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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:20 PM
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Alanis Morissette Becomes U.S. Citizen
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=529&ncid=529&e=8&u=/ap/20050217/ap_en_mu/people_alanis_morissette

LOS ANGELES - Canadian Alanis Morissette (news) is now an American citizen.

The 30-year-old singer was among some 4,500 people who took the citizenship oath during a ceremony last week at the Los Angeles Convention Center. Morissette isn't turning her back on Canada — she's maintaining dual citizenship.

"I will never renounce my Canadian citizenship," Morissette said in a statement Wednesday. "I consider myself a Canadian-American.


"There was a turning point during the ceremony where I felt connected to this country in a way that I didn't quite expect," she said. "America has been really great to me and I have felt welcomed since the day I came here."


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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:21 PM
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1. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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mudderfudder77 Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:23 PM
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2. Just what we need
another immigrant looking for a handout...
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Boswells_Johnson Donating Member (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:23 PM
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3. Ha ha! You're welcome to her!! n/t
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:24 PM
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4. Isn't it ironic?
Or something like that. :shrug:
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:25 PM
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5. Dontcha think?
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latteromden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:27 PM
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7. A little tooooo ironic...
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:28 PM
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8. It's like raaaaeeeeaaaaiiiin, on your weddin day ...
:P

Ok, I'll stop now.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:51 PM
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22. It's like becoming American, just when the fascism takes
Oh hey-ey-hey, oh hey-ey-hey, isn't it ironic... :-)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 04:57 PM
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40. Heh.
:)
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:26 PM
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6. I'll take her place in Canada
I'll gladly go
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:29 PM
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9. boooo
canada is now in the axis of eviL
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:32 PM
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12. "Canada is now in the axis of evil"
got that right.
What kind of country that doesn't hate freedom can operate without a massive deficit?
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:07 PM
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28. LOL ... and universal health care?
And they must hate freedom big time when they put all that money into their social safety nets, or embrace a separation of church and state.
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Hamsta1 Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:31 PM
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10. Is it just me...
Or did somebody photoshop-merge pics of Sigourney Weaver and Courtney Cox together?
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:35 PM
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15. LOLOL
:evilgrin:
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:32 PM
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11. Egads. An uncool person is in the news.
How much more suffering can we take?

Quick, let's all meet up at Starbuck's and speak some truth to power.

--p!
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:32 PM
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13. Would she go down on you in a theater?
:shrug:
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WahooJunkie Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:34 PM
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14. Lay off her
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 12:35 PM by WahooJunkie
She's an OK lady - holds herself well and is very progressive, politically.

She even played a benefit concert for Barbara Boxer's recent senate campaign.

She's very articulate as well (if you exclude "Ironic")

Did anyone see on when she was on Bill Maher last season?
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:50 PM
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20. Yeah-what the hell is up with all the bashing of her?
There's nothing wrong with Alanis! I'm glad she's a citizen, although I'm a little puzzled as to why she would want to become a citizen at a time when so many Americans are trying to immigrate to Canada.

If you want to rag on some Canadian singer why not Celine Dion? I'd be with you 100% there. :)
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:52 PM
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23. While admirable
"She's an OK lady - holds herself well and is very progressive, politically.

She even played a benefit concert for Barbara Boxer's recent senate campaign.

She's very articulate as well"

It is not do enough to mitigate one truly awful voice.

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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:23 PM
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34. So when do we deport Neil Young?
I mean, if having a bad voice is the deal-breaker...
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 06:12 PM
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46. She was on "degrassi" here in Canada...
took a swipe at Bush, it was great. Though I'm not a fan of hers. :)
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:36 PM
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16. Hey--she was the Lord in "Dogma"--doesn't that automatically
grant her citizenship in the USofA??
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vpigrad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:42 PM
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17. Why would she want to be a subject of Bush?
I don't get it? I know I wouldn't if I had a choice.
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SweetLeftFoot Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:46 PM
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18. Well
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 12:47 PM by SweetLeftFoot
at least we know where she stands (kneels?) on the whole blowjobs in theatres question. Next - gay marriage.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:48 PM
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19. Good you can have the jagged little pill no talent
Can't sing for shit horse mouth.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:56 PM
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24. I don't get this attitude...
I was reminded yesterday how fiercely "You Oughta Know" rocks, and of how much I like her wordy style, with its odd emPHAses. That clinical touch is so effective on "Unsent"; by saying one thing, she conveys precisely the opposite meaning.

I dissed her, too, back in '95 or so, but that material grew on me. Her voice may not technically be great, but I like it fine.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:51 PM
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21. Canucks to the rescue!
This is great news.

Now if we can convince millions more of the Canadians to do the exact same thing we'll handily win the next election!

