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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:20 PM
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Holy cats! I just got into a fistfight with my neighbour!!!! (long rant)
I haven't been in a bona-fide fight since, probably 10th grade!

A little background: this guy used to be the Strata president of the building, and he designed/developed it, too. His wife seemed nice enough. My first meeting with him was the day I moved in, when he came over (no hello or anything) and started to complain about the little hand-truck I was usung to move in being in the hall. I explaind that it was in the hall because I was using it, I hadn't finished moving in, etc...all this after moving crap all day. So Mr Sunshine wanders off mumbling something about "you're bringing this on yourself"...and..."when you live with other people you have to follow rules", etc. As if I was just out of Campus or something.

Bottom-line, the guy's a sorry, 45 year old rich tightass.

Today's scenario: I am still trying to get this Jeep back together in the parking garage. I admit it's unsightly, but I didn't expect it to be there so long...anyway. It's not breaching any strata bylaws, and the chaos and the detritus of parts is confined to my space only.

A friend is helping me under the hood, and we're rushing to get everything done before the light gets too poor.

It just so happens, neighbour-guy's space is right beside mine...

So, neighbour-guy comes home in his Ford 5-350 Compensator, and mumbles something about me working in the garage. I say "I didn't expect to be, but it'll be done soon".

So, he walks away mumbling how it's making the place look like a slum, and I say again that as soon as I can get it done, It'll be all pretty again.

He says "nice attempt at an apology", and I say "I wasn't apologising, because I'm not sorry; I'm just telling you what it is".

So he comes up and pokes his finger in my shoulder-blades, and quacks about how I'm bringing the tone of the place down, and there's oil everywhere (there isn't), and how the place looks like a slum (in his defence, it is the nicest building in the worst part of Victoria...the property across the street is an autobody place filled with wrecked taxis, and the other neighbour is a scrap-metal dealer...think "Sanford & Son". So, yeah, I'm really raining on his upper middle-class parade with my hoodless Jeep).

But I digress.

So I say that I understand how the facade of gentrification is so important to little men like him and that as soon as possible, I'll put everything in the world back in balance, and he wanders off with a "fuck you", and "everybody's sick of your bullshit" type remarks.

I am Jack's raging embarassment gland.

And he also makes some crack about how the police had been looking for me a few months ago, and what did they want (those faithful readers of mine will remember how my ex-wife thought it would be amusing to have someone call my psychologist and tell him I was suicidal, causing him to send a distess team to my home)... so I say, basically it's none of your business, little man, and if you've said your piece, get lost. He won't let that go...he keeps taliking about how the police probably came because I was an abusive spouse (again, untrue, and not at all what I want my friend to hear in any event), so I say to him...look, if you want to hear why the police here here, I'll tell you, but in private, and I say to him step over to a more secluded part of the garage and I'll tell him (and I was genuine...I figured, if he's talking about it, the other neighbours are, too, so why not diffuse the rumour?)

So I say to him, look, the police were here because...blah blah blah, "not that it's any of your business....and, by the way, if you ever touch me again, I'll break your fingers". "so this grown man says "you haven't got the guts", and jumps me!!!!!!!!!!!

So as I'm flying back against the wall, I swing and clock him right in the eye, knocking his glasses off... it was reflex. BOOM! He swings and catches me in the cheek, cutting the inside of my mouth, and jumps me... we go tumbling down this corridor, his glasses getting trampled in the process...and we're a pile on the floor.

I'm yelling to my friend: "CALL 911! CALL 911!", and at some point, my friend shows up to try and break us up.

Neighbour Guy tries to get me in a headlock and manages to get a partial one. Rips my shirt and coveralls. He graps a hunk of my hair and starts pulling.

I am Jack's seeething rage.

I am Jack's all-singing, all-dancing, Vegas-headlining adrenal gland.

So I reach behind and stick my thumb in the guy's eye while back-kicking this guy in the package as hard as I can. And I'm like "let go at the count of three, or lose the eye, fucker. Let go at the count of three, or lose the eye. 1-2-3." So he lets go and so do I.

