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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:03 PM
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Rush can't handle Recovery......
Edited on Fri Oct-10-03 07:07 PM by liberalnurse
He is doomed. A thirty-day program is not adequate....He needs the Long Program. He won't do that and miss out on his radio program. He obviously is just jumping thru hoops....looking for simpathy to slide out of this public jam... He is not serious.....


He will be right back at it once he goes back on the air. He knows what he says is a lie, hateful and damaging rhetoric. That behavior is not the 12-Step way.....he will be back using...Maybe alcohol since it's legal but he can not stay sober. He will self medicate.

It's only a matter of time now.....The disease is much more powerful than he is.....His ego and arrogance alone will take him back to his comfort zone......and to his demise....

So, when he is back on the show, slamming and lying about democrats, liberals and how great the *schrub is.....remember that each word takes him closer and closer to the end....

So be it...Make it so....

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:10 PM
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1. That's right ...I forgot about the "12 steps"...I would
imagine it's the same for any kind of "Recovery"!
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:12 PM
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2. Don't some 12 step programs warn their participants to avoid politics?
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:18 PM
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4. I don't think it goes to that extreme,
Edited on Fri Oct-10-03 07:24 PM by liberalnurse
but if it has a direct affect on one staying sober, then indeed it would be essential to avoid to stay sober.

For Rush, the radio show feeds his disease...sets him up to use...

His behavior, arrogance, lying, dishonesty, ego etc....all are contradictory to maintaining sobriety. It's his trigger to use. He needed it to deal with the shame and guilt.


Look here...Can you see Rush doing a daily moral inventory and being honest? Look at Steps # 4, #8, #9, #10 for starters....Can you see Rush actually preforming these steps in a humble fashion? Ha, Ha, Ha...no way !!


www.oc-aa.org/1212.htm


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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 08:27 PM
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16. Yes! Which is why I dropped out of that scene altogether

Well, that and all the "god" talk. I inferred that I wasn't worthy of "recovery" unless I accepted a god into my life. As a lifelong atheist, I said, fuck that!
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 08:56 PM
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18. Doesn't have to be "God" Simply a "higher power", or
"a power greater than yourself", whatever that is to you.
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Interrobang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:04 PM
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20. That sounds like the same thing to me.
If I need to delude myself into believing that there's some sort of Power out there that's going to help me get better, well, then I haven't really recovered at all, have I? I've just swapped one crutch for another.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:19 PM
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21. At the risk of angering the Friends of Bill W
Yes. That is the only sure way we have found to rid one of a dangerous addiction, replace it with another addiction which is harmless, or at least legal, for as long as neccessary to rid the body of the physical cravings for the other.

Then healing can commence.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 11:09 PM
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24. Well, I'm not an addict, but I do believe in a higher power
Call it grace, call it fate, maybe it is God, I don't know. But where we differ is that you see it as a crutch, I see it as growth and letting go.
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44g Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:01 AM
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25. It is growth and letting go
Where else to lay all of your heavy trips? Call it what you want. I call it God. No one, no act, no drug can truly relieve us of intangible brain feces. Churches, dope, cults, sex and other worldly fun stuff can and sometimes does kill us. God won't. He is the invisible emotional septic tank pumper truck. That's why I loves me some Jesus.
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qwertyMike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:29 AM
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27. Don't worry
God still loves YOU :)
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NaMeaHou Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:13 PM
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3. Recovery takes self analysis and change
I don't see either happening there.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:28 PM
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5. Also too wealthy
Money has a way of shielding people from there own mistakes. There is no way he is even close to hitting his bottom. Look how he continues to lie about how he got addicted to 'prescription' medication. Looking for sympathy.

He is seeking an out for getting busted. That is all. He is far from the bottom and cannot see death at his door.

I don't like seeing anyone going down the road Rush is on. And I hope he is successfull in his 'recovery'. But I think his chances are slim to none for the above reasons.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:32 PM
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7. I hope he actually has a spritual awakening....
To be successful, he has to quit the show. I'll be happy then...:)

Otherwise, the disease will do it for us....

I have no simpathy for this one.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 08:24 PM
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15. And too fascist
In case you didn't know, Rushie would be surrounded by so many liberals he'd shit bricks just to remain in "recovery." ;)
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:30 PM
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6. I agree
if Rush was taking up to 30 pills a day, gonna have to wean him off the stuff and it won't be easy; certainly much longer than 30 days to deal with the physical dependence plus the psychological addiction. Here's a list of withdrawal symptoms: restlessness, lacrimation, rhinorrhea, yawning, perspiration, chills, myalgia, and mydriasis. Others may include irritability, anxiety, backache, joint pain, weakness, abdominal cramps, insomnia, nausea, anorexia, vomiting, diarrhea, or increased blood pressure, respiratory rate, or heart rate. Sounds like fun, huh??

He deserves every agonizing moment of it. May not be right for me to say that, but oh well.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:38 PM
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8. The physical detox is the easy part.....
Edited on Fri Oct-10-03 07:41 PM by liberalnurse
They'll have him on methadone....It's the 12-Steps that he won't be able to do! Thats the life-long daily chore he isn't going to appreciate...thus he will continue to use...it's only a matter of time.

Like said, he may start off with rationalizing it's okay to drink alcohol then back to his drug of choice, oxycontin.....or maybe heroin......

He won't take the naltrexon, a drug that inhibits the effects of opiates. He is planning on taking" controlled" doses of pain medication for his cervical herniated disc....Oh, he's already setting up to continue to use.....

He's doomed!!!!!!
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bigwavebobby Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:39 PM
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9. I'm thinking......
He's probably already clean. This is a move to fend off prosecution. Just my humble opinion.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:43 PM
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10. Not even close in my educated opinion.....
It's just not that easy....You can't click the heels of your ruby slippers for this one!


He's in deep shit.....And the best is yet to come......
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 08:22 PM
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14. Especially since he has tried the rapid detox program here
in NYC. and, according to the Enquirer, almost died during it. It will be harder for him to do regular detox now.
They have found that those who go through with rapid detox and subsequently fail do very poorly at traditional detox programs.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:36 PM
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22. Currently, there is no such thing
Edited on Fri Oct-10-03 10:37 PM by liberalnurse
as an excelerated program.....
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qwertyMike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:32 AM
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28. Real recovery
takes 3-5 years the professionals say.
That's IF you give up the old life.
Then he can look for a new career.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:46 PM
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11. I don't know about that
He sounded pretty shaky yesterday. He had better start thinking about getting used to Tordal (spelling?) for pain management.
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xJlM Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:49 PM
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12. Yeah, right
Just like it was really only a pretzel that put those knots on Bush's head.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:53 PM
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13. Exactly.......the media didn't touch that one for the truth
did they!!!!!
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 01:01 AM
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29. No way. He was blotto on his Thursday show.
Apparently wasn't able to put together a coherent sentence by the end of the show. He's still using.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 08:53 PM
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17. Just what the doctor said on Anderson on CNN, before they
Edited on Fri Oct-10-03 08:55 PM by MissMarple
"ran out of time". He said the addiction is so strong because of the opiate nature of the drug, it takes a long time to get over the craving. And that is after the first three weeks of initial treatment.
If he's back in a month, he still an addict.


And sweetheart, be careful what you wish to be so. It can come back at you.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 08:57 PM
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19. He won't last the 30 days in treatment
bet me.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:28 AM
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26. LOL, I'd rather not lose a bet...
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:38 PM
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23. No he can't (and it makes me smile)
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