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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:15 PM
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Dulce et decorum est, pro patria mori
(it is sweet and right to die for your country)

Owen touched on the reality of war nearly 90 years ago, it's true still. My grandfather had comrades who were present on the first day of the Somme offensive. He told me tales of men walking over fields of dead men, walking over their corpses. True story.

"Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.

Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling,
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime . . .
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori."

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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:18 PM
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1. Beautiful, horrible poetry
Owen was killed a week before the Armistice was signed. What a tragic loss.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:28 PM
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2. The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner
From my mother's sleep I fell into the State,
And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.
Six miles from earth, loosed from the dream of life,
I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.
When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.

-- Randall Jarrell
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:37 PM
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3. "MCMXIV"
by Philip Larkin. WW1 poetry speaks from the heart.

"Those long uneven lines
Standing as patiently
As if they were stretched outside
The Oval or Villa Park,
The crowns of hats, the sun
On moustached archaic faces
Grinning as if it were all
An August Bank Holiday lark;

And the shut shops, the bleached
Established names on the sunblinds,
The farthings and sovereigns,
And dark-clothed children at play
Called after kings and queens,
The tin advertisements
For cocoa and twist, and the pubs
Wide open all day;

And the countryside not caring
The place-names all hazed over
With flowering grasses, and fields
Shadowing Domesday lines
Under wheats' restless silence;
The differently-dressed servants
With tiny rooms in huge houses,
The dust behind limousines;

Never such innocence,
Never before or since,
As changed itself to past
Without a word--the men
Leaving the gardens tidy,
The thousands of marriages
Lasting a little while longer:
Never such innocence again."

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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:39 PM
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4. I just googled Battle of the Somme.
The BEF sustained 58,000 casualties (a third of them killed) in one day.
Unbelievable!

How old was your grandfather?
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:52 PM
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6. he was around 20 at that time
he died in the 70's with shrapnel in his body. He went nutz because of his experiences.

I have family photographs going back over 100 years. Some of them show him with his fellow farm workers, proud of the Clydesdale horses in their brasses. Simple, decent men who didn't know any better. I am almost in tears thinking about sending rustic men, with decent values, to be killed for nothing.

One of the items in my archive is a 1917 postcard from a seaman serving on a destroyer anchored off Invergordon, waiting to be sent to sea. It makes my heart bleed and I am not ashamed to admit that.
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 08:02 PM
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10. It's still going on.
People being sent to be killed for nothing.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:41 PM
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5. As read by Mike Malloy...
Edited on Sat Jan-15-05 07:41 PM by benburch
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:59 PM
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8. Bookmarked. Thank you. n/t
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:56 PM
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7. Last of the Light Brigade
There were thirty million English who talked of England's might,
There were twenty broken troopers who lacked a bed for the night.
They had neither food nor money, they had neither service nor trade;
They were only shiftless soldiers, the last of the Light Brigade.

They felt that life was fleeting; they knew not that art was long,
That though they were dying of famine, they lived in deathless song.
They asked for a little money to keep the wolf from the door;
And the thirty million English sent twenty pounds and four!

They laid their heads together that were scarred and lined and grey;
Keen were the Russian sabres, but want was keener than they;
And an old Troop-Sergeant muttered, "Let us go to the man who writes
The things on Balaclava the kiddies at school recites."

They went without bands or colours, a regiment ten-file strong,
To look for the Master-singer who had crowned them all in his song;
And, waiting his servant's order, by the garden gate they stayed,
A desolate little cluster, the last of the Light Brigade.

They strove to stand to attention, to straighen the toil-bowed back;
They drilled on an empty stomach, the loose-knit files fell slack;
With stooping of weary shoulders, in garments tattered and frayed,
They shambled into his presence, the last of the Light Brigade.

The old Troop-Sergeant was spokesman, and "Beggin' your pardon," he said,
"You wrote o' the Light Brigade, sir. Here's all that isn't dead.
An' it's all come true what you wrote, sir, regardin' the mouth of hell;
For we're all of us nigh to the workhouse, an' we thought we'd call an' tell.

"No, thank you, we don't want food, sir; but couldn't you take an' write
A sort of 'to be continued' and 'see next page' o' the fight?
We think that someone has blundered, an' couldn't you tell 'em how?
You wrote we were heroes once, sir. Please, write we are starving now."

The poor little army departed, limping and lean and forlorn.
And the heart of the Master-singer grew hot with "the scorn of scorn."
And he wrote for them wonderful verses that swept the land like flame,
Till the fatted souls of the English were scourged with the thing called Shame.

O thirty million English that babble of England's might,
Behold there are twenty heroes who lack their food to-night;
Our children's children are lisping to "honour the charge they made - "
And we leave to the streets and the workhouse the charge of the Light Brigade!
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 08:02 PM
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9. Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense
Evil comes to those who think evil. The slogan of the Knights of Templar, IIRC, but they were fucking hypocrites and murderers.

Die Republicans. You will pay the price now.
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