My friend reluctantly gets between us and sends Neighbour Guy away. He scurries up to his littler bourgeois enclave and call the cops. I call them, too, but too late. The unit that responds to the call sees him first, and by the time they respind to my call, they've already had Neighbour Guys's story.

So I get one understanding cop, and one COMPLETE ASSHOLE with a FLATTOP. The ASSHOLE FLATTOP is like, "WE'RE COPS NOT KINDERGARTEN TEACHERS AND WE CAN TELL YOU'RE FUCKING LYING!!"

I say "Look, I don't want to charge the guy...I just want you to go over there and tell him not to confront me anymore." ASSHOLE FLATTOP COP is like twenty years old, with this Opie flat-top, and he's like (and I'm typing it in allcaps because that's how he speaks) "LISTEN BUDDY WE KNOW ALL ABOUT YOU AND IF WE HAVE TO COME DOWN HERE WE'RE TAKING YOU AWAY FOR ASSAULT, NOT HIM. HE DOESN'T WANT TO CHARGE YOU EITHER (well, duh, thinks I). WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT YOU", and blah blah blah.

So I'm like, "whoa, pardner, jest hol' up a sec...I called you! ", and he's like "NO WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO AND YOU'RE ON SHAKY GROUND MISTER. IF YOU TWO CAN'T PLAY NICE IN THE SANDBOX I'M TAKING YOU IN AND YOU CAN TELL IT TO THE JUDGE WE HAVE LOTS OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT YOU IT SEEMS YOU AREN'T SUCH A CONSIDERATE NEIGHBOUR".

I am Jack's part of the brain that wonders if FLATTOP thinks he's being taped by the crew of COPS.

So I'm like, yeah? What complaints? Nobody's ever said anything to me. Am I loud? Rude? Violent? What?

And quiet-up-to-now-cop says "we don't have to name names but it seems like you've been a hostile force in this building and if anybody goes Downtown (yes, he actually said "goes Downtown"), it's you".

And I'm like, what? I have been here since December. I'm in bed every night by 10:00. I've had parties and my neighbours (not Neighbour Guy, of course) have come by.

and quiet-up-t-now-cop says "well maybe that's the problem".

And I'm like "what? I'm 37. I don't have keggers! When I say party, it's like a wine and cheese thing..."

and he's like, well that's not our concern, just remember that if we come back, you're going out in cuffs.

whatever... are we done?

And they leave.

WHAT?!

THE?!

FUCK?!

So now I have to live with this fucking asshole across the hall for a LONG TIME, and somehow the whole building apparently hates me, and if Neighbour Guy picks up the phone and says I looke at him cockeyed, I'm "going Downtown".

Oh, and I finally got my divorce decision today, right after the brawl/cops. Not fucking great news.


So.... how was your day?
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:26 PM
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1. Well, if this isn't an April Fools thing
then your best bet is to bake the guy a cake and send it on over. I'm not suggesting you nail the guy in the head with a cake.

Just be all nice. Nah, he doesn't deserve it. But the best revenge in this case is to be nice. He'll hate it. Fuck him.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:28 PM
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2. As I was posting it I thought people are going to think it's "April Fool"!
But it's not.

I want to move away. I want to sell. I don't want to live here anymore; it's tainted.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:28 PM
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3. Sounds perfectly awful. What is a strata, btw?
Is that like a condo? Shared owned building?
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:29 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. Yeah, I forgot... it's a BC thing. "Condo" is the same.
meh.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:32 PM
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10. Get the hell out of there
I know there's pride in staying and standing your ground, but damn.. It sounds like you live in psycho-ville.

LOL at "Ford 5-350 Compensator" :D :D :D
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:32 PM
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11. I really feel for you
We're going through something similar up to and including trumped-up criminal charges from the nazi neighbor and his clique of lying sacks of sh*t toadies...complete with the cops who wouldn't take our statement regarding the alleged incident and who think we're demons from hell or something. It sucketh large.

What can you do to get out of there? Don't let these idiots get the better of you - it'll ruin your health, for starters. Nobody should go through that much stress. :hug:
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:29 PM
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5. Ummm...
Do you have choice at moving? Can you start over at another place? It may be the best thing....
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:31 PM
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9. Why should he move?
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 10:39 PM by libhill
I'd stay there for ever, and be the best citizen in Victoria, just to piss the jackass off.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:36 PM
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16. LOL....
Just me I'd rather not be around neighbors I can't get along with...
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:32 PM
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12. I OWN this place...
But I'm seriously thinking of selling.

