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Itsthetruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:27 PM
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Poll question: A POLL: Do You Think Michael Jackson Is A Pedophile?
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 01:38 PM by Itsthetruth
I'm not about to join the right-wing lynch mob against Jackson, but, how do you feel?
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:30 PM
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1. Don't Care
More important things to be concerned about.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:32 PM
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5. Another for don't care:
There are MUCH more important issues to worry about than this media circus for ratings.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:35 PM
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10. You are a mom uninterested in pedophiles?
If he is guilty I would think it important he be put away. If he is innocent I would think you would hope for a fair trial and aquittal. :shrug:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:02 PM
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24. Bluebear, that's all i've ever been interested in.
I want the truth to win nothing else matters.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:20 PM
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31. The risk of anyone's child being molested by Michael Jackson is very low.
He's been a known child molester since '93. His face is unmistakeable. ANyone who puts their kid in his house is practically asking to have their kid molested.

Sure he's probably guilty, but this is not a relevant "issue" to anyone. It's celebrity nonsense.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:30 PM
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2. I think I'll let the jury of his peers handle this one.
Although I enjoy having opinions without any factual basis, it seems like somebody else is working hard for the answer.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:31 PM
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3. Can't vote. I don't say anything "Because Limbaugh says so."

:puke:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:32 PM
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6. I voted Yes anyway
I saw this as a binary poll anyway and I do believe he is a pedophile.

I also firmly believe he will be acquitted.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:35 PM
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8. I'm with you on the acquittal, esp. after the brother's perjury.

I wanted to hit yes, because I do believe he's
a pedophile.

It would have been a more effective poll without
the editorial commentary.
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Itsthetruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:40 PM
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13. Good Point
Good point. I've made the change.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:43 PM
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17. And I voted.

Thanks.

:hi:
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DelawareValleyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:31 PM
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4. I'll reserve judgement
until the defense presents its case
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Itsthetruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:35 PM
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9. Innocent Until Proven Guilty
I believe a person is innocent until proven guilty. Jackson's odd behavior certainly hasn't helped his cause. It seems that Jackson never grew into adulthood. At the same time, I don't like the way the right-wing has gone after him.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:33 PM
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7. Don't care
MJ is just another damn distraction to occupy gullible fools. Since I don't count myself among that group, I will let the courts decide.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:35 PM
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11. Jako Is A Pedophile


And that is not a bunch of RIGHT WING Lynching......

Ill offer a challenge to anyone here on the DU........

Go next door to someone who has a five year old boy or girl and ask them if they would like to take a nap with you and see if you dont have the COPS knocking on your door when the parents find out...

Jacko Is Sadly above the Law......Mary Kay LeTuerono went to jail for much less if Jacko was just doing somthing innocent....

30-40 year old MEN dont have SLEEPOVERS with 5 year old boys.....that is not normal behavior regardless of whether or not alcohol was involved.

Today should be the day that Jacko goes to Jail.........his life is crumbling before him and its his own fault.
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skjpm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:43 PM
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18. Sleepovers are creepy, but they're not a crime
I can't imagine a parent allowing this, but it's still not a crime, if that's all that happened. Bizarre behavior is not a crime, and we shouldn't jump to conclusions just because someone is eccentric. Should drag queens be allowed to babysit? Of course--just because you're different doesn't mean you're a pervert.

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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:30 PM
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35. No analogy...
There is nobody 5 years old involved in any case regarding MJ. The whole pedophile scenario depends on the public believing/imagining little innocent children are involved and that is not part of any case or the one he is involved in at the present time.

That said, if he is guilty in the case regarding the preteen then he should be punished but picturing him as a monster surrounded by toddlers in his bed is not realistic.

That said, as a parent of children 7-14, I would allow my children to visit Neverland.(supervised)

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TOOLZ Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:38 PM
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12. I'm trying hard to ignore this and focus on what matters
Please don't bring this issue here. It's EVERYWHERE else.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:41 PM
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16. Fair trials matter.
Fast forward 3 years or so: "Oh another story about some liberal being tried for violating the Patriot 4 act, yawn. Why are they giving this air time?"

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DU_ONE Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:43 PM
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19. You know the old saying?
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 01:50 PM by DU_ONE
Where there's smoke there's fire . . .

