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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 05:53 PM Original message |
Is breaking a child's toys a valid method of punishment? |
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StopTheMorans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. only if you make the kids pay you back for them |
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enki23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
2. actual breakage, or only the threat of breakage? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 05:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Threats that are backed up by action |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. No. |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
5. Malcom in the Middle? |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
6. If you kill it, you have to eat it |
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swimmernsecretsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
7. No. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 05:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. It could serve as a deterrent to poor behavior |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. In case you're being serious |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Not being serious, but it seems odd that spanking is less abhorrant to... |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. It is odd. I agree. |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
61. What worthless pop pscyh rag taught you that??? |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
8. Geez. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 08:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
97. I had similar experiences with my brother |
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traco (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 01:33 AM Response to Reply #97 |
123. That is so cruel |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
9. That's not punishment, that's just stupid. No. |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
10. jesus christ no |
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GRLMGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
12. That's so mean |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
13. No. eom |
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Shrek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
14. You mean literally break them? |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
15. No way - it intimidates kids, but doesn't teach them anything |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
16. Absolutely not. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
17. No |
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Worst Username Ever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
18. You can take away the privilege of playing with that toy for a couple days |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 08:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
133. I agree. |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
19. That's horrible |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
20. No |
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Kadie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
21. No. Nor should you tell a child to "shut up". |
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traco (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
46. "Shut up" is one of the most harmful |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
22. Goodness, no! |
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blue neen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
23. No way. |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
24. That sounds like something Dobson would recommend. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Who's Dobson? |
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fob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. SpongeDob Sonofgawdpants |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:15 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Dr. James Dobson, Focus on the Family |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Yes, a strong proponent of corporal punishment. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Dr Phil has recommended it. |
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Wat_Tyler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Dr. Phil recommended that a child's toys should be destroyed? |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. A parent was having a hard time |
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Wat_Tyler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:23 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Christ, talk about deep psychological scarring. |
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traco (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:43 PM Response to Reply #32 |
55. I just got rid of a large black trash bag of toys |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:54 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. That's good. |
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traco (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:19 PM Response to Reply #60 |
77. A couple years ago we took |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 02:29 AM Response to Reply #29 |
127. No. Although his premise is to remove the "privilege" of having toys |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 06:04 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. His exact words were "throw it in the garbage" |
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Hand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:32 PM Response to Reply #26 |
45. Dr. Phil is a sick, manipulative mindfucker |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
63. I don't believe Dr. Phil would recommend that. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:08 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. I wouldn't categorize Dobson's advice as anything sane. |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:29 PM Response to Reply #69 |
85. I wouldn't consider him sane either. |
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Dukkha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
33. only if your goal in life |
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msgadget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
35. No, I really think it's going too far. |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
37. No |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. One could argue that it demonstrates that material possesions are fleeting |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. But as a method to acheive obedience |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
66. "One could argue" all the stupedist ideas under the sun.. |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
38. No. I think that's mean. |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
41. I hope you're kidding... |
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traco (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
42. When I was a kid...about 5 years old |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. You're very lucky your mom was smart enough to dump him |
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traco (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. We got away from that one, but |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:35 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. When I was 6.... |
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traco (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:47 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. Was it fun for you or did it traumatize you? |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
74. No, it wasn't fun. |
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traco (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:25 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. I'm sorry you have had to go through that |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
47. No |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
48. ABSOLUTELY NEVER. |
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iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
51. One aspect of the pre-adolescent psyche is "animism." |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. What if it is something less animal-like, a monopoly set for example? |
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iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 08:37 PM Response to Reply #52 |
103. That's a tough one. |
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JimmyJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
53. The punishment has to relate somehow to the behavior -- |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:43 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Perhaps for very young children, but a 9-14 year old should have no... |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. True. However |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:15 PM Response to Reply #57 |
