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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:04 PM
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A general rule? Canadians: Comedians, good. Music, bad. Discuss.
It is a general rule that my SO swears by.


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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:08 PM
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1. I dunno
I don't know a lot of Canadian music, but most of what I've heard I like, and there's some really awesome stuff (IMHO, anyway) like Neil Young and the Guess Who. The only mostly bad Canadian artist I know of is Celine Dion.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:14 PM
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2. Gordon Lightfoot
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:17 PM
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3. Neil Young is Canadian! Robbie Robertson, Joni Mitchell,
Paul Schaeffer...
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:21 PM
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6. You had me

then you lost me with the last one
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:22 PM
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9. He may not be hip but Paul Schaeffer is a talented musician.
He played studio stuff with some of the greats back in the 60-70's.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:25 PM
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14. Is he "Tragically Hip?"
I'll shut up now
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:27 PM
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16. I like Paul. He's a great compliment to Letterman.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:28 PM
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17. I don't care about his music

I assume he's talented. I just wish he would shut his mouth and save us from his so-called humor. He hasn't been funn7y since SNL and his Don Kirschner days.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:20 PM
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4. Well, it depends
I think most of the comedy industry in the US is Canadians. Music, well Gordon Lightfoot is awesome, Neil Young is one of us, so was the band and a host of other music you probably haven't heard of that is awesome

Arcade Fire
Tricky Woo
54-40
Pure
Celtic Music from Canada is awesome
Hot hot heat

and more


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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:20 PM
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5. Joni Mitchell, k.d. lang, Robbie Robertson, Daniel Lanois
Or of you want to go back a ways, Ian and Sylvia.

I'll grant that there are a few too many light-weight Canadian pop singers at the moment, but that's not a permanent condition.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:22 PM
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7. I love Rush.
Neil Young rocks. Yes Celine Dion sucks but that is the only truly bad Canadian artist I know.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:22 PM
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8. It's really hard to think of any bad American music.
Or good American comedians.

:evilgrin:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:24 PM
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12. Well the topic was Canada.
And I love Canada and Canadians.

It wasn't meant to be diss of Canadian, just a discussion of silly rule that my SO has.

A general rule, mind you. There are obviously exceptions.

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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:29 PM
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19. Sorry, I didn't take it that way.
And you know, there are a LOT of Canadian comedians I don't mind you dissing.

Dan Aykroyd, Howie Mandel, Jim Carrey, Wayne and Schuster, and most of the ones who still live in Canada, for example.
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:23 PM
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10. What about D.O.A. and Voivod?
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:23 PM
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11. And wat tyler's favourite "Chixdiggit"
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:25 PM
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13. Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Cowboy Junkies, Rufus Wainwright, Stan Rogers..
Of course they also gave us Celine Dion and Avril Lavigne, but we'll forgive that.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:26 PM
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15. Avril Lavingne?
I did not know that.

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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:28 PM
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18. And Bryan Adams!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:29 PM
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20. SHHHHHHHH
We don't like to brag about that
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:36 PM
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22. Ahh, you Vancouverites love him! C'mon, admit it!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:38 PM
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He's been escorted to city limits and dumped numerous times!
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:51 PM
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28. Don't feel bad, my state is responsible for "Ryan Adams"
and he's known around these parts to be a total asshole.

He apparently had a hit record or two recently.

Once, someone snarkily yelled out a request for "Summer of 65" and Adams got so mad, he leapt into the crowd to find out who said it.

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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:35 PM
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21. I disagree.
Let's make the imperial assumption, that Canada is really just an unannexed colony of the United States. You'd expect Canada to produce 1/10 the talent and 1/10 the crap of the North American musical scene.

Certainly, for folk and rock, they've probably exceeded their allotment, if you give them a ten-year pass on rock due to cultural diffusion (i.e., due to the lack of large numbers of poor black people, you wouldn't expect Elvis to come from Canada).

In classical music, they've put out enough to keep up on the performance end. They didn't match the prolific output of the Americans during the last century, but the American neo-classicalesque guys faded a long time ago.

