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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 07:02 PM
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Why don't people like sidewalks?
We don't have sidewalks in my neighborhood. When we walk in our neighborhood, we have to walk in the street. Occaisionally we encounter someone who seems to want to hit us, which can be scary and is always annoying. A number of people walk in the mornings and I carefully watch for them as I drive half asleep to work. I have to watch for children all the time. They play in the streets around here. Frankly, I am suprised that no child has been hit while I've lived there. I don't know why we don't have sidewalks. We rent our duplex and have only lived here a few years. I have seen articles about subdivisions and other neighborhoods though where the residents were extremely opposed to sidewalks in their neighborhoods. Personally, I like sidewalks and wish that they were present in our neighborhood. Shouldn't people be able to walk without fear of being hit? Shouldn't people be able to drive without fear of hitting someone?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 07:04 PM
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1. Don't know where you live but here,
we have sidewalks and people STILL WALK AND JOG IN THE STREET ANYWAY.

It drives me nuts.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 07:11 PM
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3. We have sidewalks but neighbor-morons park their cars across them
kinda defeats the purpose
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giant_robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 10:39 PM
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16. Amen to that.
It's a real problem here in the winter, because some people (or landlords) don't shovel their walks. Not only do they walk in the street, they walk as if they own the street. Bastards! :grr:
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Wabbajack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 07:08 PM
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2. My
Grandma's area doesn't have sidewalks either cause the residents didn't want to pay for them.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 07:14 PM
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5. Would they oppose it if they would be paid for by taxes?
I don't know what the situation is in her area or my area, but I remember reading an article a few years ago about the city wanting to put sidewalks in a new housing develpment and many residents showing up to oppose it.
Personally, I think sidewalks should be municipally funded. The sidewalk is technically public property because anyone can walk on it without the property owners permission. It is a public safety concern as well. Pedestrians can interfere with motor vehicle traffic on city streets.
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Wabbajack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 08:00 PM
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8. It would have been paid for by taxes
they didn't want to pay the taxes.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 07:14 PM
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4. I love sidewalks.
It irritates me to no end that some of the sidewalks around my area aren't complete. That is, one segment of sidewalk ends, and then there's just grass or dirt and the sidewalk picks up somewhere else.

I did find a route I can use to walk to the grocery store that has sidewalk the whole way, though. And there's enough sidewalk to walk to my daughter's preschool also (about 2.5 miles away).
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 07:31 PM
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6. some people don't want people walking through the neighborhood
in some regions if you're not driving you're automatically suspicious. A lot of these neighborhoods also don't have public transportation for the same reason.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 07:50 PM
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7. Isn't that sad?
Walking a bit everyday is easy, convient healthy exercise. Instead, people would rather pay a monthly fee to a gym where they drive. It seems a bit silly. Of course I suppose their reasoning goes like this: walking=cannot afford a car or walking=cannot afford a gym membership. Of course they could try this one, walking=not capable of stealing much stuff and driving an SUV or mini van=able to steal a lot of stuff.
Personally, I think that a lot of things would be better if more people walked.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 09:16 PM
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10. I prefer "totally psychotic" to "sad" as a description of that mentality.
Walking is not only great exercise, but an environmentally friendly mode of transportation that doesn't rely on fossil fuels from other countries.

I'm lucky enough to live in a neighborhood built on a human scale where it's less than a 15 minute walk to 90% of the things you'd need go out for. When I visit my folks who live in a suburb it now drives me completely fucking insane that you have to hop into a car to go anywhere. I feel imprisoned. And it's all because of the idiotic planning that rejects mixed-use zoning and demands that everyone have a giganto lawn which nobody ever seems to do anything with except mow.
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 09:43 PM
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11. even in my parents' neigborhood
Edited on Wed Mar-16-05 09:43 PM by liontamer
when you could walk to things it's frowned upon. Maybe it's cause I'm a girl but my parents always freaked and thought it was unsafe. I once walked to a friend's house(30 min walk) because it was EARTH DAY and my parents yelled at me and made me stay there till they picked me up.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 09:56 PM
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12. And people wonder why obesity is skyrocketing...
The Goddess didn't give you feet for the brake pedal and the gas pedal.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 08:01 PM
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9. all neighborhoods should have sidewalks
there should be no execuses
Residential areas should have them.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 10:06 PM
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13. because they don't want people walking
My current neighborhood does have sidewalks but the town as a whole is very unfriendly to pedestrians. In neighborhoods where I lived with no sidewalks, the purpose was to keep people from walking and "loitering." You know if people go out side there can only be one reason and that reason is to buy and sell crack so it hurts the values of the neighborhood. I'm serious. This is the way the anti-sidewalk crowd thinks. If you were a non drug dealer type worthy person, you'd be driving a car!

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Amfortas Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 10:13 PM
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14. This mentality is sick on so many levels....
when did not being able to afford a car become a vice!
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Maine Mary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 10:39 PM
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17. It's not a vice but
how would one get to work without a vehicle? :shrug:
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Amfortas Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 10:41 PM
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18. mmm...
The bus ?
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Maine Mary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 10:35 PM
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15. We have no sidewalks or children (Seriously-Kind-of) :-)
Ok we have some kids in this town... but none nearby. I think the "Johnsons" have 2 but they live on the Barron Rd.. There are some kids across town (about 6 miles from here)And I know there must be some on my Rd too because the schoolbus goes up there.

Word has it that the little elementary kids will now be sent off to nearby towns because there are not enough children to keep the school running. Thank God my kid is in college or I'd be furious. I still am but....never mind. It's a local thing. :grr:

I'd love to have sidewalks but I am thankful I have Paved Rds. Though I don't rollerskate or skatboard anymore, If I could'a, I would'a. back in the day :-)

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