But then the part of me I like thinks I should just stay here, because my very presence must just sour this guy's milk every fucking day.

He goes and designs this building, and then has an asshole like me move in, and he can't do squat about it. It's kind of neat... but I wonder what he's been saying to the other neighbours.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:35 PM
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15. LOL...
That's hilarious. You know what's best..... Good Luck.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:30 PM
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6. Sounds to me
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 10:33 PM by libhill
Like Neighbor Guy would make a good goose stepping wing nut Repuke. And I thought Canadians were generally more civil and polite than Americans. Young cop, by the way, is probably fresh out of the acadamy and thinks his shit don't stink. After all, he has his badge of power and gun of authority.
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:30 PM
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7. You have a way with a story, I must say
I don't even know where to begin.

:hug:

I'm sorry your day sucked.
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sparky_in_ma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:31 PM
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8. Shit
I know it sucks, but there is no way you can live there without going to jail. This little bastard now knows he can harass, and assault you, and you'll go to jail. If you can find a way out of there, go for it.

Sorry it happened to you.:grr:
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:45 PM
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19. He can fight it
By not fighting - kill the prick with kindness, "Hey, how ya doing?" "Good to see ya", more of the same. And keep your nose clean, don't so much as even get a parking ticket. He can't touch ya that way, the cops can't touch ya, and you have the secret satisfaction of watching 'em all eat fuckin' shit and die. Heee hee hee - damn, that's rotten.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:52 PM
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24. Bingo
I'm so, so sorry this happened to you. He can do whatever he wants. You can fight it, and maybe win, but I'd walk away if you can possibly swing it.

The better man, my grandpa used to say, is the one that walks away.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:08 PM
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32. But, Robb...did your grandpa walk away from an ocean-view roofdeck...
...and antique tiling in the kitchen?!

I am just Jack.
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jrthin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:33 PM
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13. You really did have
a truly awful day. Hope tomorrow goes much better. :hi:
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:34 PM
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14. Phuck... I hope your tommorrow is better! :-(
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:42 PM
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17. Organize a band of vigilante DUers up there...we'll take care of it.
:evilgrin:
But keep it on the DL, okay?

:hug:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:44 PM
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18. Duuuuuuuuuuuude.
:hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug:
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:45 PM
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20. Have you thought about organizing an open house at your place?
that way you could get to know your neighbors and perhaps share your story a bit?

It would be neighborly and after your altercation it would probably be a good PR move...
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:02 PM
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30. You know, I did that when I moved in...
And that's how I met most of my neighbours. It's actually a nice builing, if a little tight-assed. There are only 8 units, but I've seldom seen most of the neighbours. One is a concert pianist and a PhD in music (teaches at UVic), and the one on the other side s a cellist.

Who knew there'd be strife?
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:48 PM
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21. Wow.
Well, clearly that sucks. He sounds like an asshole of the first class (or with no class, more likely).

I'm sorry this happened. But the way you wrote the story was very amusing. And don't rule out keggers at 37! ;)

Best of luck living with that dickhead. :grr:
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:58 PM
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28. oh, I think there are some keggers in my future...
And I'm right on the border with Esqumalt. There's a clubhouse for a particular club of motorcyclists there, and they love parties with free beer and loud Motorhead.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:59 PM
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29. Now you're talking!
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:06 PM
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31. I'm on my way!
MOTORHEAD! REMEMBER THE NAME NOW! MOTORHEAD!! :headbang:
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:48 PM
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22. Bad boy Bad boy
Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? Sorry you have to live
by a asshole.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:48 PM
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23. Wow, I feel bad for you
Even though I started laughing as I read this. That's just horrible. Personally, I'd move, but you might be braver.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:52 PM
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25. I wish you would have kicked his ass into the next province
If I had been your friend, I would have been punching the motherfucker in the back of the head after he had jumped you.

