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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 05:46 PM
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Suburbia is death.
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 05:50 PM by Bouncy Ball
Soccer fields as far as the eye can see
High voltage power lines

Yards all look the same, neatly manicured and trim
houses all look the same, can't leave a field empty, gotta have more

STRIP MALLS STRIP MALLS STRIP MALLS STRIP MALLS STRIP MALLS STRIP MALLS STRIP MALLS STRIP MALLS STRIP MALLS STRIP MALLS STRIP MALLS STRIP MALLS STRIP MALLS STRIP MALLS STRIP MALLS STRIP MALLS STRIP MALLS STRIP MALLS STRIP MALLS

Box stores

Suburbia is anarchy
chaos no center

a body with no heart

SUVs all the same, ribbon magnets, all the same

hot stinky pavement

Humanity peeping out at me from a drive-through window
never able to name that small feeling of unease
which outlines our lives

Suburbia is death
I need my heart to race
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 05:49 PM
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1. april fools, david brooks!
i can see you coming a mile away!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 05:49 PM
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2. Eh?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 05:52 PM
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3. As the crowd snaps their fingers in knowing approval
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 05:53 PM
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4. No crowd here
no finger snapping here

no life and no breath

only tires and pavement and death

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 05:56 PM
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7. Sounds like my town....Nail, salon, pizza place, video store
charmless subdivisons in various shades of beige and then repeat the strip mall but maybe in the next one there is a chinese food place or a Target.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 05:59 PM
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8. Or maybe for variety,
a tire store. Or a Payless shoe store. Or 16,334 churches on one street.

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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 05:54 PM
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5. What?
You don't recognize organized perfection when you see it?
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 05:55 PM
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6. Nothing organized about anarchy.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:03 PM
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11. lol
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:01 PM
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9. Just watched "The end of Suburbia"
Have you seen it yet?:scared: Suburbia's on it's way out.......
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:02 PM
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10. What is that? A show, a movie, a documentary?
Good. Good riddance to it. It's spiritually void. It has no soul. No heartbeat. My theory is, even the people who live in suburbs who claim to be happy aren't truly happy, but they just can't put their finger on it.

It's insiduous. We've busted up some of the best farmland in the country for nail salons and all you can eat pizza.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:03 PM
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12. I like all you can eat pizza.
:P
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:05 PM
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15. I like it, too.
I'd like it better if it were on a bustling city street with a bagel store, a florist, an art gallery, a coffee shop, some apartment buildings, and the pulse of human freaking LIFE.
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:05 PM
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13. It's a documentary on peak oil
About how unsustainable the american dream of suburban life is.I think we're all gonna find out soon enough!
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:05 PM
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14. I just sent you a message about "End of Suburbia" ...
It's a recent documentary.

http://www.endofsuburbia.com
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:07 PM
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16. suburbia is the opposite of anarchy
what would that be? totalitarianism? fascism? homeowners' associations?
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:09 PM
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17. No, I posit that, in a weird way that
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 06:11 PM by Bouncy Ball
maybe no one has thought about before, it IS anarchy.

Think about it: there's no CENTER to a burb for all of the place to revolve around. It's just......spread spread spread sprawl sprawl sprawl. If there's a piece of land fucking PUT something on it to make money! Lots of money! Damn any consequences! WHO CARES? No downtown, no center, just spread like a bad disease or like that slime in 1950's scifi B movies that kills everyone and just spreads its noxiousness everywhere.

And yet, it's one of the oddest forms of anarchy ever developed by humans because it contains within it the STRONGEST element of conformity you could imagine.

Anarcho-conformity.

Dear God, it's horrifying. Anarcho-conformity. I know, I know, they are contradictory, but therein lies the true horror that is suburbia.

