You have to see this Freerepublic poster!!!

You should post a warning in your subject line. That is one very offfensive poster.

Just sayin' is all...

Hitler used "god" to justify his actions (ever look at the belt buckle that says "God is with us"?

Hitler depended on capitalism via enterprise like I G Fairben, etc. to finance the military machine.

Hitler was not in favor of gun control, in fact, the only gun law passed while Hitler had any power made it EASIER to obtain firearms.

Hitler was opposed to abortion as he wanted lots of aryan babies born to populate the "living space" he was waging war to acquire.

The lack of education among these idiots is so severe it's surprising they can spell their own names.

What do you expect from freeps.

he considered them all inventions of the Jews to undermine the power of Germany.

1. The 'Gott mit uns' belt buckle was on German soldiers long before 1933. Hitler had one when he was a Corporal in the 16th Bavarian Reserve Regt. in WWI.
Hitler was anti-Christian, which he considered 'Jewish' (?)and 'pacifist'. He encouraged Pagan/Germanic beliefs.

Hitler used industrialists in the same way he used every other group or agency---he got what he wanted and put it under his own control. In Nazi germany, Business was only allowed to profit if they did not get in the way of Hitler's primary objective. If they did get in the way, they were quickly nationalized. Hitler's economy was NOT laissez-faire capitalism, nor was it Soviet style Communism. Fascism in the economic sense was one type of a 'third way' philosophy.

Hitler most certainly ordered abortions, forced sterilizations and euthanasia of cripples, invalids, the retarded, and genocide of people of an 'inferior' race

as justification.

He was not anti-christian.

Hitler quotes:

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." -Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922

In a speech at Koblenz, August 26, 1934, Hitler said: "National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary it stands on the ground of a real Christianity . . . For their interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of today, in our fight against a Bolshevist culture, against atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for a consciousness of a community in our national life . . . These are not anti-Christian, these are Christian principles!"



You should do a little more research.

Hitler did not order abortions for "aryans", nor did he order forced sterilization for "aryans." He wanted as many "aryan" babies as possible to populate his "reich." His treatment of Jews, the mentally handicapped, etc. did not fall under the same category. Besides, the Freeper thought process is trying to state that Democrats being pro-choice is the same thing, which it most definitely is not.

but in person he detested Christianity. Members of the SS were often encouraged to renounce Christianity. Hitler also said, in a speech, that nazism and Christianity could not be recounciled. He said you could not be a nazi and a christian, period.

From The Rise and fall of the Third Reich--

"And even fewer paused to reflect that under the leadership of Rosenberg, Bormann, and Himmler, who were backed by Hitler, the Nazi regime intended eventually to destroy Christianity in Germany, if it could, and substitute the old paganism of the early tribal Germanic gods and the new paganism of the Nazi extremists. As Bormann, one of the men closest to Hitler, said publically in 1941, 'National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable'.
"What the Hitler government envisioned for Germany was clearly set out in a thirty-point program for the 'National Reich Church' drawn up during the war by Rosenberg, an outspoken pagan, who among his other offices, held that of 'the Fuehrer's Delegate for the Entire Intellectual and Philosophical Education and Instruction for the National Socialist Party.' A few of the thirty articles convey the essentials:

"1. The National Reich Church of Germany categorically claims the exclusive right and the exclusive power to control all churches within the borders of the Reich: it declares these to be the national churches of the German Reich.

"5. The National Church is determined to exterminate irrevocably....the strange and foreign Christian faiths imported into Germany in the ill-omened year 800.

"7. The National Church has no scribes, pastors, chaplains, or priests, but National Reich orators are to speak in them.

"13. The National Church demands immediate cessation of the publishing and dissemination of the Bible in Germany...

"14. The National Church declares that to it, and therefore to the German nation, it has been decided that the Fuehrer's Mein Kampf is the greatest of all documents. It....not only contains the greatest but it embodies the purest and truest ethics for the present and future life of our nation.

"18. The National Church will clear away from its altars all crucifixes, Bibles, and pictures of saints.

"19. On the altars there must be nothing but Mein Kampf (to the German nation and therefore to God the most sacred book) and to the left of the altar a sword.

"30. On the day of its foundation, the Christian Cross must be removed from all churches, cathedrals, and chapels...and it must be superseded by the only unconquerable symbol, the swastika."1

He cites christianity throughout the book. He credits his catholic upbringing with helping him form his anti-semitic beliefs. In fact, the monestary school he attended daily as a youth HAD A SWASTIKA ON IT'S GATES.

