I'm in tears right now.

I know I said I was taking a break from DU, but I just heard something so goddamned upsetting, I feel like I'm going to lose what's left of my sanity if I don't tell someone:

SPARTA — A well-known local attorney and Republican committeeman is among 39 people across New Jersey facing charges for allegedly downloading an Internet video showing the rape of a 5-year-old girl.

The charges filed Thursday against Jeffrey Patti, 36, spread disbelief and horror among the many people who know him in Sparta political circles and the Sussex County legal community — disbelief at the arrest of a seemingly upstanding family man, and horror at the sordidness of the allegations.

Patti, who is married and has two daughters — an infant and a 2-year-old — was charged with both possession and distribution of child pornography after being arrested at his home Thursday morning by investigators who also seized his personal computer.
If convicted of the distribution charge, a second-degree crime, he faces up to 10 years in state prison and would have to register for life as a sex offender.

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If your stomach can handle it, the full story is at http://www.njherald.com/news/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid1107033375,60567,/

A 5-year-old girl. A 5-YEAR-OLD GIRL???? Who in the fuck would find a 5-year-old girl sexually desirable? A goddamned fucking REPUBLICAN, that's who! And they have the nerve to call themselves the party of moral values? DIE, YOU EVIL COCKSUCKERS!!!!! JUST FUCKING DIE!!!!! :grr:

Sometimes I wonder why I get out of bed in the morning. :cry:

I feel for his family...he's ruined all their lives.

he was looking at it to collect information on child pornography for research.

Pathetic and sick.

when it was discovered that he had child porn on his computer?

A lawyer would probably say he thought he was downloading a movie or something else and was surprised when it was child porn.

Pete Townsend's excuse was that, as a survivor of abuse himself, he was researching what was out there. He admitted it was a stupid thing to do.

I tend to believe him since there has never ever been one accusation that he did anything innapropriate with a child.

http://www.rawa.org

Well one of many reasons but sometimes it is nice to remember the OTHER country that we have troops in.

But I heard one today that turned my stomach. There's a guy in Houston charged with raping an INFANT...six weeks old!!! He's been found guilty, they just have to sentence him. He could either get probation or life. His attorney says he should get probation because he's never been arrested before. The prosecutors say that some things are just unforgiveable.

Here's the link:

http://www.ktrh.com/local.html

Seems like an extreme sentencing decision. But hey, that's texas for you.

Let him off because he's never been caught before. There's some logic for you. And you know it wasn't the first time and won't be the last.

Just because he's never been arrested before doesn't mean he hasn't done something like this before. How did he think he'd get away with it? Mom (or somebody) has to change the diapers on this child. Mom is being charged for not reporting it too.

What in the fuck kind of sick motherfucker would even consider such a thing? My God, lock him up and THROW AWAY THE FUCKING KEY! People like that should never see the light of a free day ever again. Probation, indeed, GRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!

Let me guess: he's white, middle-class or well-off, and "everyone in the neighborhood liked him." If he were poor and black/minority, there'd be no talk of probation, believe you me. Not that there should be any talk of probation, mind you, it shouldn't even be considered, just trying to point out the racist hypocrisy of the justice system that I've seen all too well as a paralegal.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/020305_APlocal_babyassault.html

50 years, eligible to rape more babies in 25.

Do you know how often victims of these creeps hear people say this? Do you know how the victims' stomachs turn? How they want to blurt out just how nice these guys AREN'T and never will be?

But most would call them lunatics, incapable of impulse control, out for revenge, disgruntled, mentally unstable. So they shut up and just eat it when they hear that the people who raped them are considered "normal" and "nice."

This is the reality for rape victims. Just another fact of life. I read these stories all the time, but I don't notice much bother over them. Especially if it's a black or other minority child.

There was a big brouhaha about a little Caucasian girl killed by her father in our local news. (I had to actually speak to the guy to try to schedule him for a broadcast on another radio show before the charges were announced. He seemed, well, normal.) At the same time, a little girl named Bricola Coleman had been dead for months and no one remembered how she was raped with, among other things, a broom handle. No one remembered her death or tried to solve her murder.

