If Jesus Died For Our Sins... - Democratic Underground

vogonjiltz

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Sun Apr-10-05 12:51 AM
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If Jesus Died For Our Sins...

...Shouldn't we sin so that the effort wasn't wasted?

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WindRavenX

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Sun Apr-10-05 12:51 AM
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1. I've always wanted to ask that question

But I'm afraid I'll be chased out of town...:o

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vogonjiltz

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Sun Apr-10-05 12:52 AM
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2. I don't know any better yet

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mark414

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Sun Apr-10-05 12:54 AM
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3. i find it best to just ignore the question altogether

thinking about it leaves less time for sinning

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WindRavenX

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Sun Apr-10-05 01:00 AM
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4. hahahahah good answer

:thumbsup:

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MADem

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Sun Apr-10-05 01:06 AM
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5. I did ask that question, in all seriousness, as a child

I was told to stop being a smarty pants. Never got an answer.

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vogonjiltz

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Sun Apr-10-05 01:08 AM
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6. That figures.

Of course, I am more of a wisacre.

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KitchenWitch

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Sun Apr-10-05 02:53 AM
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13. I also asked that one

I also made the assertion in a college religion class back in the late 1980s (went to a Lutheran college) that lesbians were God's chosen people since AIDS was spreading like wildfire among gay men and heterosexual couples, after he stated that AIDS was God's retribution for sin.

I am a troublemaker!

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imenja

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Sun Apr-10-05 01:13 AM
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7. you do

Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 01:14 AM by imenja

we all do

That's a given. Jesus didn't expect anyone to live an exemplary life. That's why he choose Mary Magdalene as one his favored disciples.

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Abelman

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Sun Apr-10-05 02:59 AM
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14. Why, pray tell?

Why choose her?

I comment only because I dislike the general consensus she was a prostitute, because I don't believe she was.

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imenja

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Sun Apr-10-05 03:32 AM
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18. he evidently cared for her

and appreciated her companionship. Why shouldn't he have chosen her?

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Abelman

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Sun Apr-10-05 03:37 AM
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20. There is no reason he shouldn't of

I just dislike the concept of Mary as Prostitute

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imenja

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Sun Apr-10-05 03:41 AM
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21. okay, but my point was simply this

Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 03:42 AM by imenja

None of us are expected to live lives without sin. It simply is not possible. Christ's message was one of forgiveness. Not, as the OP seems to think, some sort of judgment on the sins of human kind.

What would be wrong if Mary Magdalene had been a prostitute? Why does that bother you?

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Abelman

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Sun Apr-10-05 03:43 AM
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22. We are in agreement

It is something I was trying to say myself but got all muddled. I hope I did not offend, it is simply one of my buttons.

Anyway, we do agree. The message was forgiveness. That we should be forgiven but also forgive others, which is what so many people forget.

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imenja

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Sun Apr-10-05 03:46 AM
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23. no offense at all

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MADem

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Sun Apr-10-05 12:37 PM
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27. I think she was married to him, myself! n/t

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ashmanonar

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Sun Apr-10-05 06:46 PM
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28. i believe that either consciously

or subconsciously, the writers of the bible changed mary magdalene's back story so she was a prostitute. it makes sense, and it distances the "true" jesus from this horrible sinner. i do believe that there was some changing of jesus, while they were at it.

now don't jump on me for this claim, i did read the davinci code, and i thought it was interesting if not exactly nonfiction.

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Melynn

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Sun Apr-10-05 02:38 AM
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8. That's a good question. I never thought of that

I guess a fundie would say that you are born with original sin, so you are automatically guilty no matter what you do.

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Robeson

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Sun Apr-10-05 02:42 AM
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9. Gosh, what a loving God to follow......

...one who condemns his followers to sin, before they're ever born...makes sense to me...:crazy:

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Melynn

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Sun Apr-10-05 02:50 AM
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11. Yeah, I know

Doesn't make too much sense to me, either. Guess that's why I'm not into religion.

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jdj

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Sun Apr-10-05 02:45 AM
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10. LOL.

I love these irreverent philosophy questions.

the whole scam is so sickening and negative.

"sins". Christ. (oops)

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LisaL

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Sun Apr-10-05 02:52 AM
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12. What's that going to do, since Jesus is already dead?

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Abelman

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Sun Apr-10-05 03:04 AM
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15. I don't know why I'm answering

But I will.

Jesus as a sacrifice was God's way of stopping people from making animal sacrifice's to atone for sinning, because many people's hearts weren't really into the forgiveness. They were just going through the motions.

Those who sin and say it's okay because God will forgive them are guilty of the same thing. It's got lots of percieved loopholes. And I've just confused myself.

I don't remember what I was getting at, but the point is it's not okay to go around sinning.

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Borgnine

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Sun Apr-10-05 03:06 AM
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16. Yes, and another question...

...If God didn't want his apples eaten, why'd he put the tree there in the first place? Why did he make them apples and not some holy diarrhea fountain? And really, all of this over an apple? Maybe if it was in the citrus family I could understand...

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Abelman

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Sun Apr-10-05 03:34 AM
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19. Man, it wasn't an apple!

If was an apple, everyone who ate apples would get amazingly smarter!

It was forbidden fruit, and we'll never see the likes of it again, I tells ya!

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DoNotRefill

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Sun Apr-10-05 03:10 AM
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17. I've used a substansively similar line....

on a Catholic woman on the night before Easter....worked like a charm!!! ZZZZZIIIIIPPPP!!!!! :evilgrin:

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Nikia

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Sun Apr-10-05 10:16 AM
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24. I think that sin in inevitable

But we need to be forgiven and forgive others. It isn't good to purposely sin, but it isn't good to dwell on particuliar sins for long periods of time. That separates from God, just as you might avoid a person who you wronged. Knowing that we are forgiven allows us to not avoid God when we have sinned.

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Deja Q

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Sun Apr-10-05 10:17 AM
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25. After 2000 years, humans are sinning more than ever.

In other words, Jesus died in vain.

Bit of a pity, that...

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gmoney

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Sun Apr-10-05 10:58 AM
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26. "Jesus Died for Somebody's Sins But Not Mine..."

http://www.alwaysontherun.net/patti.htm#a

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imenja

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Sun Apr-10-05 06:47 PM
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29. Patti Smith is the best

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