A good start can be found here http://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler.htm

in ancient synagogues in the Middle east. Seriously. I have seen pictures of swastikas or sun wheels in ancient synagogues

talking about the catholic monestary school where Hitler was educated.

You can also find more here: http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mhitlerchristian.html

"in 1941, Hitler told General Gerhart Engel: "I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so." He never left the church. He was baptized a Roman Catholic as an infant and was a communicant and altar boy in his youth."

conservative crowds to hide his more radical agenda. Hitler, early on, had to win over the Conservatives in power to become Chancellor, and later had to win over the German General Staff, which politically, was predominantly monarchist in preference (even though certain Nazi generals like Model and Reichenau were given prefferable treatment), even during WWII.

Hitler's core group early on in the 1920s and early 30s, the SA (brownshirts), were often extreme nationalists AND socialists, like the SA, Roehm, Goebbels, Strasser bros.
Hitler often made speeches, where if you replace Jew with capitalist or landowner could easily be one of Mao's or castros

on his Catholic upbringing and what he was taught in a monastery school. The only time he disapproved of anything remotely Christian was when certain pastors opposed him politically.

He didn't just invoke Christianity to certain groups, he invoked it from his youth onwards, even writing of it in Mein Kampf which was written long before he ever came to any prominence.

And Hitler's core group was never comprised of socialists in any way. The name National Socialist was a complete misnomer (as any honest historian can tell you). Hitler was radically and diabolically opposed to all things arising from the philosophy of Marx and Engels, whether it was socialism, communism or Marxism.

Hitler often made speeches where you didn't need to replace the words "communist" "leftist" "socialist" with anything because he stated flat out what he felt about them.

...socialist elements of of the party, specifically during and after the Night of the Long Knives. Thats why he had Gregor Strasser killed, and Otto Strasser fled. They were arch socialist, who did not jive with Hitler's brand of Conservative Nationalism.

they were threats to Hitler's leadership. Roehm wanted to replace the Army with the SA, but Hitler knew he needed to trained Army leadership for his eventual conquests. In a faustian pact, the Army agreed to support Hitler if Roehm and the SA were purged.


Roehm and the Strassers were serious rivals to Hitler for inner party support during the late 1920s, early 1930s. The Strassers were socialists, but Hitler needed financial backing. But the real reason he purged them is that Gregor could rival Hitler's popularity. And if Gregor found out Hitler was hobnobbing with wealthy capitalists, he would easily become the favorite within the party, particularly among the masses.

...have overtaken Hitler. Roehm, yes, perhaps, but history has shown his ambitions were far less energetic than Hitlers. But Hitler was well in control of the party apparatus by 1934. The Strassers had been marginalized to the socialist elements of the party by that point - an element that Hitler had no admiration for. As for Hitler courting the industrial/corporatist elements, of course he did that, we have no disagreement there. Thats a hallmark of fascism.

"Ancient History," published 1926. What's on the spine, at the top? A swastika.

his inspiration to use the swastika came primarilly from the gate at his school. While it may have had a part, the swastika is an ancient symbol used by Aryans, a group of Indo Europeans that consuered Persia and N. India (and other places, not too familar).

Also, from most accounts, Hitler really wasn't Christian in any way. He didn't openly go after the Christians at first because he wanted their support in climbing to power, but he had no liking of Christianity itself. Also, it seems the conflicting reports of his statements on Christianity seem more indicative of him changing his rhetoric, depending on the crowds he was in front of. Though, I'm sure, as you noted, that the anti semitism fostered over centuries in Christianity did have an influence on his thoughts.

Hitler obviously didn't have any interest in those parts of Christianity that called for forgiveness or compassion.

it was not legal in much of the world in the 1930s. But many people had forced abortions and sterilizations in Nazi germany.

I don't know what German policy was on abortions, period...but it was certainly not like the fundy American right

imply an abortion fanatic.

Hitler was a fascist, not a socialist. German industrialists loved Hitler.

Man, these people are idiots.