Royal Marshall was my producer that weekend when I went on a rant on my own show about this disparity in the way the media - including my own employer - seemed to toss dead minority children away while they saturated the airwaves with photos of the cute white baby.


They solved the case a short time later, but they've done nothing about the media to date.

The Coleman case may remain unsolved, to make a correction. They announced a suspect some years back, and I assumed it would be resolved. But it looks like it's an open case.

Another one running around raping babies? Who knows? But at least Martha Stewart's in jail. I feel safer.

I have a friend who's a nurse and she says they routinely see these cases.

It's so fucking BEYOND sick... but they won't lock these bastards up forever ... why?

GAY. Gotta protect society from those horrible, morals-destroying gays before we do anything about baby-rapers, you know! :mad: :mad: :mad: :puke: :puke: :puke:

50 years is not enough. Where's Jeffrey Dahmer and Lorena Bobbitt?

... about what he did, he won't live a year there.

It's not right, but I don't feel that sorry for him. I feel sorry for sick people, like this guy, but not sorry enough to let him victimize someone else.

It was when I was just starting out, getting every experience I could.

Nothing prepared me for what I encountered. Even more than twenty-five years later, the images still confound me at the oddest times.

You would not believe - and you should never know - the horrors adults visit upon children of all ages.

Not a day of my life goes by that I don't wish I had never undertaken that job.

While I never witnessed the abuse firsthand, I heard some horror stories that will stay with me forever. For example, there was the four-year-old-girl who lifted up her dress and asked if I wanted to feel her pussy.

It's times like this when I wish I had a sympathetic girlfriend to put my arms around....

:hug:

I was not sexually abused, but heavily physically and emotionally abused and neglected my whole life. If it helps, sometimes we do turn out ok and our lives end up being good. By some miracle.

I'd say you came out on the right side of everything, and hooray for you!

:toast:

Five years of therapy and a lot of luck, I guess!

:toast:

I can imagine how those images still haunt you. But you were a witness to those children, and it helped them. You have to belive that.

I know just how hard it is because my mother taught at a juvenile facility for delinquent boys and some of the stories she told of what those kids had gone through was just unbelievable. It was so hard for her, but she got through it by realizing that these kids usually had no one and they were in desperate need of someone on their side, an advocate, and that she was often the only one they could rely on. Many times, too many kids went without one because no one gave a damn and they didn't want to deal with it.

Just remember that you were a source of light for kids that knew only darkness, something they desperately needed and so rarely got because people just "don't want to deal with it." You and others in similar jobs deserve special angel wings as far as I'm concerned.

And that's why it makes me so sick how the repukes have drastically cut funding for children's services agencies and programs, and are so gleefully rubbing their hands together in anticipation of cutting even more so that their fatcat contributors can fatten their wallets even more.

That way, fewer of their baby-raping bretheren will get caught!

In fact, I was selfish. I wanted the experience, and never dreamed what it would entail.

In Virginia, lawyers who take on this kind of case get $150. Flat. That's it. No matter how many hours you work on these cases, you get $150. There's legislation up now to increase it.

To $200.

Tells you what kids are worth in our society, I fear.

case of where-are-the-so-called-"right-to-lifers"-when-you-really-need-them?

Given that it's Virginia, I would imagine that most of the legislators like to think of themselves as "pro-life." Yeah, right. Until it involves actually DOING something for living, breathing, human beings, especially children, and until it involves actually spending their precious money that they want to all see go to fat cat contributors anyway. Selfish, hypocritical fucks will likely "blame the victim", anyway.

and he told me stories, like never allow your kids to have a man as a babysitter, and he said I don't care if it's a good friend, a relative, etc.

...... a client of mine had the classic neighborhood teenage girl take care of her small son, and the girl was sexually abusing the boy. Fourteen years old, and he was four.

