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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:18 PM
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Poll question: Best Quarterback-Receiver Duo Of All Time
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Sympleesmshn Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:21 PM
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1. How bout...
Anyone throwing to Rice
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:23 PM
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2. Even Trent Dilfer (nt)
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:04 PM
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9. How about Stabler to Bilitnikoff?
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:24 PM
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3. Fouts/Joiner
Throw in the greatest TE of all time, Kellen Winslow, and you have got the excitement of Air Coryell.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:03 PM
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26. fouts/jefferson..
my sentimental favorite.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:43 PM
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43. YES
Him too. I loved Jefferson.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:25 PM
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4. Before I clicked the link and saw your choices, I said to myself ...
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 08:25 PM by BattyDem
"Joe Montana and Jerry Rice"

I loved watching those two ... and I'm a Giants fan!
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:28 PM
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5. No Aikman-Irvin?
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 08:28 PM by NewHampshireDem
Are 750 passes for 11,904 yards and 65 touchdowns chopped liver?
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VTdem Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:22 PM
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12. I agree Aikman-Irvin has to be on there.
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Champ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:30 PM
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6. I would replace Cunningham with Culpepper
In the league today it is Donovan McNabb and Terrell Owens

Of all time without a question: Montana/Rice
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:31 PM
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7. Have to go with Montana Rice too...
but a couple others to consider...

Staubach and the Pearsons
Stabler - Biletnikoff

Sid
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:36 PM
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19. Stabler was the man...
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 09:37 PM by BullGooseLoony
I got my step-dad, a die-hard Raider fan an autographed picture of Stabler for Christmas a few years back...he damned near broke down. The picture was of a game against Minnesota, I believe, that the Raiders won. Don't remember which one it was, but it was a pretty important one.

Has it hanging up in his office, now. :)
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:40 PM
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8. bradshaw/swann. the montana/rice voters must be too young to see straight
montana/rice was certainly a nice combo, but much of their magic had to do with the fact that they were NOT the greatest combo ever. they failed to connect enough to make it dramatic, yet always seemed to pull it out in the clutches. this made for wonderful games from a spectator point of view, highly dramatic. but less than ideal from a coach's standpoint.

bradshaw/swann had it where others lacked it, and that combo worked largely due to sheer improvisation and athleticism on bradshaw's part and swann's superglue grip and an ability to really take the hit on the way down and hold on to the ball.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:31 PM
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15. and that the 1970's Steelers were above all running teams
Both Bradshaw and Swann were great players, but they weren't central to their team's success. The Steelers won because of their great defense and running game. While the occasional (and very well timed) pass was necessary, I wouldn't go so far as to call Bradshaw-Swann the greatest QB-WR combo ever.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:03 PM
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25. but that's my point. bradshaw/swann did it themselves
montana/rice had the benefit of an entire team geared toward the pass. montana often had all the time in the world to find the open man. bradshaw, on the other hand, often found swann on broken plays.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:08 PM
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29. They can't be the GREATEST if they weren't central to their team's success
I'm not saying they weren't great. I just don't think an essentially secondary part of any offense can be considered the greatest anything of all time.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:12 PM
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31. that's a bit of results mongering.
they would have had more impressive numbers if they had the front line for passing. but their front line was built for rushing instead. but if you say that takes away from the qb/wr combo, then you're saying that the question really is who's the greatest qb/wr/line combo. but that's not the question.

given the same line, i'd put my money on bradshaw/swann over any other qb/wr combo.
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:05 PM
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10. Montana-Rice, although I also like Montana-Clark
THE CATCH!!!!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:34 PM
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17. Young-Owens has the same prevalence....just IMHO...
As the quintessential Niner fan.

Montana-Clark was the beginning of it all, though....
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:19 PM
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11. frank ryan - gary collins
well, maybe not, but frank did have a phd in mathematics.
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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:24 PM
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13. Cunningham/Moss?
Seriously, who voted for that? If you're going to put that up there, you may as well include Majkowski/Sharpe. Or Favre/Freeman.

