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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:52 PM
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i'm really p'od with Clinton over this
from Financial Times today:
"At home, the sight of the Republican president two months after a bruising election working alongside Mr Clinton, the Democratic party's best-known and most beloved son, also enables Mr Bush to demonstrate a bi-partisanship in Washington and spirit of national unity in the face of disaster that his critics say he squandered since September 11 2001.

On Monday afternoon, having made his statement on the tsunami fund-raising drive flanked by one former Republican and one former Democrat president, Mr Bush could present himself as a man astride the party system. “This town is sometimes too partisan and too political,” he said. “My hope is . . . we can show the nation that we can come together to achieve big things for the good of the country.”

:eyes:

The 109th Congress, which convened on Tuesday in Washington, is likely to reveal rather quickly how brittle that bipartisanship is in a city dominated by an assertive Bush White House with an aggressive conservative agenda."
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damn the Big Dog for giving * a perfect photo op for his followers - oh lookie - our GW is sure a good godly man, he is truly ABOVE PARTISAN POLITICS therefore anything that goes wrong will be because of those damn DEM obstructionists.
:grr:
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:55 PM
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1. He looked pained during the initial announcement ...
But it was kind of sickening the way he joked with "41" afterward during their joint interviews. Don't get too close to those people, Bill -- you're gonna get burned.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:56 PM
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2. So, you would rather the
tsunami victims go without aid and suffer even more, and our national image suffer even more, just to save Bush from looking good? That's ridiculous. God knows I feel about Bush the same way everyone else here does, and I feel very strongly about it, but there are times when feelings like that have to be put aside, both sides need to come together and achieve some good for the benefit of millions, and this is one of them.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:57 PM
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3. Thanks...
I've been seeing way too many posts like this original one today, and somebody had to say what you did. Maybe others did and I just didn't see it, but yours is the first one I've read.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:14 PM
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9. I agree with you
I can't understand some of the posts I've seen on this.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:00 PM
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5. Very well said
I was going to say something similar, but you did it first and better. We really need to put aside partisanship and help these people out. This is a tragedy for a large chunk of humanity and it is doubtful that the people who are suffering care anything about politics when their very survival is at stake.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:04 PM
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6. That's certainly true,
politics means nothing to these people right now, when they've lost everything, including families, and when they're desperately trying just to survive. And let's not forget that there are a few thousand Americans missing, with most presumed dead, as well.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:57 PM
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4. Close to 100,000 people died.
If Bill wants to help them, we shouldn't bitch at him because he's not playing hard ball.
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:06 PM
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7. Thank you
And it's over 150,000 dead now. Somehow, I think that might be more important than politics.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:06 PM
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8. Clinton is doing what he is doing to help the Tsunami victims
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:16 PM
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10. not that he's HELPING the people - hell - he could've done THAT
without BUSH.

now couldn't he? You think Clinton couldn't have garnered attention and donations without aiding the shrub?
:wtf:
now THAT is all i was saying. GET A GRIP people. Like *I* am against helping the victims of this tragedy?

jeez. CONSIDER THE OBVIOUS, would you?

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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:19 PM
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12. oh and EVRYTHING is about the POLITICS
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 04:21 PM by peacebird
bush's initial dollar value was less than his coronation balls - when the outrage happened someone had the brilliant idea that this would be a chance to polish americas image with the muslims and the world

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/04/international/worldspecial4/04cnd-powe.html

his own daddy said that on Tuesday.

repukes understand this and we dems get played for patsies by letting them steal the thunder.

the Big Dog should've joined with Carter and done something on their own.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:17 PM
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11. As far as I'm concerned, Clinton is doing the right thing...
Neither bush's could care less about the victims of the earthquake and resulting tsunamis; with Clinton in there helping in a public way, more aid will get to the victims of this disaster. If it were left up to bush...he'd chop wood and sleep through the whole thing, dreaming about a way to make a buck off the suffering.
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