Holly Tornado...Hail and Snow in Phoenix....

We've never had a Tornado. I got hail outside my door and parts of Phoenix are reporting snow.

it snowed in laredo & all over south texas on christmas eve/christmas day. folks in town have lots of pics of it. now it's pushing 90.

nope, no such thing as global warming.

dg

Something ain't right about our weather lately. We're in the first week of January here in Pittsburgh and we've had sun and in the 50's except yesterday.

:wtf:

Now we have a winter storm warning for at least tomorrow. Bad weather headed our way. Argh.

It would happen on my day off.

damn weather here is like playing the lottery!

a flood warning and a winter storm warning too!! I have heard rain, ice and 4-7" of snow for my area (at least on the 6 oclock) it will change at 11 I'm sure...

(Or at least it was in Iowa. Very mild temperatures, too.)

We're getting snow now. We didn't exactly have a white Christmas. Then it warmed up, and then it drizzled and froze into slippery-smooth ice a few days ago.

Last year, we got dumped on, quite a bit of snow, around late Feb/early March. It was fun driving. Not a lot of people were out and about, mostly 4-wheel drivers... And me, in my '92 Grand Prix, sliding around in slippery snow that was nearly to my bumpers. I didn't get unstuckably stuck, but that's because I got skills :)

actaully, there might be a scientific reason for this, my 16yr old bro brought this up to me when I was wondering why I was hearing a thunderstorm at my house here in Ohio just the other night when it was raining for a couple of days. He said something about that the tectonic plates that moved in the ocean causing the sunami did so with such force that it probably knocked the earth off it's axis by like a cm or so, enough to cause it to tilt ever so slightly and cause climate change.

He never ceases to amaze me, good at math and science, try to get the boy to read or be interested in anything else other than FFXI and his lvl 62 PLD, forget it!

No snow here in the mountains of Idaho.

http://en.rian.ru/rian/index.cfm?prd_id=160&msg_id=5265310&startrow=1&date=2004-12-29&do_alert=0

The word is that the earths axis shifts a little anyway and it should cause and "long term" damage. But there are so many other factors affecting our weather these days.

but snow?? maybe on Camelback

my thermometer is showing 48 degrees in NW Phoenix

never seen that before, and it just continues to rain and rain and rain. Thunderstorms and lightning too - which is also rare.

hail throughout Phoenix. Of couse, we're also under water due to the two weeks of steady rain, and more to come. Yes, bring on the rain for Phoenix.

I heard loud noises outdoors, looked out the patio window, my yard was filled with hail. What in the hell is happening to our weather, rained for two days straight. This was strange, the sky clear, the sky turned blue, the sun came out, then all of a sudden.... hail! It is cold and damp out there. I didn't see the snow, but the hail, wow! I have pictures, just don't know how to send them to you.

Now, granted, I've only lived here since 1985. . . . . .


It snowed at Sky Harbor in December 1985 for the first time in almost 50 years. I was on my way to work at 6 a.m. and saw it hitting the windshield. Radio announcer was saying it was rain, and I yelled at him "That white stuff ain't rain, moron!" Then he came back on and said it was snow.

It snowed in Phoenix -- 28th St & Camelback -- in the early afternoon of Good Friday 1991. There was substantial snow on the southern White Tanks. I believe this was the storm that trapped a couple of hikers at the top of Estrella Mountain overnight.

Snow on the Superstitions, southern Bradshaws, Estrellas, and White Tanks is not unheard of. It usually happens once every couple of years. Snow in the "higher elevations" of Cave Creek, Carefree, and north Scottsdale is rare, but it does happen.

Winter rains -- even heavy winter rains -- are normal for central Arizona. Weather pattern brings in moisture from the Pacific. Summer rains -- monsoon -- come from the Gulf.

Almost all the rivers in Arizona are dammed. I believe the San Pedro in southern Arizona is the only free-flowing major stream in the state. Prior to reclamation projects, the Salt, Gila, Verde, Agua Fria and other major rivers all flowed as rain (or melting snow) moved through the watershed. The rarity of flow is now exclusively human-created.

The current water releases from the upstream Salt River dams are likely being made in order to prevent a recurrence of the bridge-collapsing flood of the mid 1990s, when Salt River Project engineers waited too long to let water out of the reservoirs and the resulting cascade hit the Tempe bridge, then under construction, with more water than it could handle. It collapsed during the evening newscast.

The upper Mississippi valley was hit with an unusual string of storms in 1993, but the area has been virtually "normal" ever since.

I'm not trying to deny global warming, since I do happen to believe it's a very real problem. But rain and snow in Phoenix are not portents of the end of the world.


Tansy Gold, who knows y'all are just teasin', but she likes to put things into perspective anyway. ;-)

Happens when the moon is very close to the earth. Apparently this is quite rare- last one was in '93. Brings with it freaky weather- heavy rains, mudslides and et(usually within several day period around the actual date). Stay safe folks!

;-)

10 MYTHS about Global Warming
Don't believe these commonly heard statements:

* It isn't really happening (documented science overwhelmingly shows temperatures rising rapidly)

* It's natural (temperature increases, especially since the 1970's, are far above natural variations)

* Any effects well be very gradual (not only are severe storms getting stronger, but climate history shows sharp climate changes can occur abruptly, in only a few years)

* It does not affect the U.S. (the U.S. is experiencing rising sea levels, more severe storms and droughts, die-off of forests, altered animal migrations, and loss of glaciers such as those in Glacier National Park)

* It will be good for us (some areas may become more pleasantly warm, but the cost of negative effects will far outweigh any benefits; disease and heat deaths are increasing)

* Agriculture will benefit (CO2 may make some crops grow faster, but also will accelerate weeds, pests and droughts; crops may not grow well where they once did as climate zones shift.)

* It's being handled by our government (The current U.S. Administration advocates studying, not dealing with, global warming; its energy policy completely based on burning more coal & oil. Most state and local governments are unprepared for major changes)

* It's not a big deal compared to national security (Global warming is actually the most serious threat to the widest range of human concerns. Our national and world security is directly threatened by negative climate effects on weather, water supply, disease, agriculture, marine resources, and health)

* Technology will solve the problem for us (Massive "fixes" like burying greenhouse gases are very unlikely, but many smaller changes can make a difference AND are available now)

* There's nothing to be done anyway

www.worldviewofglobalwarming.org/pages/actions.html

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I think I have heard all of these in the last year.

In 1974, and in the late 80s. Rare, but not unheard of. And every few years there's real snow in Tucson. I remember one day in 1987 when it snowed all day, and stuck to the ground in enough volume to make snowmen. :) Of course, Phoenix is at a lower altitude.

On edit: Not suggesting there's no global warming, just wandering down memory lane

at the end of 1987, and in December (it may have been between Christmas and New Year's) my husband was in Tucson for business. It snowed so hard that he got confused, took a wrong turn onto I10 and didn't realize he was going in the wrong direction until the visibility cleared up enough to see that he was north of the Catalina Mountains!

This was a storm that pounded Denver with snow, went down to drop a load on Arizona, then came back north and hit Denver again.