She: "Bastard, don't leave the toilet seat up!"

He: "Bitch, put the toilet seat down yourself. I had to pull it up!"

What is the problem here? Are women less suited to put a toilet seat down than men are to pull it up?

Why does this annoy women so much?

I don't ever see men going nuts about having to lift the seat to take a whiz!

WHAT IS THE BIG WHOOP?

then leave it down and piss on it...but that's just me

My boy pees on my brand spanking new oak toilet seat...and I am pardon the pun, pissed.

When my son was a newborn, up every few hours during the night for a feeding, I fell in the toilet. I had been awakened by crying baby, got up to go to the bathroom, dazed from lack of sleep...splash!

The reason I make them close it now - I use Clorox drop-ins, and have a cat who thinks water is fun to play in. Before I used to drop ins, i caught her drinking from the toilet more than once. She started a new habit this morning - pawed open the shower door 5 times on me, jumped back when a spray of water hit her, but just kept coming back.

You have never experienced a 3am bathroom trip when someone forgot to put down the seat...that is not fun!

Do you not look at the commode before you sit down?

but I try to keep it dark, as to not wake me up too much...plus I might not be wearing my glasses...and I'm still half asleep. A lot of variables could contribute to disaster. You just assume the seat is down...and you know what happens when you assume...your ass falls in the toilet...lol

inconsiderate person who left the toilet seat up, was considerate enough to flush....

and it isnt fun. we do sit down SOMETIMES, you know :P


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urine splash around the toilet; when my brother and I were young. Whenever she mentioned it to dad he blamed us. We grew up, left home and she still had urine around the toilet.
After dad died she would have given anything to have that chore again!
Lighten up. Seat up or down is trivial when you have a love sharing your life.

(Just kidding!!!)

Everybody should keep both lids down when the toilet is not in use. When in use, lift as many as needed, then close both again. Signed, the woman who accidentally dropped a toothbrush in the toilet and couldn't get a plumber for 36 hours...

Because I'm a man and don't really give a shit one way or another, I try my best to put the sonofabitch down...it only takes a second, and women appreciate it...then they don't have to see all of the nastiness that accumulates on the rim. If you're not going to put the seat down, you should at least wipe off the rim when you're finished taking a whiz.

Nothing like lying in bad late at night and hearing this loud slurping noise from the bathroom, thinking "I bet he wants to lick my face next."

Toilet seat stays down, boy.

after a moment of visualization, and the now contented pooch who is pitter-patting into the bedroom, ready to lunge up onto the bed for a cozy little snuggle (mouth dripping wet) and you (or any of us) groaning

usually female - hey I need that sucker ready!

Thats why. Its a good idea for man or woman. Its just women always have to sit while men can split the difference. So if someone is gonna get a wet tushie its stastically more likely a woman.

PS Women don't always have to sit. Now there is magic cone! http://www.magiccone.com/pages/781886/index.htm http://magic-cone.com/animation1.htm

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I SIT

My wife to be at the time, suggested this (sitting) to me after a few rounds of this same dispute/issue.

I found it to be more comfortable than standing, I NEVER miss, and should the "other" end decide to go, - I'm ready!

But not only that, since my wife has now long been my "ex" - my following girlfriends have ALL been impressed by the fact that I NEVER leave the seat up, and NEVER any splatter on the seat either from those that decide to do the standing thing without raising the seat,

- most girls not realizing that the seat never went up in the first place!

Think about it guys

- solves alot of problems, and is definitely more sanitary anyhoo

it's true.

after reading your post.

Nope, you're not him, but he does the same. I can't tell you how much I appreciate him doing it. :thumbsup:

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...and we're teaching our toddler boy the same thing. Saves a lot of mess and discussion.

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Good on you!

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that's why it's a big deal to me.

There are no guys in this thread demanding that women raise the seat when they are through so the guys don't walk in the bathroom and piss all over the seat or lid because they are oblivious to their surroundings.

I don't hear any guys complaining because they sat in toilet water. Could this be because THEY LOOKED FIRST?

That is the gender neutral position. Men are the ones who have to use it with both lids up. Therefore, men should put a toilet seat lid back into neutral position (both lids down) when he's done with it.

i wouldn't even have known i was awake if i didn't sit in the water!

that way i don't get blamed for leaving it up. this way everybody is happy ?

Not even when I'm drunk. (I'm a guy)

Or if I do, for some strange reason, I clean up after myself.

The only time I bother to pull the toilet seat up is when I'm in the middle of a vomiting spell, which doesn't happen but maybe two or three times a year.

