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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:30 PM
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For someone who does not like harming animals, I just killed my second
deer within the year. Lord, I hate driving home from the ranch at night. What a horrible feeling, not only hitting and killing the deer but the shock and vulnerability of driving in and of itself. A creepy, creepy feeling.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:32 PM
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1. are you going to eat the deer?
Edited on Fri Mar-04-05 10:32 PM by ProudToBeLiberal
don't want it to go to waste you know...Anyways I hope you didn't get hurt :)
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:34 PM
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2. Some states don't allow you to claim roadkill.
For the problem of deer, you might try deer whistlers. Less than $10 and very effective.

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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 12:52 AM
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34. Those states must not include Wisconsin
I was in the car with my parents one night when we hit a deer. Within 10 seconds someone had stopped, asked if we wanted the deer, dragged it off the road, and set about dressing it. Two other people stopped right after, but they were too late.

Part of the police-report procedure for such accidents is claiming or renouncing one's right to the carcass.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 06:01 AM
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36. Here in SC
if you tried that, you could be arrested for poaching.

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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:36 PM
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4. On a highway, with lots of truck and other traffic on both sides. The deer
went up in the air and I veered off the road to avoid having it come back down on my windshield. (I know of a person who was killed that way.) Needless to say, I kept on driving. Although, I have been told that you are suppose to report the accident to Texas Parks and Wildlife. I don't want meat that badly.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:35 PM
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3. Damn, those deer can ruin a car
There are some (hyper sonic? sub sonic?) things you can put on yoru car that deer (and other critters) can hear that humans can't. They are small and unobtrusive and alert the critters of your arrival so that they dont' get frozen in the headlights.

I think if you googled "deer alert" you could find a source.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:37 PM
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5. They don't work.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:40 PM
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7. They always worked for me
Maybe you should slow down?
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:50 PM
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12. The first time, I was leaving the ranch and was going about 35 and the
deer jumped in front of the car. This time I was going the speed limit (65) on a major highway and believe you me if you go slower than the posted speed you will get blown off the road.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:12 PM
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19. I do agree those critters will get you slow or fast
The only deer I ever hit was on a city street (not in the country where I live) when dogs chased it out of the hills onto the street. It's probably the only time I was ever going the speed limit on that particular street. (25mph) The deer survived to continue its frantic dash away from the dogs. My car of the moment foreverafter had a whistle from a slightly bent hood.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:20 PM
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21. Some times, I just hate being a human. There seems to be nothing even
being a good guy/gal can do to prevent harming defenseless animals.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:47 PM
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32. The main problem here is that we (humans) have claimed their territory
I see it where I live. More and more land being fenced off for vineyards. The critters hit the streets, sometimes literally. People up here complain about the mountain lions and bear getting their pets, the deer eating their gardens. Well, duh. They've been fenced out of their territory. What do you expect them to do for food?
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:56 PM
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16. I have friends who live in northern Mich, who say the same.
especially in a hard winter.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:50 PM
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10. I just Googled: "deer alert", and got this:
Deer Alert
Deer Alert SystemSummary: Warns Deer, Moose, Pets, and Other Animals of Your Approaching Vehicle From Up To 1,500 Feet Away

How It Works: When the vehicle is started, Deer Alert senses the voltage increase from the vehicles alternator turning on and automatically activates the ultrasonic sound after approximately 5 seconds. When the vehicle is turned off, Deer Alert again senses the voltage change and shuts off automatically. Deer Alerts ultrasonic sound is on whenever the vehicle is running.

Deer Alerts sound alternates between sonic and ultrasonic tones. The sonic tones alert larger animals such as deer and elk and the ultrasonic tones alert smaller animals such as pets.

Features:

* Emits both audible and ultrasonic sound to alert a wide range of animals
* Helps prevent injuries and costly damage from vehicle collisions with animals
* Warns animals from up to 1,500 feet away.
* Unlike wind activated devices, Deer Alert helps prevent vehicle collisions with animals at any speed.
* Deer Alert will not clog with dirt, debris, or grime which make many other animal warning devices inoperable.
http://www.gizmocity.com/deeralert.html

Looks good to me. Perhaps it's the wind-actuated models that don't work so well.

pnorman
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:52 PM
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13. Now that is different. Those other wind things definitely do not work.
I and many others have them and we have all hit deer with them on our cars.
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noshenanigans Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:37 PM
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6. Wow, are you (and your car) okay?
I grew up in the South and my dad and uncles all love to hunt (we even have Deer Barbecue at Thanksgiving), but still, hitting a deer would creep me out. One jumped in front of the car in front of me once, but didn't get hit. <shudder>
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:40 PM
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8. I am okay but my car is not. My grill, headlight and hood are all
damaged. This really is the second time in less than a year. This deer must have been standing in the middle of the raod. I di not see it at all.
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Canadian Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:48 PM
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9. Driving through Saskatchewan
some years ago, the car in front of me hit a gopher (or, to be precise, a Richardson ground squirrel). We were going 120 km/hr so it was a little hard to react quickly. However, I could see that poor thing sort of flopping around. So, I swerved to hit it and put it out of it's misery. Was not a pleasant experience. I then pulled over to make sure it was dead. It still bothers me, second guessing myself on whether it was hurt or just stunned from the initial impact.

Now, having driven through Banff National Park many many times, before they put up animal fences on the highway, deer/elk/wapiti would appear suddenly in the dark. And, good lord, they were huge. I ended up in the ditch several times trying to avoid them. Not so much because I didn't want to kill them, more like I didn't want them to KILL me, being in a small car and all.

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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:27 PM
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26. Not only is it harmful to ones psyche, but hitting a large animal can be
very, very dangerous.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:50 PM
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11. Yeah, I know.
I was driving home a couple of months ago, and a deer literally flew, cartwheeling, in front of my car. A car in the other(oncomming) lane had hit her, and she went airborn in front of me. I pulled over and called the police on my cell, then the girl that hit the deer pulled up behind me, shaking and close to tears. We walked back up the street to find the poor thing, and she was laying there, trying to raise her head, flipping her tail, obviously still trying to get away. The police got there about 3 minutes later. I hadn't seen the girl hit the deer, so I was asked to leave because the road had no shoulders and my truck was half in the road, and traffic was increasing. I was scrambling to get in my truck, but wasn't fast enough. I heard the shot as I got in.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:54 PM
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14. oh that poor innocent thing!
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:07 PM
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18. Yes,don't get me started. Her habitat had just been downsized,
to build 200 thousand dollar homes. She was part of a herd that lived on the property of the factory I've worked in for 29 years. When they sold the land to developers, I called my union to find out what happens to deer. I was assured that they were going to be just fine. Horse shit.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:17 PM
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20. It becomes harder and harder to hang on to large pieces of property,
because those who have them are seldom able to make the land make enough to pay all the expenses of taxes and insurance. We are continuing to fight for our land by marketing it in every way possible. I shudder to see the day that our ranch becomes part of some land developer's scheme. Right now we are too far out of the scope of suburbia for that to happen, but in the next generation, who knows?
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:58 PM
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17. To an animal lover, this is a very traumatic experience, plus the whole
scary driving accident thing. Still trying to decompress over this one.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:22 PM
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22. You did nothing wrong. Sometimes shit just happens.
Sometimes it just doesn't matter how careful you are, or how many precautions you take. :hug:
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:25 PM
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24. But it still hurts spiritually, although, I know there was not one single
thing I could have done about it. Thanks for your hug. It felt good.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:56 PM
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15. I am sorry for the poor helpless deer and for you. I ran over a
little squirrel a few months ago and still feel bad. It is just the worst feeling to kill an innocent animal.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:22 PM
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23. What was weird was that I had avoided a cat that dashed across the
road only a few miles before the deer and was kind of congratulating myself on this right before I hit the deer.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 02:07 AM
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35. oh geez. almost like a philosophical punch in the jaw. One
moment you feel good about saving an animal....

I am so sorry. I know you are feeling terrible.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:26 PM
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25. I nailed a deer on GA 400 halfway between Dhalonega and ATL
Doing 70 in the fast lane, I looked out into the median and saw a deer running toward my car (!!!). She ran into the side and knocked me into the slow lane. I looked in the rear view mirror as she did three complete end-over-end flips and got up shakily and ran off. Whoa. My steering was 90 degrees out of alignment. Luckily, my little plastic Fiero bounced back, and there was no mark.

Then on Hwy.9 near Dawsonville, a possum on the night road tore the spoiler off my car. I may have been going a little fast.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:31 PM
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28. Is there really a place called "Dhalonega"? My crown vic must not
be very resilient because it has some real damage, again.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:41 PM
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30. Yes, there is
North Georgia, bout halfway between Atlanta and Chatanooga, TN.

Your car is made of real *METAL*. That's a good thing. Mine was made of plastic. A Fiero is just rubber panels on a little go-cart chassis.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:44 PM
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31. Since, you had no damage and I do, how is that a good thing?
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 06:47 AM
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38. It's spelled Dahlonega.
I saw a dead doe on the side of the road when I was driving down from Calhoun to Woodstock on I-75. I felt so sad for that poor deer.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:28 PM
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27. Not much you can do when they cross a freeway
we get em here on the toll roads...I've seen cars wipe out trying to miss them.

Sorry :hug:
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:32 PM
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29. You're in Texas, right? What toll road? Should I give up driving at night?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 12:49 AM
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33. No I am in California and we get deer on the roads here
because two recently built toll roads cut right through the canyons where they run.

There isn't much you can do unless you get familiar with areas they use as crossings...deer are creatures of habit, so if you saw one in this location, odds are they USE that area to cross..and slow it down going through there
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thecai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 06:21 AM
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37. Sad and Dangerous
Be as careful as can be! Many times when an animal gets hit it goes through the windshield. Put deer whistles on your car if you can.
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