I never left my kids with anyone. Made for some tension sometimes, but I knew too much.

that's what means something

But I never got to know the long-term effects of what I did.

There was a baby girl, daughter of two soldiers stationed at Fort Belvoir. She had been admitted to a local hospital with a broken leg, taken off the base for medical care because the Army pediatrician who saw the kid suspected abuse.

The parents, against an order to stay away from their baby, got into the hospital and took her. When the hospital realized what had happened, they called me. I called the local police and the M.P.

Within an hour, I had a court order declaring me the emergency guardian of the baby, a foster family lined up to take care of her when she was discharged, and a phalanx of Miltary Police behind and in front of me as they busted into the parents' on-base house and I demanded the baby.

"She's not here," the lying bastards tried to tell me, and we - me and the MPs - started tearing the house apart.

She was in the bottom drawer - closed - of a chest of drawers in an empty bedroom in the back of the house. She now had two broken legs and two broken arms. She had a bruise on her forehead.

I carried her out of there and held her in my lap all the way to the hospital. When she was well enough, the foster family took her, and eventually adopted her after the family had been stripped of parental rights, convicted of felony abuse, given dishonorable discharges, and the father (the wife testified against him in return for no time) sent to the slammer.

That was one place where I knew I made a difference. But, there were so many that, well, I don't know what happened to the children once I got them into foster care.

I had fathers threaten to kill me in the hearing room if I took their kids away (this was in the days before metal detectors), and I had to go in anyway and take their kid away. Believe me, I was scared silly. But, I had taken an oath, and I had to do it. Plus, it was the right thing to do. But every guard in the courthouse was standing by. That's scant comfort when you realize they can only act after you've been shot or stabbed.

There are a lot of lawyers who do this kind of work. We're not the monsters people like to believe. It's just that this stuff is sealed, and we can't talk about it, so the public never knows what happens.

I hope he has to share a cell with Lynndie England. That'll be cruel and unusual punishment for both of them.

The worst case was a six-week-old beaten to a pulp by her father. The State wanted to charge him with murder, because they expected the child to die.

But she lived. When I left the hospital, she was almost two. Why? Daddy refused to allow her to be taken off life support. His parental rights had not been terminated. She had a tough little body, and we took good care of her.

But she never saw a sight, heard a sound or made a sound. She should have been allowed to die in dignity.

He beat her until only her brainstem functioned and then he forced her to live like that. All for his fucking convenience.

You were smart to keep your babies close. A mama knows, even when the rest of the world is telling her she's neurotic.

along with others who stepped in, have made a lifelong difference in my life. I will never forget those people. Thank you.

Your words are like hearing from ghosts in my past. The good kind.

Thank you. And I'm glad you all made it through.

(((((((((((((((((hour long hug and a few tears))))))))))))))))))

it takes a very special person to be able to deal with the things that you saw.

You have no idea what you can do when you get into it. We all have strengths we didn't know we had until we're faced with something hard.

for Legal Services, mostly in the Domestic Relations section. Talk about heartbreaking stories. We got referrals from the local battered women's shelter. I was totally amazed at what some people who look perfectly normal are capable of doing. Several times I was asked to serve process on a batterer because I could get into place normal process servers couldn't (I was young, tall and blonde). I'll never forget serving a prominent attorney who looked like the perfect father, or the guy in the tire shop who came out from behind the car with a tire iron in his hand. No wonder, I became a business lawyer. It was boring, but at least I could leave my work at the office and I didn't fear for my safety of that of my clients.

I am sure if asked he can recite the elements of statutory rape.

Why why why - what a sick fuck.

I was taking a break too, but decided to peek in the lounge, and this was the first thread I encountered.