What a shameful waste of talent and opportunity.

I almost feel sorry for the guy . . . almost . . .
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:40 PM
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14. I don't know
Not sure what to think about it yet.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:41 PM
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15. "Not Sure" not an option?
I mean, I still want to believe he's innocent, but good grief, the man doesn't know how to look anything other than guilty.

That's the penalty for being odd in modern America. We kill people for that.
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Itsthetruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:56 PM
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23. Not Certain
I'm not certain either but until I see evidence of his guilt I have to vote not guilty.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:48 PM
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20. He likes little boys!
What does that make him?
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tubbacheez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:54 PM
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21. Sex w/ minor is a crime. Pedophilia is not. Innocent until proven guilty.
The mainstream media blurs things together badly enough without us contributing to the confusion.

Pedophilia is simply getting turned on by kids. It's considered a deviant form of sexuality and a taboo fetish. All this is well and good.

But we have no law making a crime out of being a pedophile, in and of itself.



We do have laws that make it a crime to have sex with minors or to sexually assault minors. And I'm glad we have these laws. Those laws spell out what specific acts comprise the crime and what the punishment should be.

But unless we happen to sit on the jury of the Jackson trial, in which case we should not be browsing Internet forums that discuss this case, we are not privy to the evidence that prosecutors are bringing against Jackson.




The principle of "innocent until proven guilty" doesn't mean you have to think positive about the guy until he's convicted. It just means he's not a criminal until the trial court says so. This is simply due process.

The 14 Amendment specifies equal protection under the law, even for a weirdo celebrity that many armchair wannabe-jurists think is a pedophile. Perhaps espectially for such a person.



America is supposed to be home of the brave. It takes some courage to refrain from mobbing the outcast and let due process do its thing.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:56 PM
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22. I DONT CARE. FOCUS ON WHAT MATTERS n/t
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:03 PM
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25. yes, years ago. I am sick to death of hearing about his case!!
Quite the diversion from things that really matter.
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ladeuxiemevoiture Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:03 PM
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26. My opinion is the kids parents should be on trial
for, at least, child neglect.

they make me sick. (aside from however you feel about Michael Jackson)
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:10 PM
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27. I don't know
I don't know whether or not Jackson's a pedophile. And neither does anyone else here. All we have is opinions based on our own perceptions and societal norms.

If Jackson is innocent, he is a fool. A psychologically scarred fool. IF he is innocent, he should have learned after the '93 accusations, and never again put himself in a situation where there would have been a chance of improper behavior being alleged.

Jackson seems to have had a seriously messed-up childhood, and to have never really adjusted to growing up. It may be that that has played a role in his being sexually attracted to children, I don't know.

If he's guilty, he deserves to go to prison, but he deserves a fair trial.

The brother's testimony being impeached by his admitting lying in court in the past was a serious blow to the prosecution. I assume they have more evidence than just the witness, though, or they wouldn't have taken it to trial.

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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:14 PM
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28. Can't say for sure
But keep your kids away from him.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:17 PM
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29. I think I don't care.
And I also think this piece of celebrity-gossip fluff belongs in the Lounge.
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hollywood926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:19 PM
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30. Here we go again with the "I Don't Cares"
THEN WHY DID YOU OPEN THIS THREAD?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:21 PM
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32. I don't think we know enough, other than what the media has told us,....
...to form an opinion one way or the other.

The media tends to convict anyone, even before they've been charged with a crime.
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DARE to HOPE Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:21 PM
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33. "Here, drink this (wine in a Coke can)--it'll relax you..."
...a lot of women know this line, also. There is always an ulterior motive.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:26 PM
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34. Don't care. It's just entertainment for the boobs.
If it were Joe Schmoe rather than *MICHAEL JACKSON*!! nobody but the people concerned would pay any attention.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:31 PM
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36. No one outside of court knows for sure.
And, chances are, they aren't sure in court, either. However, thanks to the court entertainment media, the American public seems to think it's qualified to pass judgment on a defendant based on limited testimony, censored evidence and the heresay of self-proclaimed authorities who offer opinion as fact.

That said, it is obvious that the man needs psychological help with his plastic surgery addiction and probably a few other issues, though I can only speculate as to what those are.
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