Anyone having any Pro-Bush moments lately?

This is so weird, and very disturbing to me. My mother has been very outspoken against Bush for the last year and a half, and very anti-war. Now, very suddenly, over the last month, she's become Bush-supportive, and pro-war. She went from very ANTI-war, to very PRO-war. She went from HATING Bush, to SUPPORTING him.

WTF?!?!

This is not like my mother at all. Once she makes up her mind about something, she rarely changes it. She isn't concerned with vote fraud, even after looking at all the evidence. She says it will eventually swing back to the Dems, that they can't stack the vote forever. I KNOW she gets it. She is a very intelligent woman who right after the election sat there and told me about vote fraud over 300 years of US History, and that this was fraud too (and then she was all gung-ho about doing something about it).

She's gone from caring a whole lot to NOT caring. I DON'T understand it. If you knew her, and knew just HOW anti-war she was, and how anti-Bush she was, you'd agree.

In the last two months, I've noticed weird thoughts that will just spring into my head, and it's always when I'm watching TV. One night, I was in bed drifting off to sleep, faintly listening to a TV commercial when I had the weirdest thought:

"You know, Bush isn't all that bad. He's actually a pretty nice guy, I bet. He's just trying to protect us."

And after that, I sat staight up and was like 'WTF DID I JUST THINK?!?!'

And it's happened since then, but only when watching TV. I don't watch much TV at all, I am rarely home since about mid-November. And the weird thoughts stopped too.

I mean, does anyone think it's possible that they're sending us subliminal messages or something? I know that in movie theaters they used to have a single frame of some popcorn and coke, but it was too fast for someone to consciously notice. But it had the desired effect, sales went up. I know advertisers still use methods like that.

But does anyone think that they're doing something like that to keep the people in line? I just don't know how else to explain my mom's polar shift in attitude...

Has anyone else had any family or friends do similar things?

"my husband loves me...he hits me because i disobey...if i just did what he asked he wouldn't hit me..."

i think a lot of people just don't want to fully comprehend what we have to deal with over the next 4 years

Although I think maybe some folk are looking at the reality of the situation and saying it's just plain easier to get along than to expend all that energy fighting against something that isn't going to change....

a couple of times on these threads and have had no input at all about them. I think they use them, visual and audio ones.
If someone would tape some Fox news, CNN news and then run it frame by frame, I'll bet it's there hiding on us.

so far--- no go on it.Although if you watch Fux Nuze all the time,severe brain damage results within days.
I have studied up on E.LF.s and alot of the stuff our tax dollars go for (yikes) the guys that come up with the stuff are pretty out to lunch,they try some exepensive stuff but forget the human brain is both anolog & digital. The masking/backwards masking in music is a goof and all the stuff about print ads having sub-messages and t.v. are good to watch out for,but alot of the creeps are just trying it to see if it works.I love this kind of stuff because there is good research trying to uncover some evil plans although most of them don't work.

but I'm not sure which shows use them. Someone should be looking into fundyshit TV too...

The whole thing with the movie theater and the increased sales of popcorn and Coke was a big fraud.

http://www.snopes.com/business/hidden/popcorn.asp

No one's ever proven that subliminal messages work or have any effect on people.

Figure out your place in the new reality of 4 more friggin' years. I think it's a natural reaction to go along to get along, that battered spouse syndrome in there too. It's hard to live in constant anger. It's also hard to continue fighting if you've had such hope for change. The answer is detachment, love your country, detach from the emotional rollercoaster of the Bush nightmare. Figure out how to move forward on the path you care the most about. You do it because it's right, no matter the results. That sort of thing. Don't worry, you're just going through a normal grief process I think. Your mom, she'll probably come back around too.

Basically, it's about how much determination you have.

Guts Ball, Timebound.

...to convince people to not let him have a second term. I was focused on that for a year and a half but like, now it doesn't matter. I've gotta be honest and say that I don't think everything he's ever done or will do politically is harmful, and maybe now I have some space to notice that. Actually I thought his whole thing about going to Mars was cool. And I wasn't one of those 7% or 8% of people that still disapproved of him after 9/11. Doesn't mean I would go back and change my vote, or that I'll vote with the Republicans next time, or that I won't work to get the rest of them put out of office next election, it's just that I approach him differently now that there's nothing we can do.

See what station she has on in her car.
And suggest she drink bottled water.

Good Luck

Something like that did happen to me during the debates.

same thing crossed my mind faintly after the first debate. For a few minutes, I thought, "I can see why people like him".

Granted the thought died just a few nights later....

Now I make sure that I don't turn watch anything beside the cartoon network.

...TV is conditioning her.

I've had a couple of the moments you're(O.P.) describing and now that I think about it, it has been watching t.v. I don't know if I'd say it was due to subliminal messages or if it was more just as a result of being under tremendous stress. The constant extreme disbelief I experience at watching the news become so twisted and skewed to "fit into" a certain point of view while the truth goes unsaid...I think just gets to me sometimes. I did have very violent, abusive parents and the way things are going lately particularly with the loss of any form of free press, there are many parallels between what's going on nationally and what it's like to live in an abusive household.

But the second I have those moments, I'm conscious of it like you were and I say to myself WTF??? Then I refocus on letting go of fear and connect with like minded people.

We're supposed to accept Bush because one way or the other he ended up being president? We are supposed to excuse the fact that he is destroying our country and our low-income and middle class families?

We're supposed to accept the fact that he is killing our kids without reason while his supporters reap profits they could have of never dreamed?

We're supposed to excuse the fact that he did away with Christ's Golden Rule?

Just how much do people like to be battered? It's not for me.

I know it all sounds sci-fi, but you know what, what if what Timebound suggests (mass hypnosis through electricty) is true. What then?

a coping mechanism.

After all, subconciously you've got to convince yourself somehow to accept the results and whether his win was legitimate or not, he'll be back for another four years.

So you start looking for things you do like about him, ignoring the million things you hate.

I want to fight, I just can't. I don't watch the news anymore. I know the outcome, I need a break.

Some people want to be on the winning team. My sisters kid does this all the time. Is White or Blue winning? Blue. Go blue.

'cause the dementia is setting in

messages it should definitely be checked into. My God, that's the scariest thing I have heard so far - but it would fit right in, wouldn't it? What frightens me is that some people here and not just one of you are reporting this. If they're really doing this then all is lost. That is one thing that can't be fought because everything happens on the subconscious level. In Germany that is forbidden for which I'm grateful - but let's see for how long. And - well, NO TV is always the best solution. I've been doing without for 15 years now and I can't say that I miss a thing.

of l'il Georgy.

It's understandable.

It's too terrifying to think he might have ill-intent, and it's exhausting.

Get her a subscription to The Nation as antidote.

I actually had a pro-Bush moment the other day when it occured to me what a great batch of Soylent Green he'd make.

I would go out of my mind if I had to deal with someone in my life who adopted that attitude. I don't watch television unless it's a good series that has been released on DVD. Maybe that's why??

Did you look for a 'pod' under her bed?

That's one of the first things to check for when an older person suddenly goes off the wall.

How old is the dear woman?

A) your mom may be doing this as a way of dealing with the inevitable (another four years of the lying murderous bastard).

B) turn off your TV, shut off your cable or satellite if you have to.

I have never had a single thought like that. Get help. Good luck. :hug: