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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:48 AM
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Poll question: What is YOUR definition of the Midwest?
To some, the Midwest is Kansas, Nebraska, etc...

To me, the Midwest is Wisconsin, Illinois, Ohio, Minnesota, Michigan, Indiana...

I always considered Kansas, etc. to be the Great Plains or whatever...though maybe that's cause I'm from Wisconsin\

So, what is it?
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:50 AM
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1. The Midwest in my opinion consists of these states:
Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska and Kansas.

I have NEVER figured out why people consider Ohio to be in the Midwest. Maybe back in the 1850's, it was.
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StrongbadTehAwesome Donating Member (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:26 AM
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11. ??
Illinois and Kansas both count, but Missouri doesn't? How do you justify that one geographically?
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:13 AM
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19. Missouri counts.
I put Missouri as one of the states.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:50 AM
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2. My definition:
Hell.
I'm sticking to the coasts.
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:08 AM
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16. LA and NY
If Hell exists on earth, it's those two shit hole cities. Thanks for staying away from Chicago! :hi:
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:09 AM
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18. NYC is Heaven on Earth
Every block, a change of clothes!
A never sleeping city- what else is better?
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:52 AM
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3. You're right
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 01:53 AM by fujiyama
The states that are sometimes referred to as "midwestern states", have little in common with MI, WI, IA, IL, MN, and maybe even OH (though southern OH is pretty conservative).

Culturally they are much more similar to the South. They are socially much more conservative than the midwest.

I think I'd think of them as the Great Plane states. It'd be easier to differentiate them from the other midwestern states.

Of course another designation could be that the states surrounding the great lakes are great lakes states - MI, WI, IL, and OH.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:24 AM
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9. but that
pretty much cuts out the conventional "midwest" :shrug:


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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:57 AM
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4. Oklahoma
Wisconsin, Illinois, Ohio, Minnesota, Michigan, Indiana, Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, So. Dakota, No. Dakota, Iowa. The controversial one for me is Oklahoma. I think Oklahoma is in the Midwest. I have seen it counted as the Southwest and counted as the South. It is most definitely part of the Midwest. Unless you have a geographical region called the Great Plains which works for me too. Oklahoma would then be a part of the Great plains.
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:59 AM
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5. Indiana Indiana Indiana
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:19 AM
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6. Google Images for "Midwest" i got this map
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:20 AM
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7. interesting...
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StrongbadTehAwesome Donating Member (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:27 AM
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12. Yeah, that's pretty much what I consider the Midwest. n/t
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njdemocrat106 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:02 AM
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14. Remove the Dakotas from that map...
and you've got the Midwest, IMO.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:30 AM
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33. This map comports with my lifelong understanding
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:23 AM
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8. i chose the second one
im in ohio, maybe thats the difference. basically, i consider everything north of kentucky, and between the mississippi river and appalachian mountains to be the midwest


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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:26 AM
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10. What the hell is kentucky?
really...i dont consider it the midwest, its not the east, not really the south...????


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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:40 AM
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13. I guess it's concidered southern
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:21 AM
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26. I'd say south
really.
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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:05 AM
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15. All areas of the country where "pop" is used.
How do you like that.... fusion of two totally unrelated polls.
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:09 AM
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17. Pop is used in Chicago only for the most part
Having lived in several different Midwest cities I can tell you I've only heard pop in Chicago.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:15 AM
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20. "Pop" is used in Minnesota and the Dakotas.
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:17 AM
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23. I stand corrected but I've never heard it
in Missouri, Iowa, Indiana, or Wisconsin
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:44 AM
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30. central ohio
we are beligerantly pop:) however, cleveland is soda

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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:31 AM
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31. Admittedly, I've never heard "pop" used in Champaign
At least by natives. The collegiate (U of Illinois) population obviously has some "poppers" among them.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:16 AM
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22. they say pop in western NY though
A friend of mine says pop, god what a fool :D, and hes from near rochester.
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:16 AM
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21. Both are the Midwest, but they split up into Great Plains and Great Lakes
Great Plains: Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri, Iowa, North Dakota, South Dakota, and I would even argue Texas and Oklahoma. I would say the culture of Texas has more in common with Nebraska than it does Louisiana. As for the Dakotas, I would jump to agree with an earlier poster on the idea that they aren't the Midwest and their culture is more in tune with Montana and Idaho, but I wouldn't want to put them in with the Mountain States, it's a tough call.

Great Lakes:
Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana are the Great Lakes.

Another way to put it is states with Big 12 teams vs. states with Big 10 teams. Taking PA's Penn State out and Iowa U being in the Big 10. They also have Iowa State in the Big 12.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:19 AM
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24. But Minnesota doesn't have much in common with Ohio.
Why split Iowa and Minnesota into two different categories??
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:19 AM
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25. Virginia doesn't have too much in common with alabama anymore
that is of course because we're getting to be very diverse.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:22 AM
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28. It's split between the DC suburbs and everywhere else.
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 03:22 AM by SmileyBoy
Kinda like how North Dakota is split between Fargo and everywhere else. That's why all the "out-staters" call us Fargoans "elitist snobs".:eyes:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:23 AM
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29. yeah thats true
even if you go a little to the west out here to loundon county, youre pretty much in the typical south.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:00 AM
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32. I prefer to think of it as
"civilization " (Arlington, Fairfax, Falls Church, Alexandria) vs "the boonies" :evilgrin:


and I'm not so sure about the far edges of Fairfax!


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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:22 AM
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27. Iowa is land locked
Why separate Iowa from Missouri?
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