That was a hell of a read, one of the best I've ever read on DU.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:14 PM
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35. Good point, Raging....If his friend was a REAL friend,
Mister Yuppie Assface would have fround himself with a 3/8" drive torque-wrench handle lodged in a very painful spot.

CanuckAmok, you need better pals. Ones who will take your back.

Redstone
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:19 PM
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36. Nah...
I don't blame him for staying out of it. He's a Navy MP (we don't have SPs here), and he's got a good reason to keep his nose clean. It was kind asurprising, though, because he's huge. H could have picked us both up and slammed us together until we were out, cold.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #36
49. Well did your friend talk to the cops?
I would imagine a Navy MP would have more credibility than that other asshole.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:56 PM
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52. Well, he didn't see how it started...
except for me getting jabbed in the shoulder.

What could he really say? Plus, I wouldn't want to get the poor guy involved... I mean, he was helping me do stuff, and all hell breaks loose.

And, I'm not above saying I didn't stoke the ol' fire a bit... I should have just kept my yap shut. But then I wouldn't be me.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:24 PM
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37. SHut the fuck up
Better stop buggin my friend Canuckamok or I'll cripple ya!
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #37
38. Friends help you move.
Real friends help you move bodies.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:27 PM
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40. Oh shit.. I forgot something I gotta go
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:55 PM
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26. I hope you get some payback
FUck I would get that mother fucker
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:56 PM
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27. Man, I'm sorry you had to go through all that
Well-written story, though. But again, sorry, sorry, sorry...
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:11 PM
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33. He was looking for a fight. All that driving around in his compensator
had him thinking he was a badass. I'd have backed you up 100% btw :D
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:12 PM
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34. Update:
I have no marks on me but a ripped (old) t-shirt, and a cut inside my cheek.

I just saw him in the hallway, and he has a black-eye the size of Montana.

I rule, sorta.

A thought: I think I might send a letter, but instead of apologising, it will be a proposal: We fight again, and the last man standing gets to stay living here; the loser has to sell and move.
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:25 PM
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39. I say revisit that plan in a week
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:27 PM
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41. the first rule of Condo Club is you do not talk about Condo Club.
I'll fight you for your place, too.

How do you think Trump got so much stuff?
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:30 PM
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42. I warn you - I fight like a girl - dirty.
I'd pay money to see Trump in a fight - hair flying all over the place. lol
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:32 PM
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43. is there anything you don't do dirty?
ps i am getting drunk and there is a pizza on the way.

Dear yvr girl

Maybe it's the beer talking, but you have a butt that won't quit. They have these big salted pretzels here which are...vsdfvlvkjfdvhftywefd...FIVE DOLLARS?! GET OUTTA HERE!

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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:48 PM
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47. I'll never tell....
Not in the lounge anyway.

Poor Amok. I'd kiss you all over if I could.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:42 PM
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44. At this point I have to say
that while I'd love to hear about the outcome of this little event of yours, I think for legal reasons you might want to consider stopping talking about any future plans to kick his ass. Who knows, he could be a FReeper, they scan our boards, we scan theirs. If you were to happen to cripple him or something, this thread could get used against you in court as some sort of premeditated violence.

In short, I'd love to hear about subsequent beatdowns, but be careful about what you write.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:47 PM
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45. there won't be any....
...in all seriousness.

I'm totally not a fighter. This was a complte surprise, and I hope it doesn't happen again
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:56 PM
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51. I hear ya
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 11:56 PM by DS1
It's the "totally not the fighter" types that kick the most ass anyway. Well, most of the time, obviously if you were going up agaisnt some mohawked Ultimate Fighting Championship type you'd be fucked, but it's the unassuming, don't want to fight types that do serious damage.

I hope it doesn't happen again, too, but if it does I'd still love to hear about it. I've honestly been having some violent daydreams regarding FReeper types (and they think we're all liberal panty-waists :wtf: ) so I can relate to your euphoria regarding giving this fucker a nice black eye.

Too bad Democratic Underground doesn't sell a pair of sunglasses embossed with the DU logo, I'd chip in to send a pair to him :D
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:24 PM
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91. I know you don't want to hear this...
Edited on Sat Apr-02-05 12:26 PM by mgdecombe
First of all, DS1 has good advice.

