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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:30 PM
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So...do Jewish men make good boyfriends & lovers?
Am going out with a Jewish guy for the first time. Know nothing about them, really. I haven't even ever heard anything about them in the romance department.

Do Jewish men make good boyfriends & lovers? Anyone know?
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:33 PM
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1. yes we do!
imo
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:54 PM
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39. speaking from experience
I have to concur wholeheartedly!!!!!!
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:34 PM
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45. ::blushing::
i wouldn't lie....

;)
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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:33 PM
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2. They do until their wives find out they're screwing around.
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:33 PM
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3. dupe
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 01:35 PM by fryguy
dam computer acting up....
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:35 PM
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4. as with anything, here is the obligatory
"you can't make a generalization about a whole group of people". so, to answer your question, it depends fully on the individual and their life experiences:)
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dr.strangelove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:37 PM
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5. Generalize away
Jewish men kick ass as boyfriends/lovers. I love a good stereotype when it helps a nice guy out with his love life.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:37 PM
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6. Well....
I dated a Jewish man who made a great boyfriend. I loved him. It's unfortunate that things didn't work out in the end, but he was definitely my favorite boyfriend (excluding my husband, of course).

However, I don't know about any other Jewish men as boyfriends. I only dated the one guy. Whether or not your new boyfriend makes a good boyfriend remains to be seen. Jewish men, like all other men, are individuals.

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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:37 PM
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7. I think this is kind of a racist question.
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:47 PM
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9. Racist? What color are Jewish folks?
:eyes:
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:49 PM
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10. Being Jewish is a race as well as a religion/culture.
Would you prefer the word "Steroetyping" or "bigoted"?
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:51 PM
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12. You are incorrect
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:51 PM
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51. Sorry Chavez
but you are incorrect. There is a certain amount of disagreement on this issue, but most secular Jews, including myself, consider being Jewish to be an ethnicity, if that's alright with you...
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:15 PM
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64. Sorry, babykins...
It is NOT. Unless you be cloistered. :evilgrin:
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:51 PM
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13. It's just semantics. I'm dinging you on your wording.
I figure if you're going to jump into a potential flame-out, you should be armed with a strong vocabulary. :hi:
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:53 PM
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18. Okay.
:hi:
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:35 PM
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46. It's just "semitics"....lol
<<sarcasm>>
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:54 PM
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19. Is Catholicism a race?
Just wondering.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:54 PM
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20. No, of course not.
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:37 PM
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48. then why is Judaism?
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:53 PM
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53. Because there are a lot of secular Jews
Hitler didn't care if my family went to temple or not, you know?
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 05:00 PM
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55. what does that mean?
i can't believe you're going to use the nazi's definition of what constitutes "race"
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 05:03 PM
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56. And I can't believe that I'm
going to let anyone else dictate to me whether or not I have an ethnic background! Oh, wait, I'm not!
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:55 PM
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23. Its a race against SATAN!!!!
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 01:55 PM by ChavezSpeakstheTruth
O8)
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:00 PM
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31. Catholics ARE Satan!
Back when Satan started his church in the 4th century.
I learned it all from the Chick Theological Seminary!
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:02 PM
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34. Oh Christ, Where's me Holy Water?
The rector will be havin' a word with ye Boyo
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:53 PM
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17. race is a disputed concept now anyways; and color does not necessarily
denote race. according to one study i read recently, if we were to literally try to define race based upon a group of reasonable characteristics, there would be thousands of races on the earth. race isn't a real concept; ethnicity/ethnic background are IMHO...
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:51 PM
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11. Can't back you up - Jewish is a religion not a race. Don't confuse semitic
people with the Jewish religion. It is inflamatory and ignorant to ask this stupid question though
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:53 PM
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16. Okey-doke. I agree with Chavez--it is inflammatory and ignorant.
I'll stop trying to find the right word. :)
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:54 PM
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21. Yeah - you are right Janey - no doubt - who asks something like that?
:shrug:
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:56 PM
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26. "So...I'm dating my first black guy, and since they're all the same..."
"tell me, how's this going to go?"

Good lord. :eyes:
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:55 PM
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22. Ethnicity, culture, yes. Race, not so much.
Unless you want the ghost of Sammy Davis Jr. to kick your ass... ;)
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:56 PM
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24. The Candy Man?
:scared:
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:57 PM
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27. You keep saying "not so much"
Clearly you are a Jewy McJewenstein yourself. So do you make a good lover?

:silly:
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:58 PM
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29. Hands off!
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:59 PM
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30. How YOU doin', Chavez?
Live around here much?
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:00 PM
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33. Meh - when I can.
What about Youz?
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:35 PM
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36. You'll have to ask "Lil' Jewy McJewenstien" yourself.
Up close. Mit tongue, leibshen.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:52 PM
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52. As a Jew
I agree
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 05:34 PM
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59. My understanding: Jewish is a religion; most Jewish people are of the
Hebrew or semitic ethnic group. Which the guy I'm seeing is.

Although people can convert to Judaism, that is not the case with this guy. He's Hebrew/semitic - whatever you call it. We commonly refer to it as Jewish.

Sorry. I didn't view that as a bigoted or racist question. Many cultural groups have traits that are particular to that culture. It is not discriminatory to notice that, IMO. It is neither bad nor good. It just is.

I'm of French heritage. There are certain cultural stereotypes that go along with being French, although less applicable to American Frenchies, since we are a much less cohesive and pure cultural/country group than the Jewish are.