May all the progressives in the world apply for citizenship here.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 06:03 PM
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44. Exactly what I was thinking
I really can't see any other reason as to why she'd want to become a citizen. She knows how fascist the U.S. is becoming, so I doubt she's doing it out of any sort of admiration. My guess, she just wants to vote in our next election. So I say, all right! Welcome to America!
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SnowBack Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:58 PM
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25. Maybe she feels the same as many of us Canadians in the U.S. feel ...
Many of us would like the right to vote out the fascists in power here in the U.S.

She didn't give up her Canadian citizenship... If many of us Canadians in the U.S. had to pick one or the other, we wouldn't become citizens....

But having both is worthwhile... We pay taxes for many years here and without citizenship have NO say politically...

Whether you like her music or not (in fact, I don't) is irrelevant.

Give her a break...
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:18 PM
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31. I was once told
by an acquaintance who also holds dual US/Can citizenship that she cannot vote in one place or the other; that would cause her to lose her citizenship in the other country. Maybe she was feeding me a line?
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histohoney Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:32 PM
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35. I am confused
I thought you had to renounce your citizenship to other countries to become a citizen here in US.

I would like to know. My son is originally from Romania, and has Romanian/American citizenship NOW as a minor. The lady at the State Department told us he would have to choose when he turned 18. I would LOVE to have him keep the dual citizenship.
Any help?
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:37 PM
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36. I know several dual Canadian / US citizens
It could be that there is a special deal with Canada. I know Canadian's can have more than one citizenship.
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Zing Zing Zingbah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:38 PM
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37. It might depend on what country you come from
whether or not you are allowed a dual citizenship. I don't really know anything about it. I'm just guessing.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:03 PM
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42. He should NOT have to choose. If he was born in Romania, he
should be able to keep is dual status? :shrug:

http://fcicsearch.aspensys.com/FCIC/Public/kb/immigration/dual_citizenship.htm

Losing U.S. Citizenship

A person who is automatically granted another citizenship (i.e.. through birth or marriage) does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship. Intent can be shown by the person's statements or conduct.

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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:55 PM
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43. sticking point: the United States does not recognize dual citizenship
Basically, the US considers all of its citizens to be citizens of the United States only. Any other citizenship that a person may hold from birth simply does not exist as far as the US is concerned.

Other countries do recognize dual citizenship. Canada, I believe, is one of those countries.

Therefore, if an American becomes a citizen of another country, the US either continues to consider the person to have remained an American citizen -- period -- or, alternatively, to have become an alien to the United States. The latter is very, very rare. It's actually quite difficult for a native-born American to become an official noncitizen. Citizens (and even legal resident noncitizens) are draftable and taxable. And our Murrica is a jealous god, bless it's heart. :)

Hey -- it's better than those countries that are/were fond of sending their own people into exile...
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histohoney Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:21 PM
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47. Thank you
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 02:27 PM by histohoney
I've printed this up and put it in his baby book.
Sorry for the long reply, had a lab problem.

I have in the past traveled out of the country for different reasons but I remember on a medical mission trip they warned us the U.S. was known for their embassies being less than helpful at times. They suggested using other passports or embassies if possible.
I would like my son to have that option.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 04:56 PM
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39. Heck, I'm not speaking ill of her. One more Dem voter is a good thing
:hi:
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:03 PM
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26. Alanis, the original avril lavigne
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 01:05 PM by Adenoid_Hynkel
a no-talent pop star who doesn't write her own songs and gets her label to promote her as 'edgy"

while the music press buys into it hook, line, and sinker. remember, she was canada's debbie gibson up til a year before her reinvention as a dark, pseudo-grunge rocker

jagged little pill is the most overrated, mediocre album of all time. it's horribly cheesy and has aged poorly

while i think courtney love sucks, she's worth quoting here:
"I'm so glad we have alanis to give men a safe version of female rage"
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WahooJunkie Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:15 PM
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29. Whether or not you like her music
..is not the point.

Also - she has written music, lyrics and taken care of the production for an entire album - alone.

And, I know this wasn't you - but calling her a horse because of physical attributes is just plain wrong.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:04 PM
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27. I don't mind her music.
Not that I have listened to a lot of it, but what I have I have thought was OK. I am more ambivalent about the whole notion of dual citizenship, though. I suppose it makes sense for professional reasons for her. I doubt she will ever support Bush, so Republicans shouldn't be too happy over this. Freepers will probably have a field day, running her down.
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kermujin Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:18 PM
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30. ha! she's all yours...
:)
now we just need to offload celine...

heh
kermujin
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:22 PM
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32. That tears it! You guys have to take back Brian Adams.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:41 PM
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38. It could be a positive - a possible Democratic Party voter in 2008
n/t
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:00 PM
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41. I love Ms Morissette
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 06:10 PM
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45. She's very anti-Bush....
:)

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