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SweetZombieJesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 08:37 PM
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Non-punk artists who are punk as fuck?
I nominate Jerry Lee Lewis, Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, Dylan, and Alex Chilton for starters.
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kixot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 08:39 PM
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1. Pink
No, seriously. I've seen her in interviews, I'd call her R&B Punk.
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RememberJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 08:49 PM
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3. Gotta agree on Pink
... she does what she wants to do. It is amazing that a record company let an artist so young in career change her image to what she wanted it to be. I would call her hip hop punk. She basks in hip hop culture but her music has taken a definite "punk" edge.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 12:52 PM
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23. I hate P!nk
But I do take the time out to spell it that completely ridiculous way that she does.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 01:23 PM
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28. Like her a lot, but not a fave
She's pop music's critics' darling - but, I recommend Lucy Woodward more for R&B/pop - her songs are catchier. Also enjoy Avril, Michelle, Rachel Farris, the new Mandy Moore, Alex Bach, and Alexandra Slate (from her single) more. I do think Pink has a good punk attitude, though, and I think she'll be around for a long time pushing boundaries - meaning I might like her even more later.

I'd also choose Fiona Apple for being punk, because she's a survivor.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 01:33 PM
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29. I Agree On Pink
Told her record company, "NO WAY! I'm not going to do a new Brittney, thing. I want to rock." Got rid of the DJ and digital sequencing and hired a live band to play behind her.

She got pipes and attitude. A nice combination.
The Professor
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 08:44 PM
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2. Good choices. Some more for your consideration.
Public Enemy
Hank Williams
The Pacific Northwest garage bands (Sonics, Wailer, Kingsmen, et al.)
Frank Sinatra
Miles Davis
Frank Zappa
Captain Beefheart
Gram Parsons
Alice Cooper
AC/DC
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 08:50 PM
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4. desi punk dub
Asian Dub Foundation

http://www.animelyrics.com/dance/asiandub/fortresseurope.htm
http://217.158.65.110/MP3/SF106636.mp3 < a small sample

We got a right, know the situation
We're the children of globalization
No borders only true connection
Light the fuse of the insurrection
This generation has no nation
Grass roots pressure the only solution
We're sitting tight
Cos assylum is a right
Put an end to this confusion
Dis is a 21st century Exodus
Dis is a 21st century Exodus
Burnin' up can we suvive re-entry
Past the landmines and cybernetic sentries
Plane, train, car, ferry boat or bus
The future is bleeding coming back at us
The chip is in your head not on my shoulder
Total control around the corner
Open up the floodgates Time's nearly up
Keep banging on the wall of Fortress Europe
Keep banging
Keep banging on the wall of Fortress Europe
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 12:42 PM
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22. Yes to Zappa
"If your children ever found out how lame you really are, they'd murder you in your sleep"

Also was one of the very few musicians to publicly stand up for the Dead Kennedys during their obscenity trial.
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 08:52 PM
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5. John Flansburgh
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Yentatelaventa Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 08:55 PM
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6. The Tubes
Proud to be an American
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 02:43 PM
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35. Must be an omen
Edited on Mon Jul-21-03 02:43 PM by Forkboy
I was just singing Wild Women of Wongo in my head!

The Tubes were great :)
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 08:57 PM
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7. Bluesmen, but definitely PAF
RL Burnside
Cedell Davis
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:03 PM
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9. Tom Waits.
If he were any punker, he'd be dead.
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 10:07 PM
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16. he's still alive?!
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 10:11 PM
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17. Alive enough to kick your sad ass, I bet...

What do you think?
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 11:18 PM
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18. the camera's been drinking
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:04 PM
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10. Don't forget T Model Ford.
I saw Cedell open for him once. Talked to both for a while (I helped carry Cedell up the stairs in his wheelchair.) T Model was hanging out by the bar chatting up 21-year-old girls!
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 08:59 PM
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8. Ian Anderson and Willie Nelson
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:17 PM
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11. Also:
Chuck Berry
Lee Perry
David Allan Coe
Chris Whitley
the late Glenn Gould
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:27 PM
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12. The WHO
The Guess Who as well
Neil Young
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Torgo Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 04:13 PM
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26. 'My Generation' was punk 20 years before there was 'punk'!
Why don't y'all just f-f-f-fade away....
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the_sam Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:30 PM
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13. Phil Ochs
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:45 PM
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14. Hell, Walt Whitman too
the original :hippie: who could :smoke: and :think: and :beer: and lots of other things with the best of them
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sham Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:53 PM
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15. Jim Carroll
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Torgo Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 04:10 PM
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25. Great choice... but I think Jim considered himself punk!
I...got...communion...

I...got...extreme unction...

I'm a Catholic Boy!

Redeemed through pain and not through joy!

Great stuff!!!!!!

