Rage Against the Machine v. The Clash

I love both bands and even though they're from different genres I think they have a lot in common. Which do you like best?

I bet JimmyJazz picks Rage. :)

but rage is by far my favorite of the two

Too bad he had to leave, but I guess he wanted to write some more motorcycle diaries or something

It's one thing for a band to say they are all revolutionary, but Rage actually has a guy that started a revolution. You really don't think that adds some street cred to what they're doing? I do.

'till I saw him jump out of a limo 9 years ago in SF to run to a cash machine by the Haight. Don't know if he is/was keepin it real but that just blew it for me.

...but I can understand that it's hard to take the time to learn how to sing like Liam when you're spending all this time trying to set up the government in Cuba.

Not even a contest.

but Woodie Guthrie did it first.

:hi:

but I've got to kick it back to my earlier memories of rebellion and vote w/ the albums that my parents hated hearing cranked up on my cheap little stereo-The Clash!

(JimmyJazz don't hurt me) :evilgrin:

While I admire that they scored corporate distribution and some commercial success with such radical lyrical content, their music was cheap riffy tripe calculated to give 14 year olds erections. "Rage Against My Homework" was more like it.

I love you.

:yourock:

giving 14 year olds an erection? That's like shooting fish in a barrell.

:P

but then I'm an old school fart.

I was expecting an ass kicking for that comment about you. ;)

Me-----> <-----your sorry self for even thinking such a thing :o

may I have another?

Whereas the Clash made a few good records.

well, that and the drugs. :o

Rage wasn't. That's all I'm saying.

Rage was more political than the Clash - it's a good thing it's 8:00 a.m. and not 8:00 p.m. or I might be accused of something!

You know how I feel about this. I know I run around and say "Joe was a hottie" and act silly about it, but the truth is, I am amazed that they produced an album and called it Sandinista a good four years before the general public even knew there was a problem in Nicaragua. That's only the tip of the iceberg as far as their political awareness.

Rage had what, 15 minutes on the scene? They pissed and moaned for a bit with derivative songs and a screechy guitar sound that annoys.

Bah...

The Clash has lasted 25 years and still is just as vital.

"The only band that matters"

RL

Just ask CRASS

you convinced me :eyes:

B-)

on edit:
"The idea of becoming a band had never seriously occurred to us, it simply happened. Basically anyone was free to join in and rehearsals were rowdy affairs that invariably degraded into little more than drunken parties. Steve and Penny had been writing and playing together since early '77, but it wasn't until Summer of that year that we had begged, borrowed and stolen enough equipment to actually call ourselver a band....CRASS.

Having finally managed to rehearse five songs, we set out on the road to fame and fortune armed with our instruments and huge amounts of booze to help us see it through. We did gigs and benefits, chaotic demonstrations of inadequacy and independence. We got turned off here, turned down there and banned from the now legendary Roxy Club. 'They said they only wanted well behaved boys, do they think guitars and microphones are just fucking toys?'

By now we had realised that our fellow punks, The Pistols, The Clash and all the other muso-puppets weren't doing it at all. They may like to think that they ripped off the majors, but it was Joe Public who'd been ripped. They helped no one but themselves, started another facile fashion, brought a new lease of life to London's trendy Kings Road and claimed they'd started a revolution. Same old story. We were on our own again.

Through the alchoholic haze we determined to make it our mission to create a real alternative to musie biz exploitation, we wanted to offer something that gave rather than took and, above all, we wanted to make it survive. Too many promises have been made from stages only to be forgotten on the streets..."
-more
http://www.southern.com/southern/band/CRASS/biog.html

I mean, they kicked it off. However, just for guilty listening pleasure, I'm going with RATM. I really like what Tom Morello is still doing with his activism, too.

I'm sure they would have had plenty to shout about considering they're last album was about 5 years ago.

period.

That's my vote

No, really. I must. I have been threatened with bodily harm.

Christ, I'm 35 and was 11 when they peaked and I know this. The Clash had more songs I could relate to and they were better songwriters.

RATM had a good message, but their brand of music was already done to death when their first album came out and everybody and their brother kissed their asses for it's "originality". I'm like, wait a damned second, I've been listening to stuff like this for years now.

Most modern heavy metal is pretty boring, but Morello is a creative guitar player that was always doing something different. Zach is one of the best lyricists making music. I don't think anyone out there comes close to what Rage had. I'm biased toward them since I'm a Gen Xer.