do you think Castro will meet the President in Rome?

pres2032

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Thu Apr-07-05 01:47 AM
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do you think Castro will meet the President in Rome?

considering both will be there for the Pope's Funeral. Or do you think he'll "accidently" run into any of the US delegation?

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punpirate

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Thu Apr-07-05 01:52 AM
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1. Oh, I hope so...

... and that there are plenty of paparazzi around.... :P

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pres2032

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Thu Apr-07-05 01:54 AM
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3. i think that is guaranteed

it's just getting the two to meet that is important.

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MrScorpio

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Thu Apr-07-05 01:53 AM
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2. I'd love to see that

Too bad Jimmy wasn't invited... He could introduce them

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pres2032

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Thu Apr-07-05 01:55 AM
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4. yeah

I think our hopes have to rest with Clinton. I think he'd be the only one with the balls to meet Castro.

another question, do you think the Tawainese and Chinese delegations will meet?

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MrScorpio

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Thu Apr-07-05 01:57 AM
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5. I bet they're more sociable towards each other than the Repugs

Towards Castro

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pres2032

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Thu Apr-07-05 01:59 AM
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6. true

wouldn't that be something, that the Chinese and Tawaines meet, but the US can't meet with the Cubans.

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candle_bright

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Thu Apr-07-05 02:00 AM
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7. Castro might show up

but he is no hero. I really don't care what happens to Castro. I hope President Clinton does not grace him with any special favors either.

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pres2032

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Thu Apr-07-05 02:02 AM
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8. i never said he was a hero

Edited on Thu Apr-07-05 02:02 AM by pres2032

but i think it would be a wonderful act of diplomacy for the two delegations to meet, and Castro is coming, at least according to Cnn.com

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candle_bright

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Thu Apr-07-05 02:04 AM
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9. It would be great

but what would it fix?

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pres2032

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Thu Apr-07-05 02:07 AM
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11. maybe nothing right away

but i feel a large problem is the bush administrations outright refusal to meet with world leaders they don't like. If they were to meet, they'd obviously talk and that might start an official dialogue between the two countries. Ya never know, it may even lead, a few years down the road, to the lifting of the embargo. I just think we're presented with an incredible opportunity with all the world's leaders meeting in such a spiritual place, good things may happen.

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candle_bright

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Thu Apr-07-05 02:10 AM
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13. Good point

Maybe Fidel will change his ways, give up his power, and dictatorship because the Holy Father died.

Sorry, but I don't share your optimism. I wish I could.

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pres2032

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Thu Apr-07-05 02:11 AM
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14. i'm not looking for him to abdicate

just looking for a dialogue

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candle_bright

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Thu Apr-07-05 02:15 AM
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16. Dialogue?

And what would you ask for Castro to give up on?

Human rights issues, perhaps?

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pres2032

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Thu Apr-07-05 02:20 AM
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17. that'd be nice

but hell, if all it was said, was

"how are the kids/grandkids?"
"great, love 'em to death. How are yours?"
"Great."
etc....

I just want something. I just want them in a room, or in the church, talking, talking about whatever pops into their heads, comments about the funeral, anything. We can't get anything accomplished until the two sides actually start talking to each other.

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candle_bright

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Thu Apr-07-05 02:24 AM
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18. Based on your answer, I think we are on the same page

Castro is NOT on our page though. Think about the fact that we can leave anytime we like, and Cubans cannot. Apples and oranges.

Dialogue is good, but with Castro you'll be holding your breath. He is a dictator in the true sense of the word.

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pres2032

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Thu Apr-07-05 02:30 AM
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19. right

i definitely understand who Castro is and how he is running his country. But also too, Castro is very old and won't be around for much longer, so this may be our best chance at getting in there and perhaps setting up the foundation for a post-Castro Cuba and ending Communism there. but like i said before, none of that is possible if we don't first get in a room with them.

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tammywammy

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Thu Apr-07-05 02:05 AM
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10. I'm just glad I don't have to do the seating arrangement

"We can put France here next to the US." "No they don't get along." "Well how about the US next to Cuba?" "No." "Well how about the US next to Germany"....it would be a nightmare.

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pres2032

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Thu Apr-07-05 02:09 AM
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12. heh

i don't think they'd have to worry about fist fights breaking out in the middle of the funeral. it may even have profound (good) consequences to have rivals sitting next to eachother for such a spiritual and solemn occastion.

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fujiyama

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Thu Apr-07-05 02:13 AM
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15. I would purposely fuck it all up

and put nations that hate each other next to each other.

It's a learning exercise. Learn to live together!

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whirlygigspin

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Thu Apr-07-05 02:47 AM
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20. I like your thinking

Is there some sort of reception afterwards?

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ISUGRADIA

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Thu Apr-07-05 04:20 AM
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21. Castro should watch out for Bush Sr.

Bush (ex CIA chief) might bump into him and next thing you know Castro has a heart attack in a few days.

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pres2032

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Thu Apr-07-05 12:41 PM
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22. UPDATE: Castro is not going to Rome

he is sending an official delegation though

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag

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Thu Apr-07-05 12:44 PM
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23. Wow, maybe Castro trolls DU and read post #21.

:silly:

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pres2032

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Thu Apr-07-05 12:46 PM
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24. lol, maybe

Edited on Thu Apr-07-05 12:47 PM by pres2032

how do we know YOUR'RE not Castro! you 're just saying you're from Brazil instead of Cuba. :silly:

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag

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Thu Apr-07-05 01:02 PM
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25. I'm alerting on you. No calling out. (nt)

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pres2032

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Thu Apr-07-05 01:14 PM
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26. aw, damn ,i'm sorry

I guess your identity is supposed to be a secret, comrade. ;-)

sorry, it won't happen again, just please, oh please, sir, don't send me to the gulag.

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag

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Thu Apr-07-05 01:50 PM
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27. Nah, don't worry, we only have regular jails here.

Not cold enough, you know. Kruschev tried to export us some snow but for some reason it didn't work out.

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