I sit to do my business

He both stands and sits

that's 3 sits to 1 stand

the sits have it

carried by majority

the toilet seat stays down!

I have my bathroom. No one else uses it. I don't care what they do with the seat in their bathroom!

you just might get a "facial."

themselves about to pee, in the clothes hamper. If they didn't have the ingrained habit of standing, lifting a lid, and peeing, then they would avoid peril.

all over the toilet seat and had the courtesy to lift the damn thing up. I don't get it either...

some disgusting, stupid, lazy kid had to piss all over the toilet seat before I get there. I much prefer that the seat be in a raised position!

... is just a proxy for the real issues in a relationship :)

My wife doesn't get too bent about such things. And, in the middle of the night our bathroom is dark and I sit down because otherwise there will be piss everywhere.

I have learned the fine art of reaching back to feel if the seat is down as I sit. It's not that hard to do :)

can splash out as far as 20 feet. Don't leave your tooth brush out by the sink!

That is hygienically correct and also good etiquette. Sorry fellas!

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That's also good feng shui. If the toilet is left open, prosperity can go down the crapper. Oh never mind; too late.

Men have to sit at times too. It's easier to keep the whole thing down all the time.

Men can suck it, actually--we have periods, get pregnant, get paid less... if all you have to do is pull a seat up,

BIG WHOOP!

... to not having to take personal responsibility for positioning your own seat. Of all the more important things that there are to bitch about, I find it amazing that this "issue" finds its way to the top of the list.

Men have to sit to defecate as well. So some of the time they require the seat to be down. It would seem that since the majority of the time the seat needs to be down, it would be easier to leave it down.

It's not entitlement at all, it's a simple matter of usage. Men have to sit to defecate as well. So it would seem that the majority of a toilet's usage (50% being women and even as little as 1% being men sitting down) requires the seat to be down--so wouldn't it be easier for the seat to be down?

This is a minor issue, obviously...and like I said, cry me a river for men who feel put upon because someone asks them to leave the seat down.

Of course--it's easieST for everyone to just check before they use, I'd agree with that.

when you least expect it.

Thats a lot more inconvenient than having to lift the seat up.

first = Damnit!
second = inconsiderate enough to do this... hope to h@ll that he was considerate enough to flush.

ewwwww.

Nobody is ENTITLED to have the seat "pre-set" for their needs. Do it yourself... it's not that difficult.

But have kids... that will certainly convince you of the merits of keeping both seat and lid down, at all times that it is not in use.

And whoever posted about closing the lid before flushing, you're right, too. Toilet water particles fly a long way if you don't close before flushing.... iew.

You ask what the big problem is, you insert some dialog with both sexes acting like jerks and then you insinuate that it's the woman who is always in the wrong.

Turning your logic around, what is so hard about lifting the damn lid? Are men less suited to pulling it up than women are to putting it down? Why does it upset you so much that women like it down? If it's not a big issue, then why is it getting so far under your skin?

The issue here is not the toilet seat. It's a matter of working within a relationship to keep everyone happy. If one of the parties really has a thing about the toilet seat, why not do it as they want and avoid argument and bad feeling? In my house, I've never had any kind of issue with the damn thing and have usually left it however I felt like leaving it at the time - closed, open, whatever.

Hubby, on the other hand, likes it closed, both lids down. So that's how I leave it always, to keep him happy. It's called courtesy.

When you flush your toilet, a small amount of water is atomized and sprays out of the toilet, and several studies have shown that this bacteria-laden water can land as far as six feet away from the bowl (exact distance varies by toilet model). If you're flushing with your lid up, you're potentially spreading fecal bacteria onto your sink, counters, toothbrush, and yourself.

The simple act of putting the lid down solves the problem by preventing the spray from ever leaving the bowl. It's not a men vs. women issue, it's a matter of simple hygiene.

It is second nature to me now even though I live alone to put the seat down.

Women are weird. They fly off the handle for any reason. The game is to make them REALLY look for something to get upset about.

then it should be easier to put the seat down then to make a big deal about it. :P

Women need the seat down 100% of the time.
Men need the seat up 50% of the time. Men need the seat down 50% of the time.

So in decimal, a woman needs the toilet seat down 1.00
a man needs it down 0.5

So in the life of the toilet, the seat must be down 1.5/2 and up .5/2. Therefore, it is helping the most people with it being down all of the time.


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and inevitably gets some pee on the seat. Then when a human gets up all groggy in the middle of the night, doesn't notice it and sits on it, they get a wet butt of cat pee. Blecch.