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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:56 PM
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Best Oscars ever, Chris Rock is my hero!
I'm glad that Motorcycle Diaries won for best song and Charlie Kaufmann's win made my day.

The music was good, the winners were deserving, a good year, even though Scorsese was robbed. Come on, Clint already had an Oscar! That being Said I do love Clint Eastwood.

Best Oscars in a long time!
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:58 PM
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1. You have to wonder if Million Dollar Baby
won because it would piss off the right even more than they already are about it. I saw it, it was a good movie but Oscar-worthy? Hard to call.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:28 AM
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11. I think the votes were in before the big dust up from the right over MDB
I think the rovbots just need to get the idea of euthanasia out there so that they can claim Medicare doctors are for it (killing old people) and get support from right to lifers, freepers, & the usual naive to stop Medicare (undo it next). Surely motivating the base in regards to Euthanasia has a purpose?

Actually - I have no idea but it seems that Euthanasia my tie in well with the whole dismantleling of SS & Medicare - if the rovbots play their cards right. "REFRAME REFRAME REFRAME". Next thing you know freepers and the delusional red state people will feel that 'undoing Medicare & Medicaid' will save lives.

Oh I hope not. I will cry long and hard if that is what they attack next.:cry:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:43 AM
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21. I agree with you that it might have won for those reasons. I saw it
also, and I agree, it was good, but except for the end, it was a cliche for every boxing movie I've ever seen.

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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:59 PM
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2. Yeah ... but SCORSESE DESERVES AN OSCAR!
And not the Thalberg Award For Geezers About To Croak, either - a REAL Oscar!

There. Somebody had to say it.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:02 AM
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3. There must be a major age difference
Chris Rock SUCKED!
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:23 AM
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17. same here !!!
I have watched the Oscars for 45 years, aprx. This was BY FAR the crappiest, most boring show, ever. Did you see all the empty seats --even the academy said, yuk on this stuff! Rock stunk except for two decent lines -- P. Ditty??? Prince???? What the hell? "Believe" is a beautiful, inspirational song as was Polar Express, and we have two songs, not even in English and one of them wins!! Sure, we'll all be humming that one tomorrow! I HATED Sunshine of the Beautiful Mind and that gets best screen play -- creatively sucko!! I wanted to see Hotel Rwanda get something -- not only was the acting excellent, but the movie is important. I liked Aviator but struggled through it watching what's his name play Hughes when he looks 13, and the woman who won for playing Hepburn -- that was a parody, in my opinion, not a performance, although I appreciate that it is difficult to play Kate. Compare that performance with Foxx -- you totally suspended your belief that he wasn't Ray Charles -- therein lies the difference in acting.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:32 AM
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20. In all fairness
I don't think anyone can play Kate...She was one of a kind. Many people had a problem with Leo playing Hughs, he does look so young. I have not seen Ray but have seen so many clips of the movie that I agreed he looked fab. The change in MC was to find a younger audience.....Did they??
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:50 AM
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28. I don't know
It is not that I don't like Chris Rock, because I do -- just didn't find his monologue very amusing -- not that I didn't appreciate the jabs at Bush -- hey, I'm a democrat! I was thinking this am -- it was the Grammy/Emmy/Oscar show -- the youth attraction must have been why they had Prince/p. Ditty/Oprah/Biansae(sp?) -- having one singer, sing three songs was another reason for boredom, imo. Rock's interviews with African Americans regarding what movies they attend might be instructive for attracting black youth, since they seemed to be going heavily for that demographic.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:09 AM
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4. oh PLEASE. BEYONCE "singing" what WERE great songs??? She's
atrocious and an amatuer at best... she massacred each song while chewing the scenery.

And Rock was a COMPLETE failure. I don't know who wrote his opening monologue, but what a ridiculous, lack-luster piece of waste-of-time crap. I don't know why he even bothered. I got nothing, felt nothing and wasn't amused at all, in any way, shape or form. Good thing everyone was 'all worried' or else we'd have been REALLY disappointed, right?

I appreciated who won what, but I was TOTALLY disappointed by rock and his liberal bashing.
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esvhicl Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:24 AM
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8. Rock Rocked!!!
I don't know why you are criticizing Rock. Maybe if you were on some right wing discussion board, but not here on DU.

Rock gave a huge NOD to Fahrenheit 9/11 and spent several minutes trashing Bush. Do you not understand the significance of the opening monologue?

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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:27 AM
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9. Beyonce has a surprisingly great voice.
I didn't know that she wasn't a Brittney Spears computer generated, corporate generated icon.

