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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:44 PM
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Any experts want to help me with puppy potty training?
I'm paper training Belle and she is perfect with urination -- she'll independently go to her paper to do her business. Poop is another story. She rarely goes poop on the paper.

How do I encourage her to do ALL of her business on the paper?
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:45 PM
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1. Sweet little puppy picture!
I never paper trained a dog, I couldn't say.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:47 PM
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2. awww. she's darling. take some of her potty stained paper out and
put it next to a tree or whatever where you want her to go. then take her there and make a word for her to trigger on. My five go both with the word, "go potty". Your puppy is best to go after dinner and after beddy bye. she will get it. she's darling. how can she fail?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:48 PM
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3. Tell me how you taught her to pee and I'll fix the rest.
One of my special skills. :eyes:
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:59 PM
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5. If you're good at it, I'd think it would be a marketable skill! :-)
I keep her pee-pee pad in the same place. In the beginning, she almost lived on it -- I'd take her there after she ate, whenever she woke up from a nap, after play sessions, etc.

As she began to understand, I offered her a bit more freedom but continued to take her to the pad every hour or so. I get her on the pad and tell her "do your business" and she goes pee.

Yesterday I was convinced that if I only kept her on the pad long enough, she'd poop. I sat in a chair while she sat on the pad... one hour, then 2 hours. Finally, I had to go to a meeting, so I put her in her crate. When I returned, she had pooped all over herself (which she does 9 times out of 10 when you lock her in the crate).

I'm beginning to wonder if she has poop issues and needs a puppy psychologist. ;)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:22 PM
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10. Save your money.
Edited on Thu Mar-03-05 08:23 PM by sfexpat2000
Baby's urge is tied to walking, to moving around. So, if 30 minutes after she eats, you just happened to walk her, her muscles will do the rest.

But, there are caveats: Is her poop "normal" looking or (any number of gross things usually involving wetness)? Because if that's the case, it may be beyond her control until that's fixed.

Really, it boils down to one of those two things. She has a loose or runny stool that is hard to control or she needs a schedule and a clearly "okay" place to go.

Which do you think it is?
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:26 PM
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13. Nothing's biologically wrong
She was a bit off the first week as I was switching her food, but nothing since.

Since I'm doing the paper training, should I walk her in the house? Or should I carry the paper with me as we walk outside?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:32 PM
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15. This is the great part. WHATEVER YOU WANT! lol
Edited on Thu Mar-03-05 08:34 PM by sfexpat2000
She's going to want to "go" about 20-30 minutes after she eats. You pick the place. If she's not wormy or has no other problem, she'll go like clockwork if you take the initiative.

You could scour the neighborhood for some nice fresh dog poop and plant it to encourge her. (Yes, I know how gross that is!) But, remember, she's a baby and she's learning, wants to do the right thing.

I was no dog whisperer but taught my Buddy to poop in only one corner of the yard! It's actually easy, once you start thinking like a puppy's bowel. :think:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 07:57 PM
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4. Snausages!
If she's little, break up the Snausages into thirds.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:00 PM
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6. She adores Snausages!
That's how I've taught her 'come' and 'sit'
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:08 PM
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7. Here is how I trained my cockerspaniel.
I bought a good size crate. It was just like having a baby. She slept in the crate at night by my bedside. If she woke up during the night I would pick her up and put her down outdoors. After she was ready I brought her back in the house, put her back in the crate. Before leaving for work, I would do the same, pick her up and lay her outside.

The first thing when I returned home from work, I would open the crate, pick her up and take her outside. On weekends we would work on her asking to go outside. I never had a problem until she had rabi shots, she walks in the house after that shot, poop is all over the place. Now I just let her roam outdoors. rabi shots ( I know I not spelling this correctly) and my little senior do not agree.

She is so good almost not accident except for shot time.
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:26 PM
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12. She never pooped in her crate
Guess I was lucky. She is fussy about herself. I have two cockerspaniels. My female is so clean, and her fur is always so perfect, my male cockerspaniel is a slob. I can bring him home from the groomer, send him outside and returns indoors looking a mess. My female does not get food out of her dish, my male has food all over the place.

My female always smells good, my male always smells. Sorry, but that is the truth, there is such a huge difference between the two.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:09 PM
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8. Well, there you go, then. It's how we potty-trained our puppy when...
...nothing else would do the trick. Good luck!
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:17 PM
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9. well, here's my theory:
chidren, dogs and cats all potty train themselves as soon as they are old enough to realize that one should not soil one's nest.

Cats get it right away. Dogs catch on pretty quick and kids take a little longer because the human maturation process is slower.

I think you can offer encouragement like treats, etc. You can try to get your pets in the right place at the right time if you are lucky, patient and persistent. You can show your kids how it is done.

But finally, it boils down to when the little critter is mature enough to "'get it"

PS I'm sure you wouldn't but never punish an animal (or child) for making a mistake. It doesn't teach anything about potty training just fear.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:25 PM
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11. Right on. Pain or fear is not a good teacher. n/t
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:28 PM
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14. No, we don't punish
When she does her business in the wrong place, I try not to draw any attention to it at all -- just lavish on the praise when she goes in the right spot.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 08:36 PM
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16. If you have the patience to keep doing that, it WILL work! n/t
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:04 AM
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17. Never paper train...
why bother? You want your dog to go outside, not inside.

You have to take her out a LOT and give her every opportunity to go outside. When she does, give treats and praise to high heaven.

Watch her EVERY minute in the house. Crate training helps a lot - put her in the crate, as soon as you take her out, run her outside and let her go. Determine how often after eating she needs to go, and make sure you take her out at that time.

If you catch her sniffing around or starting to squat in the house, clap your hands, distract her, say OUTSIDE! and scoop her up and take her out. As soon as she goes, again with the praise and treats.

The trick is to not give her opportunities to make mistakes in the house. It doesn't take long this way - my puppy probably had fewer than 8 accidents in the house during his entire training - and the ones he had were MY fault.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:40 AM
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18. No Expert Here, But
the 20-30 minutes after eating thing several posters have mentioned is a biggy. Plus after its LONG and frequent naps, first thing is to take it OUTSIDE. With my newbie, the first couple of months are just over, and seemed like it wasn't working. We'd be outside a LONG time, and no results, then as soon as we got INSIDE he would "go". But suddenly, in the past couple of days, he is seeming to understand the word "outside", runs to the door, does the business out THERE, and has started minding to follow me INSIDE when called. For 2 months it all seemed like a random universe, with endless tissue swabbing and spritzing with disinfectant---then suddenly, NO SPILLS. There was one little accident today, but it was right at the door, like he was wanting to cooperate but nobody was available to heed.

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