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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:34 PM
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Am I the only old-timer here who has no problem with recent rules?
Those of you who have read my posts know that I hold some opinions which most would consider pretty extreme, and I'm not shy about expressing them. And yet, I don't have many threads locked or posts deleted -- not more than I did 2 or 3 years ago, at least.

What's the deal? Is it that I don't hang around the Lounge a lot? Is it that I completely agree with the rule "don't call somebody a troll, hit alert" (a mere extension of 'only a jury can pronounce a person guilty'), unless that 'somebody' is an obvious troll by any possible standard?
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:38 PM
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1. I have no problem with the rules - I'm a guest here and agreed to abide
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 09:39 PM by Seabiscuit
by them when I entered.

Just like when I visit someone's house where the rule is take your shoes off at the doorway, I take my shoes off. It's their house.
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:39 PM
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2. I have no problems with the rules either
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:39 PM
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3. That goes without saying --
-- but also, I don't feel that the rules impact my freedom of expression here. I'm not too crazy about "no sex threads" and such rules, but if I want to discuss sex, there are better places than DU. :evilgrin:
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:42 PM
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10. I agree completely. The rules don't affect my freedom of expression,
as a matter of fact, there are very few places where I can get away with saying or writing the word "fuck", and this is one of them.

I never participate in "sex threads" anyway - and if I cared enough I'd go elsewhere, but I don't. I'm married.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:40 PM
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4. don't care enuff anymore to go thru the trouble of pointing out the
obvious to the willfully obtuse.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:42 PM
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11. I don't get what you mean by that.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:40 PM
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21. Per my comment later about size of community
I get what KG means, and don't take offense even though he would consider some of my positions slightly enabling of the "fascist state" (eg I am liberal but not quite radical) - but I know that he appreciates where I am and what I say regardless.... that has more to do with having had many exchanges when this was a much smaller place. I still love the place, appreciate the need for the rules (in part due to the otherwise loud and ongoing disruption - sonme coming from a faked left position - to pretent to be liberal), but recognize that it is harder to "read" other posters when it is as large as it is today.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:40 PM
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5. Long timer responding
to what new rule are you referring (the troll/freeper/calling out thing has been an issue for my entire posting time at DU - also three years.) Is there something recent that I missed?
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:41 PM
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9. well, nothing too specific.
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 09:45 PM by Goldmund
Trumad's goodbye thread is an example: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x2836001 but I've seen many people grumble.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:44 PM
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13. The link to Trumad's goodbye thread doesn't work.
And I never saw it.

But I personally found Trumad to be pretty obnoxious.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:45 PM
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15. Sorry, I fixed it.
Can't put a coma at the end of a URL, it thinks it's a part of the URL.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:07 PM
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18. The link must be corrected,
it worked for me... his point about the size of the community is to the point. His style (more sarcastic and confrontational) was completely opposite of mine - however over the years - we came to understand and appreciate each other. Gaining a sense of where his "in your face-ness" came from - gave me a sense of perspective... and context from which to read his posts. Often a subtle point underlied the thread that was quite on the mark. Easier to see/read/understand/appreciate when it was a smaller community (and thus one had more frequent interactions with one another.)
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:04 PM
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17. Thank you for posting that
I completely missed that.. and will most certainly miss Tru... *sniff*
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:40 PM
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6. I think interpretation of the rules is dependent on
the mods, and they change frequently. honestly, I've never seen anything like a personal attack from you. Your posts are usually informative.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:41 PM
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7. I've been here just over a year
and I haven't had many threads locked or posts deleted...some people just get their panties in a bunch over the slightest change in the status quo.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:41 PM
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8. I didn't see a difference, aside from a stated position on enforcing them
but I've yet to see any results from it :shrug:
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:58 PM
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16. Well, I saw a change at the end of '04/early 05, but it seems
that things are back to normal. *ahem* *ahem*
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:42 PM
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12. Not an old timer, but they work for me ! nt
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:45 PM
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14. Deleted message
Waaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh! Poo-poo!
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:08 PM
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19. Nope. no problem with the rules.
This site belongs to Skinner, EarlG and eLad. They just let me use it. How lucky can a guy get?

I think in all the time I've been here, I've had one reply deleted, and I've never received a warning from a Mod or an Admin. I love it here. I want to keep it a place that I love to visit.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 10:22 PM
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20. This board is well run and well moderated..
... and I say that as someone who had a post deleted just today :)

I knew it would but I had something to say. I don't make a habit of it.

There are few tightropes tighter than having a board like this where people can pretty much speak their mind but there are limits. There have to be or it would devolve into a shitstorm in a hurry, I've seen it happen over and over again.

Kudos to the DUers :)
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:37 PM
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22. I'm a mid-timer who thinks even rebels need rules
that other dude who left was contradictory. DU is awesome, its that way because of the rules.

I mean, cant we all get along?
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:50 PM
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23. I really don't know what the differences are.
Edited on Thu Mar-17-05 11:51 PM by Ladyhawk
Bad on my part, I guess. I recently had two threads locked and I personally didn't think either of them were "calling out" another DUer. :shrug: But since this Democratic Underground is an oligarchy--is that ironic?--I don't have a say. When I signed up, I signed up knowing I didn't have a say as to how the rules are enforced.

As more and more people join DU, the rules will probably become more stringent. I guess that's the way it has to be.
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