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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:11 PM
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What races is it socially acceptable to be racist about?
I would start with the Germans, Scots, Irish, maybe the Mexicans and Afrikaaners, maybe the Japanese. What say you?

What i'm getting at is - what races can people make jokes and derogatory references to without facing social disapproval?
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:12 PM
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1. i think white males have been fair game for a while
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:12 PM
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2. whites only
just like the old Jim Crow laws LOL
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:49 AM
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30. Unbelievable
that's all I can say about this post. Simply unbelievable!
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:12 PM
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3. Ummmm....NASCAR?
That's the only one I come up with...


:evilgrin:
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:14 PM
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6. Boston Marathon
*!%*@! chowdah heads! :)
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:15 PM
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7. O.K....you got me.
PETA would probably include the Kentucky Derby too.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:30 PM
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23. Yah, NASCAR is allowable, but Formula One is off limits.
Poor, downtrodden F1.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:32 PM
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27. Agreed. I like watching F1.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:18 PM
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14. Not ALL. Woody Allen, for example, is a Protestant, frontin' as Jewish.
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jellybelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:19 PM
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17. really?
:scared:
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:22 PM
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19. Yep. His real name is Woodrow Allen Cabot.
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:13 PM
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5. Those are more cultural than racial
I don't think any race can be degraded.

Cultures? All are fair game.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:15 PM
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8. No, I think the Germans in particular can be referred to in racist fashion
without much in the way of repercussion.

I should add the Quebecois and Native North Americans to the list.
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:17 PM
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13. Germans? That's a nationality, not a race
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:19 PM
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16. I would classify the Germans as a race.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:29 PM
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22. They aren't a race. Caucasian is a race. German is a nationality.
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 11:30 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:32 PM
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26. By your definition perhaps - I consider them a race.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:38 PM
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29. But they aren't a race. That you consider them a race doesn't matter.
And if you are considering them a race for the purposes of this conversation then you are simply trying to manipulate a point (and I mean this with no hostility)
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:55 AM
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32. My opinion matters more than anyone else in the world.
So there.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 03:31 PM
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39. In my opinion
You're opinion is worthless. Just my opinion.

You are also trolling.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 03:34 PM
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42. Did you hear that Wat? You're trolling!
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 03:58 PM
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48. they are an ethnicity, not a race
just like there are different ethnicities of asians like Laotian or Japanese, there are different caucasians like Teutonic, Roman, Celtic or Slavic.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 03:55 PM
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46. Yes. They are Teutonic as opposed to Slavic or Celtic or Semitic
all are white races, similar race but seperate ethnic groups
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:18 PM
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15. I think I misunderstand the question
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 04:28 PM
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56. I hope you're being facetious
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:15 PM
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9. It is socially accpetable to fight power..unless you think this song was
racist against Nazi's:

When Der Fuehrer says, "We ist der master race"
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Der Fuehrer's face
Not to love Der Fuehrer is a great disgrace
So we HEIL! HEIL! Right in Der Fuehrer's face
When Herr Gobbels says, "We own der world und space"
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Herr Goring's face
When Herr Goring says they'll never bomb this place
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Herr Goring's face

Are we not the supermen
Aryan pure supermen
Ja we ist der supermen
Super-duper supermen
Ist this Nutzi land not good?
Would you leave it if you could?
Ja this Nutzi land is good!
Vee would leave it if we could

We bring the world to order
Heil Hitler's world New Order
Everyone of foreign race will love Der Fuehrer's face
When we bring to der world disorder

When Der Fuehrer says, "We ist der master race"
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Der Fuehrer's face
When Der Fuehrer says, "We ist der master race"
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Der Fuhrer's face
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:17 PM
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11. Ah....I can hear the Bronx Cheers in all the appropriate places...
...gotta love Spike Jones. :)
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Rockerdem Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:16 PM
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10. None. There is no benign racism
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:17 PM
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12. That's not what I mean - it's not a moral question.
What I mean is - what will society accept?
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Rockerdem Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:22 PM
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18. If it accepts it, its not "society"
Sorry, not playing.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:24 PM
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20. Any reason for the weird passive-agressive tone?
Clearly our society accepts racism.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:24 PM
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21. By your definition then, there IS no society.
If there's a culture totally free of bigotry, prejudice and parochialism, point me in that direction, please.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 03:56 PM
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47. I'd like to see that
bigotry is rampant all over the world, in different forms
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:30 PM
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24. Sneeches. Especially the star-bellied ones.
They're so uppity!