75. "There are so many other ways to get the message across" |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:57 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. So you're talking about throwing a 9 to 14-year-old's teddy bear on the |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:59 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. That particular case would probably be someone a bit younger |
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JimmyJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:58 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. So to teach a child to value and respect your |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:01 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Who said anything about teaching to respect the parent's things... |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:04 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Well I guess that's the problem I have |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:10 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. If a parent's only goal is obedience |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:13 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. But obedience definitely is a concern |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:19 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. I think what is going on |
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JimmyJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
90. But, under those circumstances, the obedience would only be |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 08:16 PM Response to Reply #90 |
98. It would be obedience through fear |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
58. Of course not! You have to ask? |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
59. WTF??? |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:08 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. There are far too many screwed up kids in the world already. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:10 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Give me a break |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:28 PM Response to Reply #71 |
84. Why should I? Your question is insane and very dangerous. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:30 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. No it's not. It's a variation of a question discussed earlier, whether... |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
76. Ok Heres what I did to my daughters favorite blanky |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:20 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. I don't think you are terrible. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:26 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. You aren't terrible. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
81. Well...if they start ignoring those taser shocks... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:26 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Never surrender to impudence! |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:47 PM Response to Reply #83 |
91. Yes! We must stamp out impudence wherever it rears its snarky |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:50 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Looks about right to me |
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DeposeTheBoyKing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
87. I don't have kids, but it seems to me that it's setting a bad example |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
88. no |
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faithfulcitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
89. no it's mean, and very immature... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
92. NO... |
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China_cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
94. Good grief, no. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
95. That's just plain stupid |
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Katidid (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
96. Absolutely not. . . |
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BikeWriter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
99. Many children have active imaginations and endow their toys with feelings. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
100. Yes, that AND a spanking - no dinner either. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 08:30 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. As the 100th post on this thread, you win a hammer |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 08:31 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Good, the chainsaw I was using was getting too expensive to run |
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iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 08:38 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. The hammer wears out long before the anvil. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 08:39 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. If you wear out a hammer breaking your kids toys, it isn't working |
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shesemsmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
106. NO never |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
107. Speaking strictly for myself, I would call it savagery. |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-05 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
108. cruelty is never the right choice |
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WMliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
109. yeah... having my baseball cards burned worked. |
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Valerie5555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
110. How about SELLING THEM ON E BAY like the guy in Texas did |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
111. Parents these days are way too soft |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 12:42 AM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Spank your child? |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 12:52 AM Response to Reply #112 |
114. If your children behave then good for you, |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 12:57 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Most idiotic post I have ever read at DU. |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 01:23 AM Response to Reply #115 |
119. wow thanks! |
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Cadence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 02:21 AM Response to Reply #115 |
125. I second that! |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 01:28 AM Response to Reply #114 |
122. They weren't born brats |
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Valerie5555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 12:49 AM Response to Reply #111 |
113. How about threatening to give it to the Red Cross for the tsunami victims? |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 01:01 AM Response to Reply #111 |
116. You assume that kids disrespect their elders because they aren't spanked? |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 01:25 AM Response to Reply #116 |
120. why don't you tell us why, oh wise one! |
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Cadence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 02:25 AM Response to Reply #120 |
126. Yeah, sounds like you could really use a clue. n/t |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. you too hon |
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sleipnir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
117. Yes. Burn it all. |
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ChoralScholar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
118. absolutely not... |
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Cadence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
121. Yes it's valid .... if you're trying to raise mafia children. |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
124. I say do a whole teddybear sacrifice ritual..... |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
130. taking the toy away would be better especially if you bought it |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
131. I'm kicking this in case there is anything more anyone wants to say |
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RPM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 08:29 PM Response to Reply #131 |
134. hiyoooooooooooooooooooo - n/t |
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RPM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
132. no. but mother throwing an older sibling across the room... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 08:29 PM Response to Reply #132 |
135. I wouldn't know about that |
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RPM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 08:30 PM Response to Reply #135 |
136. oh |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-05 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
137. Just in case anyone cares...but... |
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