVER MADE. You can find Marsh's selections here:

http://www.lexjansen.com/marsh/index.htm

And by the way, I've been researching music and collecting records and CDs for 25 years. I like a whole lot more than 500 songs, O Presumptuous One!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:55 PM
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20. I said some of you not "NightTrain"
Why take it so personal O Presumptuous One! yourself :spank:
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:33 PM
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13. VERY subjective
I think they missed a great tune:
"Cowboy Song/Emerald" By Thin Lizzy.
But, as some have pointed out, it never got the air of the boys are back and jailbreak.
They also missed John Mayall's "Room to Move", arguably the best harmonica tune ever.

"Sneaking Sally through the Alley" By Robert Palmer is also missing.

Course, I don't listen to the huge airplay tunes, I just get sick of em.
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TimeToGo Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:37 PM
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14. Unlike winning a poltical race
winning a Top 500 doesn't give you any power. You don't have to like it.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:37 PM
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15. Every Breath You Take...................
#84!! :puke: I vote this the creepiest damn song ever made. Certainly not top 500 material, let alone top 100!
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:38 PM
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16. No "They Saved Hitler's Cock"?
outrageous
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 05:06 PM
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21. No "Ballad of Jerry Curlan"? is more like it.
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:42 PM
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17. I always smile when I see...
The Five Satins...."In the Still of the Night" listed, anywhere, as one of the greatest songs recorded. It is, truly, the epitome of beauty.
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scubadude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:43 PM
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18. Not a single song from Pink Floyds masterpiece, Dark Side of the Moon...
Pink Floyd doesn't come in till song 314, Comfortably numb.
Their next is at 316, Wish you were here, followed by Another Brick In The Wall is 375.

I think the list is suspect!

Scuba
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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 05:09 PM
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22. can I nominate an entire album?
Namely... all of "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot" by Wilco?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 06:09 PM
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25. Duck and cover. I like the list!
I don't agree with everything but I think it is a good well thought out list. You can't agree on everything!
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 06:25 PM
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26. WHAT! No...
.... Eno, no King Crimson, no Talking Heads?

No Boards of Canada, no Squarepusher?

No Massive Attack, no Sublime.. no freaking Sublime?

Not that I expected any of those artist (well, except Talking Heads and Sublime) to be on such a list.

If your tastes are not mainstream you get used to rock-crits dissing your tastes routinely.

Me, I remember when Rolling Stone was about music. When they started coverin movies and actors, I bailed (this was long ago folks).

Because at that point, they were not about the music any more. :)
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:05 AM
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27. Note the self-serving Top Two.
1. Bob Dylan, "Like a ROLLING STONE"
2. The ROLLING STONES, "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction"

I'm surprised they didn't rank "ROLLING STONE" by Muddy Waters at #3! :eyes:
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:17 AM
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30. And "Papa Was A Rolling Stone"
at #4. hehe
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:10 AM
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28. The obsession with "Best of all time" lists in recent years
has gotten old fast.

Pick your favorite song. There. That's the best song of all time. You don't need 800 "experts" to figure that out, now do you?
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:41 AM
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29. "Top 500," huh?
Somehow I just can't picture the editors quibbling about whether song #378 should trade places with #379 or not.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:41 AM
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31. Sorry, this list SUCKS...
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 04:54 AM by Spider Jerusalem
it seems more based on popularity than quality. I can think of dozens, scores or even hundreds of songs better than most of what's listed. And they seem to be ranking PERFORMANCES and not SONGS, too. FOr instance, Jeff Buckley's cover of Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah". This list is tripe.

Edit: and I see it says that the panel included "songwriters". Hm. Not good ones, apparently. Or maybe it was professional jealousy that kept them from listing anything by Tom Waits, Nick Cave, and Leonard Cohen (except for the Buckley cover, that is)?
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:40 AM
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32. "Like a Rolling Stone" #1?????
Come on! I love Bob Dylan, but this song is not the best song, let alone the best Bob Dylan song. At the most, it's the most commercial Dylan song.

I nominate "Isis"....

or at least "Hurricane", if you want to go for a single that had radio play.

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