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:31 PM
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25. I fucking hate them!
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:35 PM
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28. I prefer no RACISM at all
I judge people on a case-by-case basis. Actually, I try not to judge them at all unless they've done something to hurt me. I'm white and am much more critical of many of my fellow whites than I ever would be of other races.

I took a class called US Races and the Justice System in my second year of law school. While I consider myself pretty tolerant and open-minded and cognizant of other races' struggles, I learned things in that class I never knew before. I highly recommend classes of this nature; they really make you see where others are coming from.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:50 AM
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31. Excellent post and thanks
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ThorsHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:44 AM
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38. Me too, but pop. culture would say whites, gays, Southerners, and fat ppl.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:02 AM
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33. Hmmmmm
Technically speaking those aren't races... but for the sake of argument I'll say that it does seem to be socially acceptable to make scathing jokes and derogatory comments in general about those nationalities, yes. As far as what other nationalities can be insulted or slammed on without much repurcussion, I'd add the English and the French.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:20 AM
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34. it would depend on whoever is the powerful majority in the country
so whites in this country

hindus in india etc
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:39 AM
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35. Ku Klux Klan
Oh wait, they're racist. Not a race. :silly:
I would say Scots, Irish and Aggies. I am all three so I'm entitled. Believe me, Aggies are most certainly a race.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 03:38 PM
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44. Yup! I agree!
Aggies are fair game! :P
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:42 AM
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36. well, heer in 'Murka
its the French.

:eyes:
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 03:33 PM
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40. New Hampshire is 30% Franco-American
or so they said on West Wing least night
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 03:36 PM
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43. wull, thats part of that librul taxachusets!
:crazy:
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 04:30 PM
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58. what do you expect from Northeast elitists?
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:44 AM
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37. Scots
feckers!
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 03:34 PM
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41. Republicans n/t
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 03:50 PM
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45. people who live in trailer parks
You know: those people. :eyes:

Many detractors, few defenders.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 03:59 PM
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50. white trash is the new scapegoat
rich white people and poor black people can hate the same enemy now: po' white trash
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 03:59 PM
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49. Ferengi
I mean, c'mon; all the men are well-endowed? Yeah, pull the other one, it's got bells on....
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 04:06 PM
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51. I'm grateful that some here think this post is not the best ever.
I'm also grateful for some pointing out that "German" is not a race.

For those who need ecucation:

Hitler thought they were a race. A very special caucasian race.

I find it very astonishing however that on DU - a political forum - some assume that all of you are "white Americans". Probably all male, too.

I know that I'm a guest here and should tread lightly. But I really am not amused.


--------------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 04:24 PM
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53. Ich auch nicht, liebling.
Ich lese nur MIST hier. :puke:
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 04:29 PM
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57. Teutonic isn't a race, but it is an ethnic group
So they aren't entirely off the mark, just confused as to the proper terminology

As a person of Russian descent, I am ethically slavic, racially caucasian.
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Lenape85 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 04:20 PM
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52. Whites of course
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 04:26 PM
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54. I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU FORGOT POLAND!!!!
Hey, somebody had to, it might as well have been me. :evilgrin:
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 04:27 PM
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55. The Indianapolis 500 and Kentucky Derby. n/t
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 04:33 PM
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59. It's sad that this is still a question that can be asked.
When will be able to accept people with out labeling them as a certain race, and why should we want to make fun of any certain racial, ethnic, or sexual background. That is just wrong IMHO.

:-(
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Ivan Sputnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 04:53 PM
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60. Martians
but only because there (apparently) aren't any.


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