Second, I feel for you. People like that are a complete pain in the ass to live with.

Third, and this is the one that you may not like. Try for a second, like in a week or two when you are not so (justifiably) pissed off, to look at it through his good eye for a minute. If he designed the building, he must have a deep emotional investment in the aesthetics and use of the building. You are bringing chaos into his little world, and it has made him nuts. Literally. He seems to think that you are out to destroy everything he has created.

Geez, now that I wrote that, I can see that he's not going to change. This is war for him. I don't think you're going to change, either. If you can't come up with some kind of truce, I hope you can either move or rent your condo out to a fraternity.

On edit: I meant to respond to Canuck...
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 02:05 AM
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72. If you win he'll just call the cops to take you downtown
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:47 PM
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46. You made just one mistake.
You let him live.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:50 PM
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48. This kind of thing will never, EVER happen to me....
Of course, I'm "Tha Man", and I carry a handgun everywhere I go...

It's amazing how polite people are when they know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're packing.... ;)
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:57 PM
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53. How does one pack and show everyone that one packs without
getting unwanted police attention?
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:00 AM
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57. Well, for me....
I wear a hip holster under my suit jacket (which I remove while riding in my car), and if the cops come up, I show them my ID cards and permit which makes them very polite.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:56 PM
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50. hold a wine and cheese shindig every weekend and invite the
local PD (before and after their shifts of course!) and make sure to invite all your neighbors except this guy. The cops will get to know you and like you and then they will take YOUR side everytime.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:58 PM
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54. I'm not sure the local PD are legal drinking age...
...if today was any indicator.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:58 PM
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55. Cops won't show up. The old "blue line" phrase is very true
They will party their brains out and drive home fucked up just like anyone else, but not around you.
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Lisabtrucking Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:59 PM
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56. Save up bail money, and next time kick his ass real good.
I hate people like that. They have nothing better to do then get into other peoples business. I went to jail because of a neighbor one time. She was a drug dealer, child neglector and a hoe.

When her two young twin children,not even two years old, almost got hit by a car, I told her I was tired of having to worry about her babies running into the street while she is no were to be found.

She started screaming and so did I. next thing you know we are all over the yard. when the cops came they said she's bleeding not you thats why your going to jail.

I got out of jail and she was moving.

She knew if she stayed I would be calling the police every-time I saw her children unsupervised.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:02 AM
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58. Joe Pesci's character had it all figured out:
"If you don't have my money for me, I'll crack your fucking head in front of everyone in the bank. And just about the time I get out of jail, hopefully, you'll be coming out of your coma. But guess what? I'll crack your fucking head again! 'Cause I'm fucking stupid! I don't give a fuck about jail! That's my business. That's what I do, you fat fuck."
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:15 AM
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59. Caution
If you plan on staying, do try to mend fences. The bitterness your neighbor feels will have an effect on you. At the least, it will distract you and occupy your attention, thereby forcing you to add a negative drain on your daily life. Be sure, in this type of conflict with one you live with it will drag you down in one way or another.

So much trouble in the world today, don't be an attractor for the negative vibes pulsing through the world in abundance.

Hope things work out for the positive.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:29 AM
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60. Figures the cops would side w/ the neighbor guy
He's the one the built the place, so yeah, the cops would side with him.

Now if only I could blow their heads up (Asshole cop and neighbor guy) with my powers...
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:32 AM
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61. Hey, Canuck...
Edited on Sat Apr-02-05 12:34 AM by autorank
Your neighbor is a total ASSHOLE. He should have never touched you. On top of that, you had some fun court stuff. Be nice to get him in neutral but anyone who starts poking strangers and jumps them is definitely on the 'ignore' list.

Take a look at this test and see if he'll take it. I suspect he'll pass.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x2970192
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:38 AM
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62. sounds like this guy needs a beating
I HATE fucking prick neighbors
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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:56 AM
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63. One Word...Videotape, or better, digital
Little Security cameras are getting smaller and smaller these days. Keep one in your car always facing the garage interior, let your friends who visit know where a video camera is stashed away somewhere.

Cops show up taking his side, "Oh yeah, well I got the whole thing on tape! See here, I was just defending myself."