I agree, Aikman/Irvin should definitely be on there.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:25 PM
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14. Randy Moss Is A Spetactular Receiver....
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 09:26 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
The combination of size and speed is awesome...
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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:46 PM
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21. Cunningham started for Minnesota for less than a year and a half....
...that's my point. To include Cunningham/Moss but exclude Aikman/Irvin is ridiculous. Aikman/Irvin won three Super Bowls. There's no contest.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:32 PM
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16. LOL there's no contest here!
People got it right.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:44 PM
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20. Much over rated
It was the system (and it was a good one) not the personnel
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:56 PM
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23. ROFL!!!! Look at Rice's numbers...
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 10:01 PM by BullGooseLoony
Then look at the next man down.

Then laugh your ass off. ;)

On edit: It doesn't take people 15 years to adjust to such a ridiculously successful strategy. Look at Howard Dean- he got it in less than 8.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:05 PM
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28. Look at Eric Dickerson's numbers
was he the best RB in the 80's/early 90's?

Who is leading the NFL in sacks right now?

Numbers.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:13 PM
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32. You obviously haven't looked.
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 10:15 PM by BullGooseLoony
Here are his career stats:

***G Rec Yds. Y/G Avg. Lng YAC 1stD TD!!

299 1541 22818 76.3 14.8 96 2.2 554 196

If you can find ANYONE- I mean ANYONE. NEAR that. NEAR IT. ANYWHERE NEAR IT.

Let me know. ;)

P.S. Start with Cris Carter. Good luck.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:30 PM
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33. Just across the Bay
Tim Brown had to look over at Rice and think "what could have been".

BTW- Rice is a jackass. He has completely diowned his community roots his school (Mississippy Valley State) and his family.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:33 PM
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34. Whaa?
What are you talking about?

Yeah, I think he should be retired by now, and I know he can sometimes be a dick in person...but...the guy is....probably the best PLAYER to ever play the game, if you judge by how far he's separated from others in his position.

He has about 20 records that are never...I mean NEVER...going to be broken...on top of about 40 records that he simply has.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:37 PM
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35. I'd take Brown, Monk, Alworth, Carmichael, hell Taylor over him any day
he was in the right place at the right time that doesn't make him special.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:44 PM
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37. K, your only argument there is Brown...
and, by that I assume you mean JIM Brown, not Tim....LOL....

Dude. You still haven't looked at the numbers.

Really...you should do that. I'm serious.

I know. You think I'm messing with you, playing an ego trip. Look at Rice's career numbers (which I just posted for you) or his individual year stats at Yahoo! and simply compare. To any of them.

..............


Just-

............
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:54 PM
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39. Okay let's compare Linebacker/punter stats against Paul Maguire
Sheesh.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:58 PM
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40. Well, no, seriously, you had an argument with Jim Brown
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 10:59 PM by BullGooseLoony
because he just retired early. In his own words, he was just too good for the game. Had about 8 years under his belt, I believe.

But, Rice...if your criteria for "Best Player Ever" is being unbelievably beyond all other players playing the position, you might have a candidate, there.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:03 PM
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41. Lawrence Taylor
start from there and work backwards-Favre, Marino, John Hannah, the Dallas O-line of the early 90's, ....Rice is somewhere down in the middle.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:41 PM
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42. Nope. Lawrence Taylor isn't even the best DE ever. nr
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ydya Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:36 PM
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18. Neil O'Donell (Steelers) - Larry Brown (Cowboys).
Damn, Neil, we had that SuperBowl. I'm still pissed off.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:49 PM
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22. We played "Namath to Maynard" as a kid but NOTE-Pennigton to Moss
at Marshall, granted playing well above their competition but it was quite incredible to watch-LIVE!

BTW- Pennington only ended up at Marshall because of an uncle knowing someone and he was third string until the first game of his Freshman year at UT-Chattanooga because #'s 1 & 2 got hurt. The rest is history. He sat out his Sophmmore year to let a transfer play (and win the National Championship).
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:02 PM
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24. Favre-Sharpe would have been the best if Sterling had not gotten
injured. None of the above.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:05 PM
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27. (snort) Really, people, I'm trying not to laugh, here.
And you know I think you're the greatest, Mrs.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:11 PM
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30. How about Bart Starr - Boyd Dowler n/t
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:37 PM
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36. Theismann-Monk denied.
eom
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:46 PM
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38. It's all denied if it
doesn't have Jerry Rice somewhere in the equation.

Seriously. It's Montana or Young + Rice. Montana, really. That's just the way it works.
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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:14 AM
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44. Jim Kelly - Andre Reed Belongs On The List Too
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