Thank you for helping me flesh that out.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:12 PM
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18. Oh hey, while i think about the strip malls there is one
bit of good news here, we just got an independent record store here, i almost passed out when i drove by it the other day, now i'm waiting on an independent bookseller to move in.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:18 PM
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21. I have to say....
....What you have just said is really profound.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:21 PM
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24. Thanks, I'm feeling really profoundly angsty today.
LOL
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demily Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:19 PM
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22. YES
I grew up in a 'burb of Dallas, and that's what always drove me crazy -- there was no CENTER of town. Towns need a heart, whether it be a historical downtown area, or a body of water, something for everything else to grow out of. Growing up in a place like that just makes you feel lost and rootless...god I hated it. Got out of there as fast as I could.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:20 PM
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23. I live in a suburb of Dallas.
My soul is dying. I make frequent trips to the center of Austin, to the gorgeous hill country, to anywhere I can with life. With a center. With vitality. Color. Something.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:27 PM
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41. The hill country is really gorgeous
My brother lives in Houston and when I go to visit we meet in Austin and hang out there.

The last time I was there we drove over to the hill country. Now that is a special place.

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aeolian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:40 PM
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30. Damn, well said! (n/t)
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:12 PM
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19. Amen to that
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 06:14 PM by Goathead
McMansions as far as the eye can see in my county. No end in site. People call it "progress", but all it is is death.

Sprawling on the fringes of the city
In geometric order
An insulated border
In between the bright lights
And the far unlit unknown

Growing up it all seems so one-sided
Opinions all provided
The future pre-decided
Detached and subdivided
In the mass production zone

Nowhere is the dreamer
Or the misfit so alone
Subdivisions ---
In the high school halls
In the shopping malls
Conform or be cast out
Subdivisions ---
In the basement bars
In the backs of cars
Be cool or be cast out
Any escape might help to smooth
The unattractive truth
But the suburbs have no charms to soothe
The restless dreams of youth

Drawn like moths we drift into the city
The timeless old attraction
Cruising for the action
Lit up like a firefly
Just to feel the living night

Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight

Somewhere out of a memory
Of lighted streets on quiet nights...
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:13 PM
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20. Did you write that?
It's good.
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:21 PM
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25. No it's RUSH
I should have put that on the post, sorry.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:23 PM
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26. Give me a small town or a big old city anytime. Just never ever
make me live in a suburb again.

I spent one year on the outskirts of a suburb and it was the most hateful experience of my life.

I think they lack character, beauty and history. They discourage walking. It's harder to develop a sense of community in a 'burb.




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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:24 PM
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27. There's no one out on the street.
Streets are empty, except big ol' SUVS.

There's no one on the front porches or stoops, because there aren't any front porches or stoops.

There's no beauty in the flowers the city workers plant every few months on the little ends of the medians. They get torn apart by the wind and pollution. The mulch flies into the street. They die quickly. And no one even notices them to begin with.

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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:35 PM
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28. Who's American Dream was this, anyway?
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:41 PM
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31. Not mine.
My great-grandparents moved from the country to the city.

My grandparents stayed in the city.

My parents ran to the suburbs in the 70s.

And here I am.

With my child, waiting to get out.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:21 PM
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39. I grew up in a town of 5,000 people near the BWCA
Moved from there to a burb near Minneapolis with my new hubbie and just despised it.

We moved to St. Paul after a year and I've lived in several neighborhoods ever since and I love them all. You can walk or ride your bike to work, school, grocery store, restaurants, bars, eye doctor. Whatever you need. I live in the oldest part of town and there's interesting architecture. There are young, old, rich, poor, white, black, and brown people all around me. I'm within walking distance of three colleges and I can use their library or swimming pool. On warm nights we are all out sitting on our steps or porches. Almost every street has a block party in the summer where they block off the streets and we have a potluck, the little kids have bike races, and sometimes a fire station will bring a firetruck by and let the kids play on it. Sometimes local candidates for office will come by to talk about issues.

It's different from what I grew up with, but I really like it. I live in an apartment with my 13 y.o. and the rent's not bad. I work out of my home so I don't have to drive.

Ex-husband lives about eight blocks from me and my daughter now, which is just about right.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:04 PM
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34. that's why those people end up joining cults, leagues, churches or spend
their lives watching tv.
cause if you don't join stuff, there is no life.
sheesh, i hate the sururbs. i used to find them facinating when i was a kid because ihad never seen such space, but yuck, they're all the same. and apparently, that's the point.
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aeolian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:39 PM
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29. Ahmen, Brother! (Or sister...I don't know...)
Ahmen, Sibling!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:43 PM
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32. Sister, but that's cool, call me whatever you want.
Just don't call me late to supper.

