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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:10 PM
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There is not one piece of Opera that I can tolerate.
Berate me.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:11 PM
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1. I like Wagner
But then again, I'm also a rabid anti-semite.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:15 PM
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5. Yes.
I blame the Jews for my dislike of Opera. Particularly Jackie Mason.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:13 PM
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2. she's not so bad...
I kind of like the Oxygen network.

;-)
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:13 PM
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3. I learned to at least appreciate it ...
When I saw 'Amadeus' the first time .... Something about Mozart's magic that made it more palatable for me ....
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:13 PM
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4. But if the fat lady didn't sing, how the hell would you know it's OVER?
I mean, THINK about it!

:evilgrin:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:15 PM
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6. I can't even tolerate rock operas, let alone the traditional kind.
I'm not going to berate you. I agree. Ugh.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:15 PM
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7. Hear hear. Compulsory ads in a browser? Gimme a break. (nt)
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:15 PM
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8. You've never heard Rossini's Duet for Two Cats
It's the opera equivalent of a DU cat-pics thread.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:18 PM
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9. How can you say that when there's "Carmen"?????
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:20 PM
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10. Not even Carmen - too bombastic and over-mannered.
Now that I think about it, I might be able to tolerate Brecht and Weill's Threepenny Opera, but I wouldn't be happy about having to do so.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:23 PM
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14. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
And Boo Again!

I loves it!
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 08:36 PM
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47. I love "Carmen" … but I think all Opera is something you have to see live
first, then you can enjoy it for the music alone, later.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:21 PM
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11. Give yourself a chance.
When my Korn-fan step-daughter heard the Queen of the Night aria, from Mozart's "The Magic Flute" she said: "Wow! That is SO Cool!"
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:22 PM
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12. oh come on! opera is cool
it's an art form where people have learned to use their voices as real instruments. If you've ever been in a recital and heard someone go into "head voice" you'd know how extraordinarily powerful some voices are.

It's also emotionally over-indulgent, has librettos that sound like they were written by a petulant child, and great sweeping melo-drama. And cool sets. It's fun - but you have to approach it like that. Nobody takes old hack pieces seriously -


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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:23 PM
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13. Not even "The War of the Worlds?"
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:28 PM
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16. That's more of a comic musical, though.
(adopts booming Richard Burton voice) 'Who would've believed in the last years of the twentieth century mankind would make such ridiculously bombastic records that never, ever, ever end?'
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:27 PM
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15. Florence Foster Jenkins you gotta listen to this
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:30 PM
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17. Woah!
Talk about overwhelming.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:31 PM
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18. see - you CAN be entertained by opera or it's very weak semblance
not only a hoot, but a screech
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:31 PM
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19. What about operetta?
C'mon, you don't like any Gilbert and Sullivan? Just a bit?
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:38 PM
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20. Nope - I understand it's very clever and all, but it just seems silly.
And bad silly at that.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 07:32 PM
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42. That's sort of the point, really.
There's a *bad* silly? I don't think so! :P
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 08:35 PM
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46. Silly in the extreme…and a great deal of fun: Die Fledermaus
And all that Strauss waltz magic to boot!
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:39 PM
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21. Hmm... Bieito's staging of the "Die Entfuehrung aus dem Serail" ...
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:44 PM
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23. Sex-laced Mozart? Torture, masturbation, cross-dressing and pimping?
I may have to rethink my standpoint.
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:41 PM
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22. Always with the negativity.....
Sheesh.

Hey who composed Carima Burana--quite possibly your all time bombast leader? ;)
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:44 PM
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24. Carl Orff.
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:47 PM
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25. Thanks,
However, I gotta know your take on Trans-Siberian Orchestra.

And don't sugar coat goddammit! I wanna know the truth!
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:49 PM
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26. I've no knowledge of their stuff.
Though I am, naturally, suspicious. }(
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:55 PM
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33. Occasionally I've been known to get a kick out of it,
Edited on Sat Jan-22-05 07:29 PM by eyepaddle
but the live shows are great. I missed gigantic, overblown, bloated rock and roll extravaganzas like we used to get in the '80s. I'm talkin' pyro, dry ice, strobe lights and goddamned string section in an NHL Hockey rink! You'd absolutely HATE it.

Sometimes I miss bloated arena rock....

on edit--proofread
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:50 PM
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27. Tommy?
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:53 PM
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30. The film is dreadful - Ken Russell ruins it for me.
But, yes, even Tommy is something I have very little time for.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:50 PM
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28. What about "Jerry Springer: The Opera"?
with such intensely beautiful lines as "three nippled cousin fucker"!!
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:55 PM
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32. Lee and Herring are rather funny.
Not sure that would count as an opera - but then, I haven't seen it.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:50 PM
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29. La Boheme... now TELL me how can that aria NOT send shivers
up and down your spine each and EVERY time?

We're going to the opera in Venice on 11 February... La finta semplice by Mozart, written when he was 12, SIMPLY for the AMAZEMENT of going to the Opera at La Fenice in Venice... the recently restored opera houses of all Opera Houses....

**sigh**





PINCH me, I'm so lucky!
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:54 PM
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31. What if it was Rick Wakeman's La Bohème on Ice?
Do you think you would be able to tolerate it then?
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:56 PM
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34. OF COURSE!
The mere mention of the idea of it makes my nipples explode with delight!
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 07:12 PM
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36. All 8?
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 07:16 PM
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37. No.
One is faulty. :evilfrown:
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 07:26 PM
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40. I'm sorry to hear that.
There's really nothing like an 8 nipple explosion for my money.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 07:16 PM
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38. No.
One is faulty. :evilfrown:
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 07:05 PM
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35. not even on bugs bunny cartoons?
I heard a really cool anvil chorus on bugs bunny one time.
By the way, it is from an opera about a woman who watches her mother burn at the stake on the orders of an evil counts. So when she grows up she kidnaps the counts son and one night as all the gypsys gather around the fire she throws the baby on for revenge. Just as the child is dying in the flames she realizes it was her own son she immolated. So she goes a bit batty and raises the counts son as her own. When he grows up, she gets him to kills the counts other son, his brother, to avenge the death of her mother (by singing a duet with him about revenge and thrusting swords and stuff). Some other people die, there is a tragic love story, she sings lots of nutty arias about people in flames......
How could you not like something like that?
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 07:18 PM
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39. Hmm. That's a lot to take in.
Where's my peyote?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 07:32 PM
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41. I'm with you
I got your back.

Bourgeois overwrought drivel.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 07:34 PM
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43. Hooray! We can form the pro-united Ireland, anti-Opera League!
PUIAOL!
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 07:37 PM
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44. Not even the Bugs Bunny opera?
KILL THE WABBIT! KILL THE WABBIT!








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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 07:40 PM
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45. Well, it is better, but it doesn't quite get me.
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