I know just how you are feeling, because I am feeling it right now too. :hug:

seen some freaky stuff, and i know one guy who got away with it and is currently getting away with it, the wife knows, but shes a lunatic

My mom would stand by and watch my stepdad beat the living crap out of me, then come along and put something on my bruises that was supposed to help them go away faster. My stepdad has since apologized, and gone through anger management. My mom, to this day, denies that any of it happened. I moved in with my grandparents at 14, mom signed away parental rights without a fight. Some people should just not be parents.

My friends weren't allowed to play at my house if my stepdad was home. Their parents insisted that if he came home from work, they were to leave immediately. They knew, but did nothing. I wore long sleeves and long pants to school in Texas heat. The school knew, but did nothing.

Somebody has to speak for these kids. I commend those of you who have. I'm sure you know that any nightmares the stories gave you, the children have them tenfold, forever.

i have seen my neighbor beat his son mercilessly, too

I'd say YES

It's your responsibility if you are witnessing a crime.

What do you think, 7th?

this guy is a fundie, and major bushie, his wife is nice enough but i feel she has been pretty brainwashed and might snap, and this guy is ultra violent

But perhaps let someone you trust know.

You can phone in an anonymous tip but I can't guarantee it will be taken seriously.

Some DFCS are better than others.

A teacher or health care worker is obligated by law to report abuse. Perhaps you can try that angle. The kids' teachers may know something is wrong. You might share what you know with them. Call their school's counselor (from a blocked phone if you want to be anonymous).

and you CAN report this anonymously. Please do so ASAP

For the sake of the child, call CPS today. They will send a case worker out and if warranted remove him.

years ago I reported a neighbor. I was advised to go knock on the door and ask if I could help.

:wtf: ?

I tried to explain that I didn't thinkthat was prudent, and spent quite a long time begging them to help me out somehow, make a useful suggestion, anything. Made no difference. They were no help at all, even when I asked who would be willing to help.

And I am sad to say I didn't know what else to do.

Agencies are overwhelmed with cases, and alot of workers are incompetent.

within 3-5 days. I was really amazed at how responsive they were, but when my dad was hospitalized and on Medicaid, they were calling at all hours to arrange care.

If no caseworker is available to come out, I would call the police. In most cases, they will remove the child until an investigation can be done. Even if you are wrong, which I doubt you are, think of the alternative.

someone KNEW it was wrong. As a child you are TAUGHT what is normal and not normal. When the people who are supposed to care for you abuse your view of the injustice of it becomes warped. The abusers teach the children to protect them. It is right to speak up on behalf of these little victims.

I have never been able to understand. How can women allow their children to be treated like that, because they "love" the man responsible? Your first job as a mother is to, first, foremost and ALWAYS, PROTECT YOUR CHILD/CHILDREN.

Some of the things mothers allow their boyfriends/husbands to do to their kids is just un-befucking-lievable. And their lack of remorse a lot of the time is even worse. They don't want to be alone, they're afraid of losing their man. Well, hell, no one really wants to be alone, but, MY GOD, at the expense of your children? And why would you even want to be involved with someone who would hurt your children? As a single mother, I've broken off relationships because they didn't get along with, or I didn't like the way they treated, my son. Yes, it was depressing and lonely, but NOTHING was and is more important than my son, and I just do NOT understand these women.

My mother has never held a job in her life. After she and my dad divorced, we moved in with her parents, until she married my stepdad. I always swore that I would never be financially dependant on a man. I think I took it too far though, I married a guy who thinks work is a dirty word, so I end up supporting a family of four.

needs of their kids. My mom had boyfriend after boyfriend when I was a kid. One of them was real abusive. He liked to "wrestle" in what should have been our living room (there wasn't much furniture in it at the time). I was about eight and he would pin me down and get on top of me. One time my nose started to bleed, he slapped me upside the head and told me to stop being a baby.

I HATED THAT MAN and I SO hope he had a horrible life.

To this day I have not had a serious relationship and prefer to be alone. I have NEVER wanted kids because I was afraid whether I'd be a good mom.