They "lose" the evidence, no worries, I got lot of copies, I've even sent some to my friends, I even screening one at a party this weekend. Wanna come? There will be punch and pie, no? how about donuts would ya come for donuts?


5-350 Compensator... that's priceless... remember, bannana's in the tailpipe work best, especially when he's running late :P
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 01:32 AM
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66. Gravel in one of his hub caps. It will drive him nuts! He will only hear
Edited on Sat Apr-02-05 01:34 AM by BrklynLiberal
the noise when he is moving, and will never, ever be able to figure out where the hell it is coming from. It is kind of a silent revenge.You will know that whenever he is driving, he is going crazy.
EDIT. Just 3 or 4 pieces of gravel will do the trick...or very small pebbles.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 02:17 AM
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76. He has chrome rims.
Does that surprise you?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 01:05 AM
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64. since you had a witness to being attacked, get a restraining order
served on this dick. it will put him in the place you are right now. Serve him and put him back a step or two.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 01:17 AM
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65. Either ask to meet with this guy to discuss one-on-one
Or ask the Strata president to call a special meeting to discuss your situation. Say, either to him or to all the owners, I'm an owner here with the same rights as everyone. I'm being told there are complaints about me. I want to know what those complaints are. If I'm doing something wrong I want to know, if there's a misunderstanding I have the right to clear my name; let's talk.

Also check your bylaws and see what kind of liability you can threaten the Strata association with if another owner harrasses you.

This guy was the developer? Does that mean most of the current owners purchased their units from him? Do they maybe also have financing arrangements with him? In other words does he have some sway that allows him to bully other owners into going along with him? Odds are good no one has complained about you except him, but if he can intimidate others into backing him up, not good for you.

He's a developer who fixed up a building in a bad part of town. He's got an in with the city and that means cops too. They think he's a good guy. Also not good for you.

I know the let's-talk option will hold no appeal for you tonight, but think about it when you've had a chance to recover from the adrenaline rush. And think about what someone else suggested about cameras. Whether you sell or stay put, you need evidence he's harrassing you.

I hope if it happens again you can catch his initial assault on video and then break his fucking arm.

Oh...and my day wasn't much to write about. :hug:
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 01:52 AM
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69. Talking with this guy won't help.
He is a passive-aggressive asshole who will never agree to talking it out. He has already shown his true colors. I would avoid this guy at all costs.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 02:14 AM
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75. Well-reasoned post
Next time I have a serious problem I'll have to post it here to solicit your advice!:D
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 02:25 AM
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79. You know...
That's a very good response.

But I have a feeling that this is one of those situations where the more rational I try to be, the more nuts I'll look.

Like you know when someone calls a special meeting to announce how sane they are?

Ad far as him being the developer, I don't think he has any special "ins" or anything...AFAIK, everyone bought their units through the usual channels. The only "in " he has is that he lives in two units converted to one, so he has two votes in everything. In a building this size, that's 25%.

I'm just going to let it lay... but it bothers me because I bought this place as a fresh start after my divorce nightmare, and it's tainted by yet another cocksucker.

Pardon my language.

For all I know, the cops gave him the exact same shpiel, word for word...maybe that's their script for something like this. I don't know, because this is the first time I've ever been accused of anything by the police. I certtainly didn't care for their suggestion that I was the cause of this...but whatever.

But just as easily, they may have "my number", justified or not, and I don't think I want to test that theory.

BC cops are known for "handling things" on the way to the lock-up. So I think I'll just let this lay.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:02 AM
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82. One thing you should think about:
If this guy is such an asshole, everyone else in the building KNOWS it!

Odds are, at least 4 of the other 5 owners are resentful of this little Napolean. (only 4, because every Napolean has a Resident Suckup)

You need to get to know your neighbors better, ONE party 4 months ago is not gonna cut it!

If your neighbors are musicians, you have the PERFECT reason!
You need to stop "throwing parties" and START "hosting salons"...

Every Saturday afternoon, you host a 'wine and cheese' affair, with a neighbor invited to perform for a few minutes...

Invite the classiest people you know, and no matter how slowly it starts, KEEP IT UP!