I don't know what you didn't like about her voice. I suppose you didn't like Josh Grodin either. I enjoyed most of the musical numbers.

Chris Rock is funny - watered down or not.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:49 AM
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23. Josh has one of the purest voices I've ever heard in my life,
and I loved his duet with Beyonce.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 08:48 AM
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25. Beyonce is barely technically competent and was good only if one considers
staying on pitch to be a talent.

She has a limited range, and in spite of some apparent last minute training barely managed to manipulate her voice into lacking the warbly tremolo she is so "famous" for.

I can't imagine why they thought it necessary to trot her out for each song. I was impressed she managed to harmonize with grobin, but even he at best is moderately entertaining milque toast. He's technically proficient, but his songs are all the same with little variance in style, timbre and vocal range. It's like walking through an art gallery and looking at the same picture re-arranged in different poses each time.

What passes for music today is just atrocious...
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:18 PM
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29. I was waiting for Beyonce to play the cello, too ...
I thought there was a requirement that she had to perform every song.

She really butchered that French song.

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:46 AM
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22. Huh? Chris' monologue trashed Bush, and that made it a FANTASTIC
monologue in my book!!!!! Liberal bashing? You must have been watching a different Academy Awards than I was........
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:15 AM
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5. Chris Rock was great,
but this Oscars were a cheap, cheap version of what the Oscars used to be. Rock's best line was the one about how next year they're going to give out the Oscars in the parking lot. The Oscar sponsors pinched every penny they could, and it showed. It made me wonder if Hollywood is dying.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:23 AM
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7. I agree, Chris Rock was hilarious!
Chris Rock, widely recognized as one of America’s most influential comedians, is also one of its most honored, having been recognized with numerous awards, including three Emmys, two Grammys, and an American Comedy Award.

I think Hollywood is trying to be a little less gluttonous with their events. I read something about this after the tsunami. Just a guess though.
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98geoduck Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:28 AM
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"Life doesn't imitate art, it imitates bad TV" Woody Allen
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:18 AM
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6. I'm enjoying it right now in my time zone. Great so far.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:28 AM
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10. Wow some people seem to have funnybones made of coal
I loved tonight, I'm sorry to see so many here bashing what was to me, a lot of fun and a great liberal evening.

I love Hollywood for it's progressive influence on the rest of the country.

Rock was great! I love that he got right to bashing Bush, the shout out to Farenheit 9-11 was also helpful to our cause.

I swear some people here never enjoy anything, lighten up.

Peace
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:38 AM
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12. It's a festival you can enjoy while in your easy chair.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:48 AM
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13. He was okay
He wasn't bad, he wasn't great. I felt he was keeping himself on his own leash.

I like Beyonce. I liked the musical numbers. Carlos Santana was the best, but that first number with the boys' choir was very pretty in look and sound.

Best line belonged to Jeremy Irons. When something went *bang!* off camera during his presentation, he adlibbed "I think they missed."

I love Irons. :loveya:

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:49 AM
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14. Was thinking about Eastwood and Scorsese..
But, really, when a movie wins all top acting awards, you cannot deny the directing and best movie award, too.

Though I seem to remember how they snubbed Spielberg on his first attempt at a serious movie - the Color Purple - that won many top awards except for director. I think it was Whoopi Goldberg that asked whether "they" thought that the movie directed itself.

Scorsese really should have won last year, with Gangs of New York, but nothing would stand in the way of the Lord of The Ring sweep.

Perhaps some day he will win a life achievement award, the way Lumet had this time

And in Memorial, why did they skip Sandra Dee?
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:31 AM
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19. They snubbed Ridley Scott the year Gladiator won most everything too! n/t
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:10 AM
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26. Sandra Dee died this year.
I believe the In Memorium section covers the previous calendar year--just as the movies up for awards had to be released in 2004.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:32 AM
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27. Oh, OK. Thanks n/t
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:53 AM
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15. I thought it was boring
nt
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:55 AM
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16. To quote Al Pachino "I dig" the Oscars. Tonight was no exception.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:29 AM
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18. I think it was a lashback for Mystic River....
and other "non-epic" movies having been smashed over the last few years by the likes of the Lord of the Rings, etc. Don't get me wrong, I loved LOTR series and I love Eastwood as both an actor and director too, but I wonder if there was a little "let's do it differently this year". It's too bad though that Scorcese had to pay the price. I really think he deserves to get some recognition at some point for all of the great work he's done, including this flick. Just saw Aviator this afternoon before the awards. It was an incredible film!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:50 AM
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24. I felt that Mystic River was a far superior film to Million Dollar Baby.
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