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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:18 AM
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Did you like/not like "Eyes Wide Shut"?
I'm watching it for the second time and I think that from a directorial point of view it is brilliant. Unfortunately I don't think that it stands out from Kubrick's other work as being particularly exceptional. The story is a bit thin in places and the characters aren't very well developed. "Eyes Wide Shut" is overly scrutinized, being Kubrick's swan song, which sets the film up for expectations that are impossible realize. I think it would be a lot more popular as his "second to last" film. Over all I like it because of it's examination of human sexual inhibitions and for Kubrick's ever present exploration into the darkness of the human psyche. Out of Kubrick's oeuvre, I believe "Eyes Wide Shut" stands together with "Full Metal Jacket", good but not great, definitely not up there with "A Clockwork Orange", "The Shining", "2001: A Space Odyssey" or "Dr. Strangelove"
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:21 AM
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1. Kubrick does fascinating things with light...
....such as the christmas lights in 'eyes.'
it's probably worth watching for that alone.
but as a story, it left me confounded....
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:23 AM
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2. I think it's amazing...
hypnotic flick...

Yes, I think it is great... but expect the majority of people to say it's crap.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:24 AM
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3. it was f***ing terrible
I really disliked it
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:24 AM
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4. Compared to Kubricks other works I would rate it weak
compared to other films I would rate it very good. Though I believe the editing could have been done a lot better though I understand why they barely touched it. If he had lived I would probably be rating it excellent.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:24 AM
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5. I liked it
But then, I'm a huge Kubrick head
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:25 AM
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6. Agree with your assessment.
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 12:25 AM by Old Crusoe
I like the final project pretty well, but would have preferred another male lead instead of Tom Cruise. Maybe Jonathan Rhys-Myers. I don't know. Somebody.

Agree on all points, Goathead.
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I Clenis Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:25 AM
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7. I don't know. I fell asleep both times I tried to watch it.
Perhaps that is a sign.

At least I saw some naked chicks before I succumbed.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:25 AM
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8. I liked it. didn't Spielberg finish it up for him after he died?
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 12:25 AM by jonnyblitz
I know Kubrick died before it was completed.
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:27 AM
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10. Spielburg pieced together a lot of Kubrick's ideas for A.I.
they were gonna collaborate on it or something
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:28 AM
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11. I heard he finished up "eyes wide shut" and many of the hardcore
Kubrik fans thought his influence "tainted" the movie.
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:31 AM
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15. wow
strange relationship between K & S

I mean, Kubrick is abstraction & Spielberg is (generally) commercialism. But apparently they were close :shrug:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:26 AM
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9. Haaated it!


Seriously. What a terrible way for a wonderful filmmaker to go out.

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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:29 AM
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13. No snaps up in a circle?
Awwwwwwww... too bad.:D
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:29 AM
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12. The thing about Kubrick is that he was in love with process
He overdid almost everything, and his films suffer for it. 2001 is brilliant but pedantic and boring. Eyes Wide Shut had a number of good moments, but falls apart under the sheer weight of 'staggering genius' trying to inform the movie. You have to sit through a lot of crap to get to the good stuff. He could never just tell the story; he had to infuse it with allegory and irony and pacing and technical perfection repeated endlessly like a Bach cantata, beating us over the head with it to make sure we got it. Basically his brain got away from him. The punchline that ends the movie wraps up the longest-running joke I've ever seen.

Eraserhead, I movie I can hardly bear to watch, has much more to offer than most Kubrick fare. I don't mean to diss him. I think he was great. But as a director, he was into this filmic masturbation that ruined his best efforts, and Eyes is a perfect example.
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 01:04 AM
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22. ^^^ (what he said) ^^^

Head of nail, meet hammer.


MDN
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:31 AM
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14. i don't know if i didnt like it because Tom Cruise was in it or not
I wonder how it would have been with an actor.
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Midnight Rambler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:41 AM
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16. I've only seen about half the movie.
I'm a Kubrick fan, but I will withhold judgement until I have the oppportunity to see the entire film.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:43 AM
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17. adored it....
as somebody said above, it's hypnotic. Visually, it's just mesmerizing.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:44 AM
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18. it's boring and it sucks
nothing like his great films
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liberal43110 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:46 AM
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19. Didn't like it
The lights throughout were beautiful. But that's the only positive thing I can say about it. Terrible character development, terrible story, terrible script...terrible movie.
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:48 AM
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20. SK is the man!
I love anything by Kubrick. I think the problem that people have with it is that it is a dreamlike story and is taken too literally. You should check these sites for interpretations of the film:

Not bad:
http://www.cinephiles.net/Eyes_Wide_Shut/Cinephiles-Gate.html

VERY esoteric:
http://www.thefilmjournal.com/issue8/eyeswideshut.html
http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/amk/doc/0107.html

These are the probably the best two I've read; the one by Tim Kreider on the lipmagazine link is quite good:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1111/is_1793_299/ai_55881919
http://www.lipmagazine.org/articles/revicontent_102.htm

Also read the revised book Kubrick: Inside A Film Artist's Maze chapter on EWS by Thomas Allen Nelson...
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 01:40 AM
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23. This is right on:
http://www.thefilmjournal.com/issue8/eyeswideshut.html

When you examine the film you see that neither main character actually gets laid. Then at the end, the film pokes fun at itself with Nicole Kidman's final words.
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 01:43 AM
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24. Also this:
http://www.cinephiles.net/Eyes_Wide_Shut/Cinephiles-Gate.html

sound, such as voices plus external and internal music

as in the beginning when you think the intro music is part of the soundtrack then, he turns the stereo off.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:54 AM
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21. Boring. Overwrought. Unneedfully explicit. n/t
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