In a month or 3, some of your neighbors will be REGULARS at your low-key events, and you will begin to learn the real DIRT about your little nemesis...
Meanwhile, you build a REP as a classy guy.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:32 AM
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83. Well, I know what you're saying
I have been an officer in my little condo association almost the entire ten years I've lived here. I have scoured the decs many times but found very few ways to deal with owners who just want to be out-and-out assholes. And I have been in business situations where I've been tainted by accusation, and there are not many rational tactics that help. Sigh.

At least he's not likely to lay another finger on you. Good for giving him that shiner!
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 01:40 AM
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67. Putting the Amok in Canuck since 2005
Seriously, I really am sorry you have to live next door to this fuckhead.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 01:47 AM
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68. bummer
And I thought I had a bad day
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 02:02 AM
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70. Though we live a long distance apart,
I've got your back in spirit, man.

The ability of petty losers to inflict their misery on others, often via official channels, will never cease to amaze and anger me.

:hug:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 02:03 AM
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71. I think you should move to another province or the USA
Edited on Sat Apr-02-05 02:03 AM by JVS
Come to Illinois, where nobody bothers you about being a perceived dirtbag
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:00 PM
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89. Hell, we elevate dirtbag to a new level in Illinois!
Oh wait--maybe I don't want to say THAT...

Sorry to hear about your troubles, but damn was it funny to read. I have to tell you that I'd check my condo papers over and see exactly what you can and can't do there. If your ownership allows it, I'd almost consider leasing the flat out to someone and then living someplace else. You could probably get enough in rent to cover your mortgage payments on it...

I will confess, however, that if it was me, I'd probably keep the condo for myself, but put up a "for lease" sign in the window with no phone number on it. Make a point of telling the guy--apologizing to him all the while--that you put an ad out there in a newspaper to let the place out--but the paper put his flat number in the ad by mistake. Make sure and point out that you are only trying to make his life easier by moving away since you are so horrible to live with.

Then I'd have a steady stream of my buddies act like strangers and come over to "view the flat." Have them put on a BIG show of how loud they are.

Get a couple to ride up on big Harley's and park them in the front yard while they are viewing the flat. Get a guy to come over with his hair all done up in blazing colors and a big car stereo playing horrid loud music. Get a couple of teenage girls to come by with personal stereos on that are so loud you can hear them from a distance...

Use your imagination and sense of humor to maybe point out to them that you are not the worst possible neighbor. If you scare them bad enough, maybe they'll realize just how lucky they got when you moved in.

Just my two cents...


Laura
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 02:07 AM
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73. Can you sublet your place?
Sounds like a bad situation waiting to get worse:(
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 02:08 AM
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74. If he ever goes after you again like that,
I say you should unleash all the rage you can muster. I figure if they are going to blame you no matter what, then you oughta at least get to indulge yourself. :evilgrin:
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 02:20 AM
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77. You are much too nice a man...
if somebody jumped me, and I was in a position to take his eye out, he'd be wearing an eye-patch and I'd have a bitchin' new antenna-ball.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 02:29 AM
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80. I would say it the other way around
if somebody jumps me in front of a witness, there is no way I am saying "I do not want to press charges". I probably would have just ignored his confrontational rhetoric to begin with though. Let him mumble to himself and walk away without the need to answer him. If he starts it, then he is the assailant and anything I do is purely self defense, and the best defense is a good offense.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 02:21 AM
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78. Send Lawyers, Guns and Money
hell, that's my answer to all things these days...

dp
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 02:32 AM
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81. If I had any of the three...no problem!
but since I don't, I'll just have to send spleen, vitriol and dirty looks.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 05:59 AM
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84. Jaysus. First the jeep engine, and now the nutcase neighbour...
Not your week! But you do sorta rule. :thumbsup:

I feel your pain, CA, really. It's amazing how these testosterone-fed (his, not yours, not that your lacking), bighorn-sheep antler-locking dustups will burst forth from the simplest, everyday scenarios.

Maybe the best thing to do with the neighbor would be to suck it up and apologize, even though you have nothing to really be sorry for. A case of "being big," and all that. Just so your existence will be less tense around the house. If it doesn't work out, well, at least you made the effort.

