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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:06 AM
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Should I get on my knee?
I don't think so.

I admit that you guys made me cry on Sunday. I felt so damn sad. Not only sad, ashamed too.

Reading your posts, I had come to the conclusion that I was an hypocrite and an obnoxious woman.

But...

What if I tell you that sometimes I have no clue what's so ever about what's wrong and what's O.K. socially?

I spend most of my time alone in my head. Have been doing it for what's seems like a century.

I chose, a long time ago, to try DIFFERENT ways to relate to people.

I know now that it was the wrong conclusion cause it keeps on bringing problems. Relationship problems. Cyber one or human one.

I am learning the hard way that I cannot indulge in being 2 or 3 different persons.

For the others it looks like I am not myself...

Good grief! Why can't it be multiple ways of being myself?


So I am asking you, the Loungers, if it's possible : Please do not pass a judgment before checking if what you perceived as The reality about somebody is The only one possible.


P.S. I envy all of you who can escape reality and acknowledge it.

lise
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:13 AM
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1. well, I'm not qualified to answer...
...because I don't know what you're talking about-- I presume you said something that resulted in a piling on? My advice is to not sweat it, but do learn from the experience-- this is a diverse and rather easy-going community.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:15 AM
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2. I tend to think not
but I don't know what you said. It seems to me if people made you cry, they also behave badly. A lot of people do that without even caring. You evidently care about what you said. That puts you ahead of some. If you care to share the story, I'd be interested. But if you don't want to, that's cool too.
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:30 AM
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4. Ty imenja and mike_c
You weren't there last saturday and sunday night and I know that my post was not very clear for those who weren't there those 2 days.


I will come back to you with the link. Mind you , I don't find it easy.

I still have too, if I want to make sense.


lise
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:27 AM
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3. You sound a lot like me. Exactly like me.
I've lived my life in my mind. The ultimate introvert, and its not fun most of the time. It was one of the reasons for my divorce.
Damn!
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Jesus Saves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:34 AM
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5. Yes
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 02:35 AM by Jesus Saves
Find something to serve, and serve it well.

(Just pick carefully.)
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:35 AM
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6. yup I remember your thread where you insulted the whole lounge
the responses to this thread you started is what must have made you "cry". all i can say is that you get what you give.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=2824076
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:40 AM
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7. Hadn't seen that yet. Now this thread makes some sense.
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:41 AM
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8. You found the thread allright.
can you understand that I did not have the Intention to talk down to anybody?

I realised afterwards that it could be interpreted that way.


lise
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:41 AM
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9. I remember that thread
I disagreed with it, but if people took it so personally they were abusive to you, that really sucks. There was nothing insulting about your thread. It was your opinion. DU, like a lot of places, have a go along with the group kind of attitude. People that express ideas that vary from the majority aren't appreciated. I disagreed with your post, but I certainly have no personal animosity toward you as a result. I think it's ridiculous that anyone would. So much for freedom of expression. You are NOT a hypocritical or obnoxious woman, not if that is the extent of the evidence.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:48 AM
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10. Don't worry about it, lise
I read the thread that was referred to and I can understand it. Some threads are about exciting as dirt to me, but to others...not.

Chalk it up to a mistake on your part, don't sweat it and move on.

I would suggest if you have topics you want to discuss, start a new thread. You're bound to get some responses.

Respond to the ones that interest you or are passionate about.

To people who might have been offended my opinion is: Forgive and forget. There are more important things to get worked up about in this life.

My two cents.
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:50 AM
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11. Wonderfully put.
:hi:
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:51 AM
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12. "There are more important things to get worked up about."
You're right.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:52 AM
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13. People can post whatever they want, as long as they don't break the rules
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 02:54 AM by Floogeldy
If you don't like a thread topic, don't read it.

Otherwise, don't try to tell people what to post or what not to post.

You'll be happier.

Thanks,

Floog

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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:52 AM
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14. People can post whatever they want, as long as they don't break the rules
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 02:55 AM by Floogeldy
If you don't like a thread topic, don't read it.

Otherwise, don't try to tell people what to post or what not to post.

You'll be happier.

Thanks,

Floog

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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:54 AM
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15. Floog, I see two of you
I second that and that :B-)
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:56 AM
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16. Heh heh
Its a browser malfunction thing, I guess. I feel so inferior.

x(
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:59 AM
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17. Thank goodness
I thought it was the four fuzzy navels I drank tonight :beer:
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Godai Kyoko Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:11 AM
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18. If I am not for myself, who will be for me. If I am only for myself, who
If I am not for myself, who will be for me. If I am only for myself, who am I?


It is a fine line between personal integrety and slavery. Best just to rmember the golden rule. (Not the Haliburton Golden Rule, The other one.

To your own self be true.
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:39 AM
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19. Godai Kyoko, welcome to DU and let me ask you a question


Can't I be true to myself even thou I chose to express myself in many different ways?

If I am true to myself it is implied that I am true to the others.

It is the only acceptable slavery. To be true, all the time.

For me it is a synonym of courage and integrity. The only possible connection with the rest of the Universe.


lise
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:29 AM
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20. When you insult a whole goddamn community
by calling them boring because as you said, they don't entertain you enough, you better expect some feedback.

And it will be honest, just as you were honest in your post.
If you really spent Sunday crying, then you asked for it. You hung yourself out to dry, to use a cliche.

I really don't know what else you should have expected. A red fucking carpet welcoming you to DU?

You ask, "Please do not pass a judgment before checking if what you perceived as The reality about somebody is The only one possible."

I know you think you're some kind of genius, but that's a horribly written sentence, meant to confuse the illiterate.

Basically, you're asking us not to judge you on our first impression -- but you did just that with your insulting post.

Here is my unofficial motto of DU: "Come as you are, but be prepared for what you get."

Having said all that, welcome to DU.

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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:29 AM
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21. Dupe -
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 04:31 AM by RagingInMiami
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:34 AM
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22. English is my second language: re:
"I know you think you're some kind of genius, but that's a horribly written sentence, meant to confuse the illiterate."


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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:42 AM
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23. Well pardon my French
You gave us a horrible first impression.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 12:09 AM
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24. I have to say I don't understand why people are so easily insulted
She gave her opinion about posts in the lounge. I disagreed with it as well, but why does disagreement need to be such a big deal? If the particular thread linked above is the extent of her so-called crimes, I have to say I don't see why people are making such a big deal about it. Why can't people have disagreements without despising the person with whom they disagree?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 12:17 AM
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25. If you're gonna pull a tiger's tail, you have no right to cry when it
Edited on Sat Mar-19-05 12:17 AM by Rabrrrrrr
bites you. You do, however, have EVERY right to learn a very valuable lesson.

I'm sorry you cried on Sunday, but: you are the one who pulled the tail.

I don't believe in holding people emotionally hostage, which is what you are, apparently, trying to do: "Don't criticize me, even if I insult you, because then I might cry".

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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:14 AM
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27. someone needs to explain this to me
How did she insult you or anyone else? She merely said she'd prefer to see different sorts of posts in the lounge. She expressed an opinion. You disagreed, as did I for that matter. How is that insulting anyone? Expressing a view that differs from the majority is an insult?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 12:26 AM
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26. That happens.
Don't worry about it.

Hey, you're famous. :)
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