No offense intended, though. One could easily ask the same thing about Italians, French, Latinos, etc.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:38 PM
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8. and think of all the presents you'll be getting for Hanukkah
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:52 PM
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14. Well, in my fantasies Jeff Goldblum rocks my world. Not sure that helps
you any, though. *g*
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:52 PM
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15. Some do, some don't
Just like people of any other religion.

:shrug:
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:56 PM
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25. In answer to your question = it is insulting to ask
And you should know better to ask that question on a liberal forum
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 05:37 PM
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60. My understanding: Jewish is a religion; most Jewish people are of the
Hebrew or semitic ethnic group. Which the guy I'm seeing is.

Although people can convert to Judaism, that is not the case with this guy. He's Hebrew/semitic - whatever you call it. We commonly refer to it as Jewish.

Sorry. I didn't view that as a bigoted or racist question. Many cultural groups have traits that are particular to that culture or ethnic group. It is not discriminatory to notice that, IMO. It is neither bad nor good. It just is.

I'm of French heritage. There are certain cultural stereotypes (truths?) that go along with being French, although less applicable to American Frenchies, since we are a much less cohesive and pure cultural/country group than the Jewish are.

No offense intended, though. One could easily ask the same thing about Italians, French, Latinos, etc. People should chill, I think. Some groups want to be a cohesive group and be recognized as such, yet don't want people to recognize them as such, that being supposedly discriminatory.

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 01:58 PM
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28. they're very weLL endowed
if that heLps you at aLL.


sniffawicz
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:48 PM
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37. Sniffeleh, baby!
Come sit by me!
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the Princess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:58 PM
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42. I would agree with that
But just cause their Johnson is big doesn't mean they know how to use it.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:00 PM
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32. Well
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 02:08 PM by Moonbeam_Starlight
um.....

nevermind.

I deleted it.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:05 PM
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35. YAY! I'm a thread killer!
Sorry for killing your thread.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:52 PM
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38. I have had two Jewish boyfriends. N-O spells NO
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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:57 PM
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41. I'm glad to see you don't generalize
:eyes:
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:08 PM
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43. Who is generalizing. My answer is no for these two. Can't talk
about other than these two.
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the Princess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:56 PM
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40. You really can't lump a whole group
of men into "are they good boyfriends" - it's not fair.

I dated a Jewish man who was an abusive drunk and drug addict. :shrug:

However- my Lithuanian/Irish husband is kind caring compassionate loving and a great lover - so I don't think it's about the Ethnicity as much as the man.:loveya:
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:30 PM
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44. No
Jewish MOTHERS make the men who ARE good boyfriends and lovers.

Jewish mothers have got some very strong ju-ju
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:36 PM
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47. there are jews in Texas?
Can we help free them? Are they there of their own valition?

I'm wondering perhaps the kosher deli's in Dallas might not be up to the standards of say, Brighton Beach?

but as to your question, yes, we make great lovers, boyfriends and punching bags.
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:57 PM
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54. 131,000 Jews in Texas, including Michael Dell
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:06 PM
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62. Please don't remind me that Michael Dell is a
MOT (member of the tribe). Oy vey! Why must he be a pug? Why must he be a jerk? I wonder if his wife is Jewish....

A friend of mine said that Ken Lay is also Jewish...is this true?
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 03:45 AM
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65. Michael Dell is not all bad
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 03:46 AM by LDS Jock
He did donate tons of money for the 40 acre Dell Jewish Center (and land is not cheap in that part of town). He and his wife Susan also have the Michael and Susan Dell Foundation charity www.msdf.org which recently made a $25 million dollar donation to the new Children's Medical Center of Texas. I don't know if his wife Susan is Jewish or not. Ken Lay I did search for on www.jewhoo.com and no results came up. If you haven't been to that site before, check it out. I find it interesting to see just who is and who isn't Jewish, plus learn a little something about them. My point from all this is just to stick up for Michael a little. Yes he is a huge republican donor, but he does do good in other places. If only more republicans were like him.
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 05:12 PM
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58. largest single congregation in the US
is temple emanu-el in dallas (or so i've been told)
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:47 PM
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49. sure
The first lover I had was Jewish and personality wise we didn't mesh (and were too young to get too serious), but I would have to say, sexually speaking (so far in my life anyway), he was really good.
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:48 PM
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50. Traditional Mediterranean cultures can have women issues.
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 04:51 PM by patcox2
Gosh I hope its not racist or bigoted to discuss observable characteristics of different cultures. Some cultures accord women more equality, some less. Some cut off their clitorises so they can't have orgasms.

"Jewish" is a very non-specific description, it does not really identify the particular culture, depends on many factors such as whether ashkenazi or sepphardic and even then, cultural traits are affected by where they spent the diaspora, as it were, or when emigrated to the US. Reform, Conservative, or hassidic, all different. NY city intellectual is a whole nother culture. But traditional, as in going back centuries, mediterranean cultures (including the middle eastern part of the med) tend to share some characteristics, (like the macho role for males, and a submissive role for women) that can be an issue, depending on the extent the individual in question has received any of these cultural traits from his forebears. Which the individual may or may not have received, depending on a huge number of things.
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 05:09 PM
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57. i reeeeeeeeeeeeeelly wouldn't know
i don't hear many complaints from my freinds' gf's. Although I did know a few guys in Hillel who had no conception of fidelity.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 05:56 PM
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61. "Them"?
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 05:56 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
Jewish men aren't some monolithic group. That's like asking, "Do black men make good boyfriends/lovers?".

In other words, it's ridiculous.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:11 PM
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63. Thank God (or G_d) this was an actual question
Because when I saw the title of the thread, I thought the old "Tonto Goldstein" joke was coming. Oy Vey!
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