Theocracy, Plutocracy and Fasicism = Republican Platform

GOP:

Hatred of non-Christians
Hatred of homosexuals
Concentration of wealth into the hands of 1% of the people
Sky-rocketing health care costs, with 45 million people uninsured
Sky-rocketing education costs, so more people live in poverty
Sky-rocketing gas prices, so we line the pockets of the oil companies
Pathetically low minimum wage; one cannot support oneself or a family
Destruction of the bill of rights
War on civil liberties


Add some...

thing I think he should change is where it says, "believes there is only one TRUE God." Plenty of liberals (myself included) believe there is only one true God. The difference lies in the fact that liberals who believe in one God don't think they're automatically better people than those who have different beliefs; conservatives do.

The rest was awesome though. I especially love where he says, "invasion of Iraq," and stated that Osama supported it.

I guess the Democratic Party really is a "Big Tent"

They'd probably accuse you of being against peas, or something.

:banghead:

I thought was hatred of walking? :silly:

If not it is an utterly stupid, yet offensive thing - it totally fails to make a point despite being offensive.

when moveon.org published a contest entry comparing Thugs with NAZIs?



Class Warfare!:rofl:

Doesn't that just say it all?

name of the party, doesn't equate to socialism.

That doesn't make me anti-christian or anti-semite.

Why is national health care a bad thing?

Why is putting the $$ of the federal government behind education a bad thing?

A woman's right to choose must never be compromised.

Hatred of capitalism? Yep. Work to change it? Why not?

Gun control? Nope. Let's remove all gun laws. Let's see what happens. :eyes:

Class warfare? Nope, that's you guys.

:eyes:

and disturbing at the same time.

Hate of capitalism
No, we hate big corporations gouging the hard-working workers and big corporations avoiding taxes while getting tax breaks while more of the tax burden falls on the working class.

Anti-Christian/Semite
No, we simply don't want our government to endorse any religion. Freepers seem to love to use Jesus to a wage culture wars so perhaps when we say we want no religion in our government they mistakenly see it as anti-Christian. They are feeble-minded so it is easy to see why this happens.

Class Warfare
Wait, are they freepers the ones for the rich and corporations getting all the tax breaks and the tax burden being thrown on shoulders of the working class? How do we support class warfare? By making all people pay their fair share? Sure.

Nationalized Health Care
My question is, do freepers have a better idea? The current system is broken. What's wrong with a more nationalized health care plan? Oh wait, the massive pharmaco industry would lose tons of money. It's all about the mighty greenback with those freepers.

Nationalized Education
Ironically, they say they are against this but NCLB is imposing more and more federal regulation on states and their school districts. Idiots, if they followed Shrub, they should be for this.

Gun Control
Gun control does not mean gun banning. What is wrong with that?

Abortion
Yes, we support what is legal.

I agree with every point

Man, if I knew I would so much ignorance today, I would have just stayed in bed. :lol:

if you've not read it enough already - most often when you open your mouths, you insert your feet and prove your pathetically laughable ignorance!

HITLER WAS NOT A SOCIALIST !!!!!!!!

god you people are just plain idiots!

:grr: :argh:

What did you do to the poster?

Ignore them like they don`t exist.

that they have of socialized medicine and public education. They system that you have now of HMO's and going bankrupt to pay for surgery is truly bizarre. And a little education wouldn't hurt them in the least.

They speaketh of themselves. Not us.

...National Socialism. But I can't really fault them. When was the last time you think they ever touched a book, let alone a political science book.

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

THIS is the reason why there should be vastly increased Federal spending on education if idiots like these are walking about.

The Nazis were national capitalists and didn't have labor laws. This was to maximise profit. (Jews, slavs and Russian POWs "benefited" from these 'right to work' regulations - most died)

The Nazis weren't anti-Christian per se, but disliked the established churches as a source of outside influence on people that possibly could compete with the authority of the Nazi leadership. Hitler did certainly believe that he was carrying out God's will.

The Nazis were thoroughly anti-socialist and anti-Marxist. Active socialists were either sent to the concentration camps or were executed. The pre-1933 Social Democratic Party were decimated by the Nazis.

The Nazis were anti-women rights. Aryan women were simply reduced to be 'breeding machines' to further the white race. Other women were even unluckier than this.

The Nazis supported "pre-emptive war". The Nazis called the attack on Poland as an "act of self-defence".

He was certain that Hitler was a socialist because of the "socialism" part of "National Socialism". I finally got him to at least abandon his argument when I innundated him with quotes by Hitler about Marxism and the Bolsheviks, told him how real socialists were rounded up by the Nazis and sent to concentration camps, and defined what fascism really is (merger of corporate and state power).

Not surprisingly, I think he got his false impression about National Socialism from Limbaugh or one of those fascist propagandists.