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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:27 PM
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Anyone here an ancestor of a confederate soldier?
Just kinda, you know, curious.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:29 PM
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1. Do you mean descendent or are you just being facetious ?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:40 PM
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8. No, I meant exactly what I asked
:P

Just curious to see how much people are paying attention.

I'm glad you are!
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kclown Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:32 PM
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19. Zaphod Beeblebrox
"Listen, I'm Zaphod Beeblebrox. My father was Zaphod Beeblebrox II. My grandfather was Zaphod Beeblebrox III."

"How is that possible?"

"There was an accident with a contraceptive and a time machine."

Adams' Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:29 PM
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2. Uh-impossible
do you mean "do you have an ancestor that was a confederate soldier?" Or are you a descendant of...
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:29 PM
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3. 2 of my great grandfathers were Civil War Generals
One was a Union General, and the other was a confederate General.
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whalerider55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:31 PM
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5. that is pretty cool...
i'm a civil war buff...
willing to divulge their names?

whalerider55
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:19 PM
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24. May I ask
which ones?

I'm just curious... :hi:
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whalerider55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:30 PM
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4. No, but...
on my wife's side they fought in the union.

they actually had a skirmish on their farm in Pensnsylvania just around gettyburg.

as for my side of the family, the best i can offer is once, when i was talking to my russian-born grandmother, she told me that in her opinion, Trotsky was a much better speaker than Lenin, and proceeded to tell me about the times she had heard them both speak...

whalerider55
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:34 PM
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6. Do i have an ancestor that was a confederate soldier?
Maybe on my father's side, but i don't know.....
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:37 PM
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7. Native American, here
My ancestors were probably cheering from the sidelines.
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420inTN Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:42 PM
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10. Didn't some of the plains indians fight on the Confederate side? n/t
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ragin_acadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:37 PM
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14. i'm sorta-kinda a civil war student,
there seems to be some sort of academic debate as to whether the sioux indian attacks in michigan should be included in the civil war - supposedly they were suggested/instigated by the confederate government. The northern prison camps recruited southern soldiers to fight those indians, and they were called "galvanized yankees". Usually the more scholarly books or sites on the internet include something about the Sioux, but the civil war market mostly caters to the more mainstream idea's of the war and focus on the eastern theater.
Cherokee's fought for the confederates, and the last standing force of confederate soldiers to ever surrender was Stand Watie's indians on June 23, 1865. They were excellent soldiers, but they were unwilling to march in a straight line, catch bullets with their bodies, and have limbs sawed off with no anesthesia. (they were a bit more sensible) They were ultimately delegated to border skirmishes, patrols, and raids.

anyway, it's shocking the amount of material that has been written on the war, i've got one hell of a roach thumper on my shelf called "The secret war for the union" by Edwin Fishel, 733 pages of pure unintelligable academic study focusing on spywork during the war. i'll probably be finished with it around the time we have another civil war.
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420inTN Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:08 PM
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17. I was thinking that the Cherokees fought for the Confederates...
but that was in the haze in the back of my mind. I wasn't sure about the Sioux.
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:31 PM
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31. Weren't they watching and scratching their heads
and looking at at each other saying "wtf?"....lol
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:41 PM
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9. I have ancestors that fought for the confederacy
And some that fought for the Union. Most of the confederate ones probably came from Texas. My 3rd Great Grandfather, Thaddeus L. Waters, fought for the Union from Michigan. He spent time in Andersonville.

The only confederate I know for sure is Jacob Cole. He was in Company G., 2nd Louisiana Calvary from July 27th, 1863 to Aug., 1863. He enlisted as Moundville, LA.

There were a whole bunch of Texans, though, that I suspect fought for the confederacy, though I haven't found any proof of that yet.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:45 PM
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11. Yep, right here.
My grandson invents a time machine in the year 2048, stopped in 2000 to visit me, then went back to 1844 to help elect James K. Polk to the presidency (for some reason he was a big fan). Well shortly after his visit with me, I received a Western Union telegram much like in Back to the Future II, wherein he said he loved the time period so much he was going to stay. I went to the library, looked him up, and found that the son he had in 1845 went on to fight for the Confederacy.

Small world, huh?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:56 PM
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12. I'll be damned! i didn't think there would be anyone here who is a "yes"
But by golly, there you are! I failed to consider the effects of time travel.

It is indeed a small world.