I've reported several cases of abuse I personally knew of to the proper authorities, and they immediately investigated and handled it well, helping those poor kids. It was all anonymous, too, so no one had to know who initially reported it.

that guy freaks even me out, i wont go outside unarmed, and as for the little girl (who i'm sure is getting raped right now) it was 4 years ago and i havent seen either of them since

Or write an untraceable letter.

Get someone in there. You won't be sorry.

to about killing him, and i could get away with it, too

but please seriously consider reporting it, as others have mentioned. I am sorry for the child and also for what you have had to endure.

seriously

tell them your suspicions and let them investigate and report it

i dont talk to him

then he was eyeballing the barrel of my gun

If so, I'm 32, and really don't see the point. My grandparents knew about what I went through, as I ewnt through it, but never reported it. They don't air their dirty laundry in public. I asked for therapy when I moved in with them, but was told that we solve our problems within the family.

That goes beyond party politics. That's a CHILD, an innocent baby. How can anyone be so fucking sick?

Out of all criminals, I absolutely despise child molesters the most. As much as I'm for humane treatment of prisoners, those people should just die painful deaths for what they do. Christ.

Here in Connecticut, the mayor of Waterbury--the venerable Phillip Giordano--is now doing time for having sex with two 10-year-old girls.

And remember Susan Smith, the South Carolina woman who drowned her two boys a decade ago because she said Jesus told her to? Turns out, her stepdaddy was a fine, upstanding Republican politician, as well as a higher-up in the Christian Coalition. He also had been having sex with his stepdaughter since she was about nine years old!

Republicans and sex with children.... :wtf:

child molesters usually don't last very long in prison. Even hardcore prisoners, including murderers and rapists, hate child molestors. That's why they often have to be kept in isolation away from the other inmates.

They're scum. As they should be.

When I was working with street kids, the center staff literally had to protect one boy from being killed by the others because someone had accused him of molesting the child of one of the girls.

It turned out that the accuser eventually admitted that she had made up the accusation out of spite because she knew that it would get the other street kids riled up.

So many of those kids were themselves survivors of sexual abuse.

it depicted the RAPE of a five year old girl. ALL child pornography is bad, but to me, that's the WORST. The living end.

There is indeed evil in the world. And when it happens to the most defenseless among us, it just makes us sick.

I feel ya. :hug:

I've missed you!

of my kids. I know that's not a very liberal attitude, but it's how I feel about my kids. Actually, it's how I feel about anyone's kids. This guy deserves to have his nuts cut off. I'm sorry if that's not the consensus around here.

I grew up in an Italian neighborhood, and I remember listening to some mothers of my friends talking about a guy who had a reputation for liking young girls.

They very quickly worked out what they'd do to him if he even tried it.

I won't go into great detail here, but it involved stripping him, taking him to an empty wooden house, nailing his nuts to the floor, and setting fire to the house.

They thought it was only fair to give him a chance to escape.

And people think Tony Soprano is tough.

Ha.

n/t

Like there's any other way?

And these creeps better watch out for the Malochio!!!!!

but he's not a sick, twisted fuck because he's a Republican, nor is he a Republican because he's a sick, twisted fuck. Hatred can be useful, but you ought not to let it blind you. Something like this is OUTSIDE politics, because it's utterly repugnant to most humans, regardless of political affiliation, cultural background, sexual orientation, or anything else.

Sorry, but pinning it on this guy's being a Republican is kind of ignorant.

Bill O'Reilly and those lewd phone calls to his producer? Rush Limbaugh and his pill-popping? Armstrong Williams and the sexual harassment of one of his male employees? Phillip Giordano, the pedophiliac Republican mayor of Waterbury, CT? Susan Smith, who murdered her children a decade ago? Turns out, her stepdaddy, a Republican and a higher-up in the Christian Coalition, had been fucking her since she was about ten years old.

Perhaps it's because being a right-wing Republican also means being a lying, hypocritical piece of shit, but those motehrfuckers are a bunch of sick, twisted, out-of-control perverts! When was the last time you heard about a liberal Democrat doing anything as despicable as what I outlined above? And I don't want to hear about Monica Lewsinky, who was a consenting adult.