As for FLATTOP COP, maybe just chalk that one up to general weirdness. Just be glad you don't have to live his sorry-ass life. Imagine him coming home, popping a cool one, settling down into a stuffing-coming-out-the-arms recliner in front of the tube, resplendent in his hula-girl boxer shorts, and having to just be him for all time? Makes you appreciate the hand you're dealt! :scared:

See ya downtown, dude! :hi: Just kidding. But do take it easy for awhile.

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 06:16 AM
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85. Yikes!
I am sorry to hear about that. I don't know what the Canadian laws are, but if people have lodged complaints against you, you have the right to know what was said. They may not tell you who said it, but you have have a better idea why the "quiet" cop made the comment he did.

I suggest you write it up (the incident) and send it to a friend. Get your witness to do the same. If something else happens (G-d forbid, knock wood, etc.), then you have a written account from YOUR side. It could be a good old case of police harassment.

I hope it doesn't happen again. I am sorry you have to live in a place like that. Keep your chin up and your perspective on paper!
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huellewig Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 06:39 AM
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86. Could $ be motivation for him going after you?
Is the value of the condo greater then what you paid? I don't know how the condo thing works but can he kick you out and repay you what you paid in? Maybe the property is more valuable now. It might be a way for him to make some cash. Or maybe he discovered a major flaw in the design of the building and wants to slowly get rid of everyone before the place collapses and the tenants sue him.

Are you sleeping with his wife? :evilgrin:
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:25 AM
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87. Wow. I know you're disappointed to find your nice digs also harbor
Edited on Sat Apr-02-05 11:30 AM by Nay
a TOTAL ASSHOLE. That is just so awful. I only have a few words of advice:

I agree with the folks who say to buy a few video cameras and keep them in places where you may be confronted by this jerk.

I disagree with the people who say to apologize to him or be nice to him. This will only encourage these types of bastards. From now on, your whole demeanor toward him should be one of total coldness -- no snarling or dirty looks or aggression, but a face and attitude totally devoid of any emotion at all. Freeze him out. Shun him with your face. If he is with someone else, treat that person normally, and shun the asshole with your face. That way he gets the message that he went WAY over the line when he attacked you in the garage, and, maybe, next time he DOES lose his fucking eye.

I agree with the idea that hosting wine and cheese parties (put out REALLY GOOD FOOD and everyone will come) with the musicians, etc., regularly will allow other people to see that you are not the asshole here. And after they get to know that you are OK, they may let you know that the jerk has tried stuff with them, too. I would bet, though, that you may be the first one he has tried this with in the building. Certain types of people get assholes like this riled up really easily, and you may be that type. It seems like some kind of a macho guy thing -- and the other people in the building may not bring that out in him. This is not to say it is your fault or anything, but something in you (your voice, size, demeanor, etc.) may remind him of someone or something he does not like. It doesn't have to be rational or even conscious on his part.

Oh, and I would never go off with him in private like you did -- you need to always have witnesses when people start acting like he did in the garage. Always go toward other people when you are accosted like that. The stories that these guys can fabricate and tell to the cops is little short of amazing.
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HamstersFromHell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:48 AM
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88. You're rebuilding an engine, right?
Red Lok-Tite...it is your friend. Takes a friggin torch to soften it so you can loosen a fastener it's applied to.

If you don't have some, buy some. Apply liberally to the inside of said asshole's locks...on his penis extension vehicle's door locks, and to the locks on his domicile. Just don't get caught with any. Sit back, have a cool one, make popcorn and enjoy the show when his head explodes at being locked out of everything he loves.

Trust me, this works. We once took a trip up to Sturgis for the Black Hills Classic and we got tired of the pools being closed at 10pm. Application of Red Lok-Tite to the padlocks used to lock the pool gate (usually locked on the fence adjacent to the gate for "safekeeping") kept them open till at least midnight every night of our trip up and back.

Sometimes the subtle things you can do to drive someone nuts are far more effective. :)

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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:10 PM
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90. Oh, and he was a freeper, too, right?
Whatever, CanuckAmok. I NEVER believe these stories. :eyes:


Actually, I'm glad yr okay. Canadians are a stange breed of cat....
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