What do you miss the most about ZombyWoof?

LWolf

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Wed Oct-01-03 09:27 PM
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Poll question: What do you miss the most about ZombyWoof?

Inquiring minds, (and one of my favorite DU friends)want to know!

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blondeatlast

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Wed Oct-01-03 09:44 PM
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1. Where is that guy?

Edited on Wed Oct-01-03 09:44 PM by blondeatlast

:evilgrin:

edit: I don't even like coffe; that ZW has a strange way about him . . .

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LWolf

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Thu Oct-02-03 07:49 AM
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3. He sure does! Can't beat the ZombyCoffee.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forum_archive_html/DCForumID59/10304.html

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jus_the_facts

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Wed Oct-01-03 09:54 PM
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2. his smarmy assholishness.....

...naahhh never was a fan...so go ahead put me on ignore or flame me for it....reeeeeally couldn't care less!! :eyes:

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LWolf

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Thu Oct-02-03 07:53 AM
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4. The asterisk residency:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/02/06/29_asterisk.html

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Desertrose

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Thu Oct-02-03 12:08 PM
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9. Gosh jus_the_facts....that seems a tad harsh

there sweetie...."smarmy assholishness....."???

Are you sure you were never a fan?? or at least a friend??

Golly....why should someone be flamed or ignored because they speak the truth & tell it as they see it...hmmm...what an odd thing....

:shrug: go figure

Peace
DR

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jus_the_facts

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Thu Oct-02-03 01:22 PM
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13. Sorry...but he was very harsh to me on many occasions......

Edited on Thu Oct-02-03 01:26 PM by jus_the_facts

.....guess it's SELECTIVE smarmy assholishness...tried to be his friend but it was HIS decision to act the way he did for whatever reasons...it was HE who BRAGGED endlessly at what an asshole he is...and to people who are on the receiving end of it.....it wasn't a joking matter....nor was it meant that way. :nopity:

on edit...I could dig up countless threads in the archives to show him in action....but it's not worth my time....it's all there somewhere sweetie if you want any proof of where I'm coming from! :shrug:

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JohnKleeb

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Thu Oct-02-03 02:02 PM
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18. DR I talked to Amber about this when it was going on

Edited on Thu Oct-02-03 02:05 PM by JohnKleeb

I told you he did to me too. He grew however less hostile to me in the end. No Amber I wont flame you for this, I perfectly understand because that was me too, I am however pleased he in the end wasnt so hostile to me. DR Ive known Amber since November 2002 at DU, she really went through a lot hell from him. I dont mind him but I did have a problem with him at one time because of his treatment of people. I dunno, I just didnt wanna get on his bad side. oh and :hi: Amber, you, Zack, and Maggie were probably the first people I got to know well. I say this, I dont know how I feel about him now but when I was a noob I wanted to avoid him as much as possible. Maybe he changed, I dont know.

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VermontDem2004

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Thu Oct-02-03 07:55 AM
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5. I don't really know him

but why the hero worship? I heard he harrased people on DU in a mean way, after all he broke DU rules, if he didn't, he wouldn't be here.

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LWolf

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Thu Oct-02-03 08:09 AM
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6. He sure did break those rules. He said things like:

Doubts are growing day by day concerning the United States occupation of Iraq. Even some of the firmest supporters of the invasion are given pause at the 87 billion reasons being offered for furthering the certainty of more casualties - for Iraqi citizens and occupying soldiers alike - plus dealing with the grave pratfalls in restoring stability and administering self-government, or any kind of government at all. The word "quagmire" is back in the national vernacular, after three decades of rest. The fence-straddlers who blurred the true definition of patriotism with nationalist loyalty and reluctantly supporting the invasion may be coming down on the side of peace. Maybe.

What does this mean for the dedicated peace activists here and abroad?

First, this is a time for asserting our values, which oppose the chest-beating of pride as much as these values likewise oppose the drum-beating of war. The toll on human lives, increased environmental degradation, and global economic disruptions mounting each day make our work harder than ever. But work we must, even harder than in the months leading to the war. The usual grassroots efforts of writing, faxing, and phoning our elected officials, discussions with family, friends, and co-workers, or whichever method preferred for communicating the message now needs more attention from all of us.

Some problems are ongoing too, when it comes to the stigma many still all too eagerly affix to pacifism. We acknowledge that the culture of war runs deep in our social fabric. There is still far too much romanticizing and masculinizing rite-of-passage myths attached to war.

Ask a veteran about the glory and romance of combat. There is a reason that they make some of the best peace advocates, and we should always welcome their insight.

Do not forget in the weeks and months leading up to the war, beginning late last summer, and reaching a feverish crescendo as the one year anniversary of September 11th rolled around, of the neo-conservatives spewing their toxic bellicosity - assigning all manner of accusations of treachery and foulness to pacifists.