There may be a greater tendency for sexually fucked-up people to gravitate to the Republican party, or to the church, out of some sort of guilt or desire to hide behind a facade of morality, but that doesn't MAKE them who they are.

And how can you really put Bill O'Reilly or Rush Limbaugh on them same plane as some sick bastard who gets off on children? And Susan Smith was obviously deranged or else totally amoral, but you seem to think that you can find causality in their politics. Any competent psychologist would tell you that's utterly absurd; that's likie saying JFK and Bill Clinton were raging horndogs because they were Democrats. Your argument has no logic. THere are hypocrites everywhere, in all walks of life.

This is flawed inductive reasoning; some X are Y, but that doesn't mean that ALL X are Y. Simple logic.

many of the "moral elite" are Pharisees who gravitate toward the APPEARANCE of good to cover up their evil.

Yes, people of all persuasions do evil. But we are living in a time when there is a party with a mindset of being above the law, of being untouchable. They are sold on that version of "Once saved, always saved." They can do whatever the hell they want and Jeebus still loves and blesses them.

It's called being given enough rope to hang themselves. Except this time, they stole the rope. And more and more of them will hang. Just a hunch.

There are some pissed off law enforcement and lawyers and judges out there.

But, I have to admit, the theory that so many Republicans grew up in anal-retentive, punitive Fundamentalist homes gives a certain credibility to this theory.

When I represented whores (who always paid up front in cash and were almost as wonderful as my biker clients), they told me that Republicans were the kinkiest johns, bar none.

And they always ended up in tears. Interesting, no?

I'm not sure who you were referring to there...

After they were serviced by my hooker clients, the Republicans always ended up curled into the fetal position, crying their eyes out while the whores rocked them.

That never surprised me. Does it surprise you? Imagine the shame and guilt those people must be carrying. No wonder they spend their lives trying to get into every woman's womb, just to make sure she's not having any fun.

The RW spin machine pins everything and the kitchen sink on liberals. Why can't we play hardball too?

some priests, they act out in very dangerous ways.

Whereas liberals are more realistic about sex.

angry. WTF is wrong with people??!! I feel so bad for that poor, innocent little girl.

I don't think it is just a "republican" problem, either...

who did that to my child. No doubt about it.


I have always been appalled that she served so much time for that.

emotionally exactly where you're coming from on that. But people really ARE innocent until proven guilty, and the man she shot had not yet even been tried, let alone found guilty. He deserved his day in court, just like she got her day in court with her trial. You just simply cannot walk into a courtroom like she did and blow the defendant away before the trial has barely even begun.

I feel bad for her as a mother, and I agree she should not have served as much time as she did, but we do have to follow some basic rules in this society and we just cannot have people taking justice into their own hands and shooting defendantss before they're even convicted or their trial is even over; certainly, they can't just come into a courtroom and shoot the defendant. His mother was there, too, imagine watching your son being shot and killed in front of you.

As you point out, it's possible this particular man is innocent, but SOMEBODY made a pornographic record of the rape of a five year old, and SOMEBODY sent it out on the internet.

It's horrible. Absolutely horrible. And it happens all over the world all the time.

After all, when the cops seized his computer, they found all sorts of child porn on its. The video of the 5-year-old being raped was "merely" the most disturbing file they found. :scared:

a defense less 5 year old, no ability to fight off her attacker, no one hears her scream. I'm not a violent person by nature but things like this really make me want to kill the perp. the people that watched are equally guilty, it's fucking sickening.

the death penalty on the books for intercourse with someone 10 or under.

Although I've only seen it prosecuted once, the DA's use it to get people to plead out to life fairly frequently.

The amount of abuse is truley horrifying. Almost as bad is the (often times) reluctance of the other parent to do something about it. Its bad enough being abused, its worse when you tell your other parent and they punish you.