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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 11:21 PM
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19. bob dylan
how much more punk can you get?
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kid shelleen Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 11:21 PM
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20. Heeeyyy Bo Diddley
Cab Calloway
Howlin' Wolf
Muddy Waters
Robert Johnson
Gene Vincent
Link Wray
Eddie Cochran
Buddy Holly
John Lee Hooker
Hasil Adkins
Carl Perkins
Ronnie Hawkins
Bullmoose Jackson (Rock!)
Roky Erickson
Louis Jordan
The Contours

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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 12:40 PM
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21. Link Wray
For his 1950's distorted guitar, the slicked-back black leather look, and songs like "rumble" (about a fight on the dance floor, decades before the mosh pit was invented), "switchblade", and "jack the ripper"

"Rumble" came out around 1956 or so. Anyone old enough here to remember it? Heard it got banned from some radio stations for being too violent, nice trick for an instrumental!
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:47 PM
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24. Hey D.Boon!
Man, that's so cool: Zappa avatar and D. Boon in your name....Do you have the other half of this amulet?

Here's a bunch for you:

Jefferson Airplane (Volunteers era)
Howlin' Wolf
Arthur Lee
Fred Frith (check out pictures of him when he was in Henry Cow - all scowl, all the time, he looked like a homeless insane person)
Slapp Happy
Pauline Kael
Anne Sexton
Jonathan Swift
Big Youth
Ben Folds
Zappa (of course!)
Sly Stone (Riot Goin' On only, though...he sounds like he truly doesn't give a fuck on that album)
Ornette Coleman
King Crimson (Bruford-Fripp-Cross-Muir-Wetton lineup only)
Magma
Marvin Gaye (Here, my Dear is true punk attitude)
Syd Barrett
Black Sabbath
Willie Alexander
Randy Newman
Steely Dan (misanthropic bastards, true punks)
U-Roy


PINK? are you people fuckin serious? What is she "getting away with" again? Please remind me. Her music is top 40 shit. She's the female Billy Idol, with added hip hop "flava" nonsense. That corporate shill dresses punk, mentions punk in interviews and press kits, and all of a sudden she's "daring" and "risk taking." Bullshit. Strip away the "sassy" image and leave only the music and it's still the same overproduced soulless pop pap, but now with guitars. Pink stinks. She's about as punk as Avril Lavigne (who is not punk at all). Turn off your MTV and go buy some real music. There's a lot of great stuff out there, if you don't mind not being part of the "in crowd."
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 02:20 PM
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33. Sorry, but what might be "real" to you
Might not be "real" to others. And what you call "unreal" isn't "unreal" just because it's pop. And you miss the point about Pink and Avril IMO. I don't need any crowds when it comes to music - that view annoys me.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Lucinda Williams and Steve Earle. Attitude galore with both.

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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 01:36 PM
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30. My band opened for Link once.
When he was 68. He RAWKED.
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Torgo Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 04:18 PM
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27. Yardbirds - the Beck era.
Can think of many shit-kicking punk tunes, but just to name two:

'I'm a Man' and 'I'm Not Talkin''.

Some early wild-ass punk!
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catpower2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 01:38 PM
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31. Lou Reed nt
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MiddleRiverRefugee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 01:57 PM
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32. As ever..Johnny Paycheck
The punkest-as-f**kest country singer, ever.

Faron Young had a little bit of punk in him - barely discernible, but still there.

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Interrobang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 02:42 PM
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34. The Insane Clown Posse
Everyone gets down on me when I call them a punk band, but they are.

The Beatles also had their punk moments (think "Revolution" and "Blue Jay Way").
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 03:43 PM
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36. Atari Teenage Riot
Edited on Mon Jul-21-03 03:44 PM by khephra
Frankly, I don't know what the hell they are in terms of genre.

I bet you thought I was going to say Marilyn Manson, didn't you?

:evilgrin:
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 08:22 PM
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37. Hmmm
Off the top of my head here-

Ray Charles
Lenny Bruce (you didn't say they had to be singers!)
Woody Guthrie
Muddy Waters
Wyclef Jean
Billie Holiday
The Kingston Trio
Tupac
BB King
Willie Nelson
Marvin Gaye
Tom T. Hall
Janis Joplin
Pete Seeger

Pink? Whatever floats your boat. :shrug:
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 08:44 PM
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38. Early Pretenders
I always thought their first album had a decidedly punk sound to it.
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BlueState Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 09:10 PM
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39. Arthur Rimbaud
Arthur Rimbaud, b. Oct. 20, 1854 d. Nov. 10, 1891

Poet, Vagabond and very much a punk.

I think this line from an online biography sums up his punkitude.

"The Parisian literati rejected him as an arrogant and boorish drunk..."

http://www.levity.com/corduroy/rimbaud.htm
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 09:18 PM
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40. First Evening
One of my favorites. Also Poor People in Church and The Foolish Virgin, but I think Drunken Boat is a little overrated.

And how funny is this- I was first introduced to Rimbaud by Eddie and the Cruisers! (I was about 12 when it came out).
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 09:23 PM
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41. The "Sonics"....
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Pikku Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 10:23 PM
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42. Nina Simone
Edited on Mon Jul-21-03 10:25 PM by Pikku
"Mississippi Goddam," remember?

Oh but this whole country is full of lies
You're all gonna die and die like flies
I don't trust you any more
You keep on saying "Go slow!"
"Go slow!"
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Jalixm Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-03 11:47 PM
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43. Heres some
Alex chilton
public enemy
manic street preachers
Atari Teenage riot/alec empire
Glenn Branca
Sonic Youth
Phil Ochs
Johnny Cash
Velvet underground/lou reed
Godsbeed You! Black Emperor
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