As to bad music, they haven't met their quota of boy-bands, and Celine Dion is no Britney Spears. They have no real pop Nashville contributions. While on the one hand, they've not contributed to rap (it's hard to make rap without society crapping on its citizens), they also hold little blame for talentless, mainstreamed "rap".

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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:36 PM
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23. How about Nelly Furtado....Sarah McLachlan ...Alanis Morissette
Shania Twain ....Holly Cole?
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:37 PM
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25. I forgot about them
Canada has the best female artists... ALanis and Shania excluded Ugh earworms!
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:37 PM
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24. The Pursuit of Happiness...
SNFU
Delerium
Skinny Puppy
Big Rude Jake
Jane Siberry
Sarah McLachlan

...and MITSOU!

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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:38 PM
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26. What about Belvedere, Three Dead Trolls In A Baggie, etc.??
I do agree that Anne Murray, Loverboy and Celine Dion have created a kind of stigma...
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:45 PM
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27. These bands/musicians beg to differ...
Edited on Sun Apr-10-05 06:09 PM by primate1
Alexisonfire, Billy Talent, Protest The Hero, The Stills, The Weakerthans, Wintersleep, Closet Monster, Belvedere, Sweatshop Union, Choke, Death From Above 1979, Hot Hot Heat, Sam Roberts, Holly McNarland, Tegan and Sara, The Tea Party, Matthew Good Band/Matthew Good (solo), Moneen, K-os, etc.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:55 PM
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31. I LOVE Billy Talent!!!
My brother has one of their albums.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:56 PM
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32. As far as I know they only have one album
It's really good though.
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Sufi Marmot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:51 PM
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29. Chilliwack, Trooper, The Spoons!!!
Gawd I'm going to miss Can Con when I leave Vancouver... :cry:

-SM
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 05:54 PM
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30. Tragically Hip anyone?
Bad music? Them's fighting words!
I grew up listening to Chom FM. Went right from nursery rhymes to Triumph, Rush and April Wine.
Thanks to the internet, I no longer need to travel to Montreal to get my fix of Canadian tunes.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 07:29 PM
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33. Glenn Gould? Oscar Peterson?
Anybody who thinks their music is bad is so lacking in taste that they should have their tubes tied.
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Feathered Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 07:39 PM
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34. Once upon a time
Canada had some great artists. The 60's and early 70's were great. The garage psych in this country during that era rivals the biggest and best bands of the time (not that anyone would know because most of those recordings are long gone or only available on hard to find LP's).
Then Celine Dion was born and it all went to hell.
Canada has some of the worst stuff going right now - Avril, Shania, Celine... not to mention the we-should-pack-it-up crew of Rush and The Guess Who. Neil is still great.
As for Joni Mitchell - small doses, my friends. And as for Sarah McLaughlin - :boring:

The good music in this country (and indeed in most) is underground and local, definitely not what's on MushMusic (that's not a typo).
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Emops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 07:41 PM
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35. Anyone who badmouths Rush is looking for a fight.
Neil Peart should be the next pope.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 07:55 PM
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36. two words: Dave Coulier
he is not funny. Rule is now disproved.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 07:57 PM
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37. My former roomie & best friend Jessica Porter who wrote
Hip Chicks Guide to Macrobiotics. Crazy Canadian, fersure.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 08:25 PM
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38. I'd bet that lb for lb there's more musical culture in Canada than the US
When you consider the population difference, Canada has done very well. They love their music up there. Anytime I've gone to a major concert in Ottawa or Montreal, the houses have been packed.

Here's a website that lists many of their bands and entertainers
http://www.haltoncrimestoppers.com/ip_canv6.html

The Guess Who and Neil Young are two of my faves.

Even when you get away from the mega performers there's a huge interest in the music scene, especially in the larger cities. You can always find some of the bigger reggae scenes in cities like Montreal and Toronto. In the summer my kids have gone several times to punk rock festivals in Montreal like the Warped Tour and others.

Music is HUGE in Canada.
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