My stepmother always said that.
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:56 PM
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33. PSB lyrics
:P

Lost in the high street, where the dogs run
Roaming suburban boys
Mother’s got a hairdo to be done
She says they’re too old for toys
Stood by the bus stop with a felt pen
In this suburban hell
And in the distance a police car
To break the suburban spell

Let’s take a ride, and run with the dogs tonight
In suburbia
You can’t hide, run with the dogs tonight
In suburbia

Break the window by the town hall
Listen, the siren screams
There in the distance, like a roll call
Of all the suburban dreams

Let’s take a ride, and run with the dogs tonight
In suburbia
You can’t hide, run with the dogs tonight
In suburbia

I only wanted something else to do but hang around
I only wanted something else to do but hang around
I only wanted something else to do but hang around
I only wanted something else to do but hang around

It’s on the front page of the papers
This is their hour of need
Where’s a policeman when you need one
To blame the colour tv?

Let’s take a ride, and run with the dogs tonight
In suburbia
You can’t hide, run with the dogs tonight
In suburbia

Take a ride, and run with the dogs tonight
In suburbia
You can’t hide, run with the dogs tonight
In suburbia

Run with the dogs tonight
In suburbia
You can’t hide
In suburbia
In suburbia
In suburbia
In suburbia
In suburbia
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:05 PM
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35. i got the cure for you, right here, missy!
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:08 PM
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36. I think you'll have to get over it.
I grew up in the suburbs. I live in the suburbs. I'm fine.



capri pants...minivan...preschool...home depot...



No. Really. I'm fine.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:23 PM
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40. Of course you are!
:7
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:12 PM
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37. check out Kunstler's "Eyesore of the Month" from a while back ...
'Specially for you, Bouncy!





"In the middle distance, check out the new playground for this Coatesville, PA, conventional apartment 'complex.' In perfect conformity with our knucklehead zoning laws, the playground occupies its own separate pod so as not to 'contaminate' the other 'activities' in the 'complex' with 'undesirable' byproducts -- i.e. the squeals of children at play. I like to imagine the attached parking lot implies that children will drive to the 'facility' themselves. But of course, the truth is that Mom will drive them there. Since they won't be walking, the tots will have to play extra-hard on the jungle gym to work off the calories from those super-sized Happy Meals they get off-site in the nearby fried food ghetto. Thanks to Sandy Sorlien of Philadelphia's University of the Arts for the photo."

Plus, he has some ironic landscape paintings ...





http://www.kunstler.com/
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:17 PM
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38. It isn't anarchy.
Anarchy is individualistic, random and empowers people. The suburbs remove all originality and uniqueness. They are top-down uniformity. Suburbia is fascism.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:30 PM
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42. It's not regular anarchy.
It's a strange kind of pseudo-anarchy. It's like the WORST aspects of anarchy and none of the good. Anarcho-conformity.

Blows your mind, eh? I came up with that term.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:35 PM
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43. The term is an oxy-moron.
I just looked at your other post to the person who made a similar statement to mine.
The fact that there is no city center is reflective of the fact that the people who live there aren't in charge of their community. The power in the community doesn't rest with the people who live there. The power rests in the hands of some corproate planners who built the subdivision, the strip mall, and decided when the right time was to put a new Barnes and Nobles at that spot. The town had no center or soul because it is a community built by corporations based on corproate values, which is fascism.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:36 PM
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44. EXACTLY RIGHT!
That explains the lack of soul, the lack of vibrancy, the lack of a beating heart.

It's not human, but it's inhabited by humans.

It is hell.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:52 PM
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45. Suburbia
We are born, we consume, breed and then die. Those who attempt to break this cycle are considered 'odd', 'weird' and 'out of the mainstream'.

The suburban experience seens to be intent on heightening these capitalist ideals of "born, consume and die" with it's commercialism, lack of identity and souless malls.

I wonder if suburbia is a symptom rather than the cause of the soulessness or vice-versa?

I hope you get out sooner rather than later.
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