We, of course, responded with strength. Not of force, but in numbers. Millions strong worldwide hit the streets, and opened the lines of communication.

We know we have a powerful global presence. We can, and we do make a difference.

The current crisis shall pass, but we are yet to know the cost. It certainly is not 87 billion dollars, nor any figure from the halls of bureaucrats and war profiteers. The cost lies in our spiritual health, as we stumble into the looming election year. Peace must come to Iraq, and to people everywhere. It must.

Please, work hard to help this happen. Let the cause of peace be the legacy of September 11th.

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VermontDem2004

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Thu Oct-02-03 08:11 AM
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7. So that is what he/she got banned for?

Edited on Thu Oct-02-03 08:16 AM by VermontDem2004

Seems unreasonable to me. This is what I saw.

1. ZombyWoof was not banned because of one incident, or even a few incidents. He was banned for a long history of behavior.

2. The only person responsible for ZombyWoof being banned is ZombyWoof himself. We will not tolerate any more insinuation that any particular person got him banned. That's not the way things work on Democratic Underground.

3. ZombyWoof was fully aware of the consequences of his behavior, having been warned about it by a number of different moderators and administrators. He was even given a clear final warning, in which I specifically told him "This is your final warning. If you continue to break the rules of this message board your account will be shut off."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=224294&mesg_id=225612&page=

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prolesunited

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Thu Oct-02-03 08:20 AM
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8. No, that's not what got him banned

Given his long track record here, I don't think the admins banned him on a whim and probably gave him a number of chances. No matter how much we liked him or what he contributed here, no one is above following the rules.

I don't know what all of the details are, but having seen how Skinner has operated this site, with a willingness to create a comfortable environment for all of us and a willingness to change his mind based on the responses from people here. I trust him that he had his reasons and made a fair decision based on the facts (many of which we don't know, such as any PMs between Zomby and the mods or himself) and the situation.

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Desertrose

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Thu Oct-02-03 12:13 PM
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10. VDem, do you believe "everything" you hear?

"I heard he harrased people on DU in a mean way"

Yes this seems to be the spin that has been put out...

so I'll ask again...do you believe everything you hear??

If so, always make sure your sources are of the utmost impeccability....and you can trust they tell you the "fair & balanced truth".....

food for thought
Peace
DR

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VermontDem2004

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Thu Oct-02-03 12:32 PM
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11. I guess I shouldn't believe Skinner

Edited on Thu Oct-02-03 12:32 PM by VermontDem2004

1. ZombyWoof was not banned because of one incident, or even a few incidents. He was banned for a long history of behavior.

2. The only person responsible for ZombyWoof being banned is ZombyWoof himself. We will not tolerate any more insinuation that any particular person got him banned. That's not the way things work on Democratic Underground.

3. ZombyWoof was fully aware of the consequences of his behavior, having been warned about it by a number of different moderators and administrators. He was even given a clear final warning, in which I specifically told him "This is your final warning. If you continue to break the rules of this message board your account will be shut off."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=224294&mesg_id=225612&page=

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Desertrose

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Thu Oct-02-03 01:33 PM
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14. Never said that...

Just said always check your sources....

as should everyone...

thats all....

we all believe what & who we want...

as an example...check the candidate threads...
:evilgrin:

Peace
DR

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LynneSin

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Thu Oct-02-03 01:44 PM
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15. I will say this much about the owners of DU

And that is they would not ban someone simply for heresay. I don't know what happened and therefore I've done my best to not take sides on the issues. But I've gotten a good understanding of Skinner and the other owners from the 8 terms as moderator and 2 opportunities to meet them in person.

They've put alot of effort into this site, who would have thought they would start something that has gotten as big as it is now with 30000+ members.

So the only people I will defend are the owners. I truly believe that the owners would NOT ban anyone simply because of a complaint or 2 from someone else. I also believe that it was not an easy choice for them to do this either, but if they were given overwhelming evidence that lead them to this decision then this is why the owners ultimately had to do this. I miss Zomby as much as the next person, but I have confidence in the owners that they made the best decision possible.

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SiouxJ

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Thu Oct-02-03 12:47 PM
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12. Coffee and conversation :-)

*sigh*

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Braden

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Thu Oct-02-03 01:57 PM
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16. the lack of Zombywoof tribute threads

Edited on Thu Oct-02-03 02:06 PM by Braden

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CatWoman

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Thu Oct-02-03 01:59 PM
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17. I miss my Zomby Womby!!!!!!!

;(

What's NOT to miss about him??

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Kat45

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Thu Oct-02-03 02:44 PM
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19. For obvous reasons, he would catch all my Zappa references.

I'm surprised nobody has locked this thread yet.

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