Our neighbor's 10 year-old son called my wife the "B" word...

They live next to the back of our property, and the kids think it's their right to trespass. They have plenty of other places to play besides our property. My wife ran them off the other day, and then went and bought some NO TRESPASSING signs. When she went down to post them, the kids' mother came out and started yelling at her about being a terrible neighbor. My wife just ignored her. A little while later, my wife was standing out by the road in front of our house talking to our "nice" neighbor when the kid came by on his mini-bike. As he passed, he yelled, "We're gonna tear them signs down, b++++!" He took off before my wife could respond.

We've had a lot of problems with these people. They make noise all night among other things.

We're trying to figure out why it's OK for them to piss us off; but if we piss them off, they feel like they can harass us. Go figure.

Also, I've had neighbors like that. The unfortunate fact of the matter is, there will always be assholes in the world.

Even worse, obviously they also breed.

Barbed wire goes up this week.

Make sure you have witnesses that hear you say that too.

if their mom can't teach them the diffefence between right and wrong let the police scare the crap out of them.

I f'ing hate parents like this.

they're not afraid of them.

Good Luck.. I don't envy you that mess.

so that's no good.

These things don't end well without proof.

We're afraid they'll get hurt. We have a steep gully that runs down to a stream, and lots of trees to run into -- and LOTS of briars. Not to mention wild critters and bad insects.

I don't blame you. Do what you need to do, Tom.

Plus, if any of those kids DO get hurt, just wait for the lawsuits.

I would definitely document the instances where you told the kids and the parents to please stay off your property.

At my last house, kids used to jump over my fence and into my yard to steal fruit off my trees. I asked them numerous times NOT to do this, as I have large dogs. Oy, was that a disaster waiting to happen.

and get a copy of their report

even if you do not know they are there

Unfortunately, there are enough ambulance chasers out there who would pick your bones over something that is not your fault

Man, that sucks!! You don't have a dog out in the yard do you? I was just thinking about how some idiotic neighbors take their hate out on pets. :-(

Are they just renting or are they long-term neighbors?

They'd have to come way up into our property to get to him. They're renters, so we expect them to be gone soon.

That's easy enough to do, and write to the landlord, cataloging what they've been doing. If possible, get other neighbors to write, as well. Be real polite and respectful, and make the letter conspiratorial: "As a fellow property owner, I am certain you'd want to know that your property ........."

Like that.

See what happens.

Good luck.

he says that there's nothing he can do.

he can not renew the lease.

He knows all about what's going on.

and leave it where they walk or ride.

Make sure you have a lot of doo doo so they can't avoid it.

If there are any roaming dogs around you could collect dog urine and deposit it somewhere where other dogs will make a point of whizzing.

Just don't get caught. If you are unable to not get caught then don't do it.

If it was summertime you could leave a rotted fish near their dryer vent

Oh wait, sorry that is advice I would give on Free Republic, not here.

On that note, just chase them off again!

;)

as if it were our own.

In retrospect, I realize that I drove them crazy, but they were always incredibly nice to us (even though I know they didn't particularly like my family that much). They were incredibly friendly -- or at least, just kind, and funny, and asked us questions about us, like they were interested in our lives.

My generation grew up, and that was the end of people trampling all over their back garden, and everybody likes each other now.

but these people have cussed us out for politely asking them to turn their music down at midnight. How do you deal with people who don't care about anything but themselves?

I don't know.

That would probably mean video or photo (timestamped) evidence...

Or you could be creative and put something on the signs or on the ground that would leave evidence on the trespassers' shoes or skin... like food coloring.

they've been having trouble with someone ringing their door and running away.

They put a recorder in their car and caught the culprit kind of red handed.

Turns out when they looked at the tape they could only laugh.

A boy who looked like a third grader came up and started peeing on their stoop. He looked like he was having a great time writing his name and everything. Then he rang the bell and ran away. They said they never even noticed any wet spots before.

Oh well.

...you could plant a bunch of poison ivy/oak back there. That'd end the incursions right quick.

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Seriously though, I like that other suggestion -- that you consider notifying their landlord. Include a line like, "If they're treating your house anything like they've been treating my property out back, I think you have cause for serious concern."

we figure he doesn't care.

My wife came home late the other night after a long day at work and found someone parked in our reserved spot (parking is tight in our townhouse neighborhood, thus each home has one reserved spot in front of their house). We've given up trying to go door to door trying to find who owns the offending car, and anyway it was after 11:00 - not a good time to be aknockin'. So after waiting for 20 minutes we decided to call a tow truck, but just before they answered the people returned to their car. My wife went out to move her car and told them they were lucky because we were calling a tow truck. The woman apologized and drove away. A few days later our car was keyed and the windshield busted.

What a coincidence.

he probably got all macho-angry and came over to vandalize your car.

They're legal and effective and not much of a power drain.

Also, file assault and trespassing charges. I hate to advocate that, but the child is just mirroring what he sees at home, and is unlikely to learn to respect and accept others from his family, so the rest of society will have to do it.

We used to hop the electric fence into a neighboring field all the time when I was a kid. I can see it being a deterrant to a cow or other farm animal, but to a ten year old, it's just a really cool toy.

You can take turns daring each other to lick on it, pee on it, touch it with a blade of grass, jump over it...

Electric fences are not legal in some places. Furthermore, they can, in some cases, open one to liability lawsuits, should a child be injured on one.

Where I grew up, we had this one neighbor who did put up an electric fence -- right next to our property, and my youngest brother was only three years old. We were terrified that Tom would wander on over and grab the thing.

Then we found out that these fences are in fact illegal in non-farm zoned areas in our township. After reporting it, these neighbors had to switch to barbed.

I had a mental list of which yards were "safe" and which were off limits. By abiding that list, my families relations with even gruff neighbors managed to remain cordial.

This kid has no such map, and his mom clearly doesn't value cordial relations.

Video tape your no trespassing signs before they get torn down. If you can, tape the kids in your backyard while the signs are still up. You might even tape while you shoo the kids off. You might luck out and get one ripping down a sign to show you what for.

Once you have evidence, call the police back. There's little they can do when it's just one neighbors word against another. But when there's evidence they have more options.

Sorry. Bad neighbors suck. Good luck.

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so I don't want to go to jail for kicking his ass. If it had been an adult, I don't know what would've happened. I have a short temper when it comes to idiots.

If he'd said something like that to my mother, e.g., I'm not sure I wouldn't have risked a battery charge. Maybe not his teeth, but he'd certainly have found sitting down an unpleasant experience for a few days, if I'd been wearing a belt...

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he likes to yell at my wife and daughter. I've never caught him on the property, but my wife has. I'm usually at work when it happens. If I ever catch him, he'll get a good talking to.

It'll keep them from trespassing on your property.

It'll also alert the cops that the family, especially their little monster, needs to be watched.

we've called them a million times.

And every time the little brats come trespassing, give them a bath.

Oh, yeah, and install an electric fence too. That'll show 'em!

booby traps will take care of those pests