And all the psychological and physical horror she will go through in the future. I look at this purely through the actual victim's shoes, and it makes me absolutely 100 percent sick. Imagine the PTSD that girl will go through. The post-traumatic stress is enough to scar someone for life. It's like Vietnam flashbacks.

Here's another case of parental abuse of five teenage kids that was just on my local 11pm news tonight. The asshole parents tortured and starved these kids and kept them locked up in a closet.

Quote from the article..... "Sheriff's officials said the children told detectives they were subjected to shocks with electrical devices, had toenails pulled off with pliers, were bound by chains or locking plastic strips, and had their feet struck by hammers. All seven of the children were removed from the home and are in DCF custody."

The parents are on the run now but hopefully will be caught real soon.

Link: http://news.tbo.com/news/MGB7JYVXR4E.html

about a family that had taken in a couple of foster kids and starved them. One of them was 19 years old but looked five. The way they and it appears this Florida family was able to evade detection is because the kids were homeschooled....

"...All seven children said they were home schooled."


If kids are not in a school setting (public or private) there is one layer of authority that does not see or even suspect abuse.

I know most homeschoolers probably do it because they think they are doing the best for their child's education. It truly is a personal choice. That being said I really think there is a substantial subset of homeschoolers who do it because they are total control freaks.

I will NEVER understand.

I suppose if we could make sense of it, we would be sick fucks too. Some folks just view other humans as meat, as consumables.

I am close to tears, too, between this and the six week old.

little bit better in your small way.

Do you ever wonder if Hell is here on earth? And if evil is winning?

or there is some instant karma for someone who needed it right then.

I just refuse to be evil myself. I'm pretty screwed up as a person, but I don't intentionally hurt anyone. And I try to do good for others and care and live simply. If you hold to your principles ( assuming they are decent ones) it helps you keep life defined.

It's hard to have hope but keep having some because hope has inspired many wrongs to be made right.

I welcome you all to go to YAHOO chats and click on USER ROOMS and then relationships. I have written Yahoo and they claim no responsibility for this vile, repulsiveness . These are the titles of the chat rooms on a PUBLIC FORUM. Is this free speech? It is CRIMINAL!!!

You have "incest lovers rooms"

"9-17waninsex"

"11-17XXX"

Under schools and education we have

"7-11yowho want nasty men"

"MOM's wanting hot kids"

"5-12kiddies into sex"

"girls 15 and over/ men 25 and older"

"Little girls pic trade"

"daughters for daddies"

"REAL incest videos"

"GURLS 10-12 see GUYZ squirt"

There are hundreds more.

...like alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.babies. :puke:

I would hope they could make daily busts monitoring those monsters.

They called to tell me that the that Cook (the man who raped the 6 month old) had been given 50 years. It's not enough in my opinion, but compared to some other sentences I've seen handed down for aggravated sexual assault of a child in Texas it's pretty good. We were ready to raise hell if they let him out on probation.

Having seen what you posted about this pervert and the video of the 5 year old being raped, I'm on emotional overload.

I don't know what kind of sentence this Jeffrey Patti will get, but it's not enough. He's a true danger to society and he'll probably just get his hand slapped. Yes, his career will be hurt and his life changed but nothing like that child's was, or all the other children's lives he's either done this to or watched it being done to.

People like this make me physically sick to my stomach. :cry:

I live in Warren County, on the border to Sussex County.

I had no idea.

This disgusting behavior is NOT confined to just repukes, vile as they are. It's ridiculous to claim or assume pedophilia is limited by political affiliation.

Barely underage: wrong.

A freepin' five-year-old: JUST PLAIN EVIL. :grr:

I'm simply saying it's ridiculous to pretend pedophilia goes along party lines. It's a cheap attempt to make lame points against republicans when there are so many true and valid reasons to go after republicans instead.

All posts like this do is reinforce the illusion that DUer's are radical nutcases. Providing ammunition to the enemy, so to speak.