Wouldn't it be interesting if the majority of people who voted for Polk turned out to be from the future?
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:03 PM
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13. I think the catchy They Might Be Giants song turned many folks on to him.
At least that's what my grandson told me.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:42 AM
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15. I am a descendant of two who served...
In the Texas Confederate Cavalry. There were two others, Sons and Brothers who served with them. One of them was killed.
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:12 PM
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30. What part of Texas?
Mine came from Harris/Liberty/Galveston, then Williamson, then Scurry counties.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:03 AM
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16. on my Mom's side
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 07:05 AM by WoodrowFan
Great-Great grandfather a Confederate Chaplin in a Tennessee regiment. On my Dad's side a great great uncle was in an Indiana Artillery unit.


as for being an ansestor, Mrs Woodrow fan and I are rugrat free so we won't have any decendents in the next Civil War.


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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:10 PM
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18. One of my ancestors was a union soldier
Francis volunteered for the civil war at the age of 19 on February 10, 1864 in Beekmantown (Clinton County -- New York) and was mustered in on March 4, 1864.

Francis was a private of the 16th Cavalry Regiment, Company L.

He was a prisoner of war, captured in Centreville, Virginia, on June 24, 1864. He died on October 24, 1864 at the Hospital of Andersonville, Georgia, of scorbutus. His grave number is 11421.
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:37 PM
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20. I'm My Own Grandpa
It sounds funny, I know,
But it really is so,
Oh, I'm my own grandpa.

Now many, many years ago, when I was twenty-three,
I was married to a widow who was pretty as could be.
This widow had a grown-up daughter who had hair of red.
My father fell in love with her, and soon they, too, were wed.

This made my dad my son-in-law and changed my very life,
My daughter was my mother, cause she was my father's wife.
To complicate the matter, even though it brought me joy,
I soon became the father of a bouncing baby boy.

My little baby then became a brother-in-law to Dad,
And so became my uncle, though it made me very sad.
For if he was my uncle, then that also made him brother
Of the widow's grown-up daughter, who, of course, was my stepmother.

Father's wife then had a son who kept him on the run,
And he became my grandchild, for he was my daughter's son.
My wife is now my mother's mother, and it makes me blue,
Because, although she is my wife, she's my grandmother, too.

Now if my wife is my grandmother, then I'm her grandchild,
And everytime I think of it, it nearly drives me wild,
For now I have become the strangest case you ever saw
As husband of my grandmother, I am my own grandpa!

:headbang:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:53 PM
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22. At least a couple of you got it
And read the question closely.

Lots of people didn't. :-)

Good job at reading and responding properly!
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MaryH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:43 PM
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21. My great uncles were with Quantrell's Raiders
I think we were kind of on the fence here in Missouri. But that side of the family goes clear back to the 1650's in the US and fought in the Revolutionary War.
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RUDUing2 Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:00 PM
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23. ancestor of: no, but I am from Missouri Ozarks so I am from
one of those families who were split by the war..

The sons fought for the Union, the Daughters husbands fought for the Confederacy. A great, etc uncle was lynched for preaching abolitionism...my greatgreat grandpa married his sons widow when his son was killed in the war...and so was both father and grandfather to his sons kids....and had more kids that were both half sibs and neices/nephews, aunts/uncles to each other....can anyone top that?
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:25 PM
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25. Descendant of a Revolutionary soldier and a Mayflower passenger
I have to obtain the official records, so I can join the DAR. I think liberals are allowed.

I do know the name of the Mayflower passenger-Richard Warren. The Roosevelts also descended from him.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:36 PM
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26. Yes...
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 03:36 PM by GoddessOfGuinness
My maternal grandfather's father, who was a poor blacksmith, and not even remotely interested in owning slaves, fought for Georgia because he didn't like the Federal Gov't telling GA what to do; and because he was promised all kinds of benefits. He fathered my granddad when he was in his 60s. When WWI broke out, he warned my grandfather to stay out of the service, saying that the government would promise uniforms, boots, decent meals and decent pay, but would never follow through.

My dad's ancestors were mostly slave-holding southerners who fought in the Revolution, the War of 1812, the Mexican War, and for the South in the Civil War. They were as bigoted a set of bastards you'd ever meet, and did their best to hand their ignorant legacy down to subsequent generations. When I was 6 years old, my grandmother gave me a lecture about associating with "those kind of people" after I introduced her to my best friend.

Don't get me wrong...I love them, and appreciate the good that they did; but I am so grateful that my parents raised me differently.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:38 PM
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27. Haha!
You got me! :D
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:40 PM
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28. Ever heard of Colonel Angus?
Fought in the Battle of the Big Thicket down in the Deep South.

I've heard we might be related.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:41 PM
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29. No...I'd be in Guiness if I were...
:shrug: What gives? :hi:
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Kiteflyer Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:37 PM
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32. No, but
there are a few drunks in my family. Do they count?
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:18 PM
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33. Did you know Wild Bill
is a descendant of Davy Crockett? And a lot of other historical types, too. Take a gander at this:

http://www.s-t.com/daily/10-96/10-28-96/a05wn028.htm

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