...whose perpetrators were *not* Republicans, religious fundamentalists, or both.

I provided numerous examples of right-wing perverts in other parts of this thread. Now you provide me with just as many examples of notorious liberal deviants, OK?

He was a democrat, how's that for starters? If you want more, I'll be happy to PM them, but I'm not much for airing dirty laundry on democrats. Too many conservatives lurk here to provide that kind of ammunition.

Sick fucks are sick fucks regardless of political party or beliefs. To believe that ONLY republicans do this kind of stuff is really just being blind.

But more often than not, if a news story mentions the sick fuck's religious or political affiliation, it's Christian fundamentalist and Republican!

Besides, those right-wing pieces of shit always blame us for everything wrong in the world. Why not give those motherfuckers a taste of their own medicine?

and THEY'RE the ones downloading kiddie porn!! Goddamnit...That is sickening!
Duckie

that at least now days these things are reported and are coming out. In Victorian times, I'm sure the abuse was much worse because people didn't talk about sex or have discussions about sex abuses. Now we even have websites where you can be warned where some of these creatures lived.

I found out recently that a former manager at my company had been convicted of abuse of his 5 year old step daughter. I must say, it was a shock. The guy had even asked me out on a date a couple of times, but I don't date married men (said he was breaking up with his wife, my guess is she wanted to break his ass in half). All this was 2 years after the conviction. TWO YEARS! He worked in my company for 3 years after all this happened and no one knew.

If we had checked the sex offenders website: (I'm including the link for Virginia here, but you can google it for your own state)
http://sex-offender.vsp.state.va.us/Static/Search.htm
we would have known. If you have children, I strongly urge you to check the offenders list for your state and be aware if any of the creatures you read about actually live in your area.

that you never hear about.

how about the 1970s??? I have a good friend (guy) who was molested by a babysitter repeatedly and so was his little sister. They told their parents who didn't report it because the babysitter was the son of the dad's boss.

Ug.

For saying I found a guy here at work on the sex offender website. A lot of people thought I was a dick for not respecting his "privacy"...go figure.

That's what the goddamned thing is THERE FOR!

:grr:

:puke:

My grandmother once told me (quite matter-of-factly) about a "funny uncle" she had. The guy would peep at the girls (in his own family) changing clothes through windows. Apparently, they all knew he did it, and learned not to change clothes when uncle so-and-so was around. Wonder what else he did that she didn't tell me about?

let alone of a five-year-old?

answer: a sick man who is JUST PLAIN EVIL.

Top Ten nominations, anyone?

and I were discussing this very topic. I said that I couldn't imagine how someone could get off while causing excruciating pain to someone else, especially a child.

He said "well, it beats a woman who just lays there."

I almost threw up right there. I rarely went around him after that and my daughter NEVER.

Shit like this makes me feel nearly homicidal.

:grr:

FUCK!

and they don't last long in prison.

I hope he has a special place in hell.

...but its far more common than you think. I've represented people who download these things and there are so many images out there, and being produced every day, that it would make you physically ill.

First time I saw the evidence in one of these cases I wanted to vomit and I couldn't eat dinner.

no big loss if he falls out of the boat and drowns, is it?

A 17 year old man raped and murdered the 3 YO daughter of his mother's boyfriend. The mother of the 3YO was in jail for assault so the father had custody. While he was at work and the other kids were at school, this THING raped and smothered the 3YO. WTF is wrong with these people???

http://www.wkyt.com/Global/story.asp?S=2902916&nav=NebDVziK

Something you wont hear about on Fox news thats for sure.
There on the Michael Jackson roll. This sick bastard...i think
alot of republicans are the biggest of sex offenders.

IMHO, this stuff shouldn't be made political. The sickening acts like the one described aren't about political ideology. It's about sick individuals.

For every Repub one could name that has committed a crime, someone could name a Dem.

The premise is essentially pointless.

There were 39 people arrested. Were they ALL Republicans? Who are they? What are their names, occupations, political affiliations?

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