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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:57 AM
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If you use a glue trap for mice, you're sick and I hate you.
No offense. :sarcasm:

I just saw two little meeces struggling on a glue trap on my way into work this morning, and I'm conscience stricken that I didn't stop to rescue them.

If you have a mouse problem, get a cat (one you keep indoors of course), or just fast-acting poison, if you must. But why torture the little critters just because you're too chicken shit to care what happens to them and too monstrous to do the right thing?

No offense. :sarcasm:
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:00 AM
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1. ugh!
they use these at my job. a couple of weeks ago i found a mouse struggling on one and i tried to get him off but his whole body was stuck on it and i couldn't do anything. it still haunts me.

:cry: :cry: :cry:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:01 AM
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2. That's why I didn't let myself stop and try, because I was afraid
I'd just make it worse.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:05 AM
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5. Dunk the trap in a bucket of vegatable oil-
dissolves the glue on the trap and won't hurt the meeses. Take the little fellas to a nearby park and sing "Born Free"
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:09 AM
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10. great idea!
thanks! i will get a bottle of vegetable oil before i go to work tomorrow and begin my quest to sabatoge all the mouse traps!
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:03 PM
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37. jlet them loose in a park though --not near apartment buildings
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:46 PM
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35. Unfortunately, you will be spreading vermin
Good old-fashioned mousetraps are cheap and effective.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:12 PM
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39. i've only rescued one mouse before
but i released it deep in the woods with no residential areas nearby... yes i care about people too
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:08 AM
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8. drown the poor thing
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 11:10 AM by sui generis
it's fast and more humane.

I'm too much of a softie to poison 'em - I have a cage trap for rats and mice and release them out by the lake. I'm probably feeding stray cats and feral songbirds. Shoot me.


on edit: cool about the veggie oil. I didn't know you could dissolve that stuff.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:19 AM
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17. But doesn't the oil make them easier for a feral cat to fry them up?
Or does it make them too slippery to catch?
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:17 AM
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16. I'd rather ....
watch it suffer in sticky traps than watch a cat chewing it up to pieces---I hate meeces to pieces!
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:03 AM
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3. I once lived in an apartment
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 11:04 AM by Sydnie
that did not allow pets when I got there. I did have some mice visiting my pantry. I did use glue traps for a short time. Once, I caught a mouse in one, I had no idea what to do with it and had such guilt watching it struggle in the glue. I finally placed the trap in a plastic bag. To attempt to alieviate the pain, I placed a cotton ball soaked in Ouzo next to the mouse's nose before closing the bag, since I had no ether available. It was the only thing I could think of to do.

I then convinced my landlord to allow me to get a cat. Problem was solved.

edited spelling
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:11 AM
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12. Amen.
That's what cats are for, really. It's why the Egyptians revered them. They're actually useful beings, as well as darn cute ones.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:04 AM
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4. Cats don't kill them humanely either
A cat will often play with them for a long, long time.
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cleofus1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:10 AM
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11. my old kitty
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 11:15 AM by cleofus1
used to just sit there with the mousy tail just hanging out of her mouth...i could see her cheeks jiggling as the live mouse struggled...
she would pop the mouse out onto the floor and play with it....then put the mouse back in its mouth...goood kitty
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:14 AM
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14. But you're less likely to have a mouse problem in the first place
if you have cats.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:07 AM
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6. there are humane or no/kill mouse traps available
but they tend to be expensive and time consuming... i guess it depends on how much that particular life means to you.
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:07 AM
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7. I hate cats! Should I get a dog to chase the cat??
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:09 AM
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9. There is no rescue for stuck mice.
Once they get on the glue they can't get off- ever. I am guilty of using the glue trap once when a momma mouse had her litter in my kitchen. I caught one and felt so bad about it I threw the rest of the traps away. I did end the poor things life quickly but I decided I would never buy the traps again.
I ended up using those little have a heart traps and caught a total of 12 mouses (including momma) I took them out to a state park near me and released them.
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VTMechEngr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:11 AM
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13. We had rats sneak in the den from outside.
Waited for them one day and took 2 out with a .177 air rifle. Instant Kills. Humane for them, but I was hurting from laying in wait for so long.
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:15 AM
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15. I've got the best mouser, she is a border collie mix
She loves it and thinks its her job
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:30 AM
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18. oh man, I used one ONCE, in the 80's, and never used one again.
I don't even like remembering it. I felt so helpless. And cruel. Today I have a Scottie who is a mouser; or I've used the old-fashioned spring traps; or what worked best of all was rehabbing the kitchen last year and closing off the entry points :)
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:05 PM
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19. sorry my respiratory health comes before the wellbeing of rodents
The doctor doesn't allow me to keep cats and dogs. I have no problem with trapping and killing mice and rats. They are rodents. They carry disease, including diseases that kill people. If they don't want to be trapped, they can live outdoors like nature intended. If that makes me a hard-hearted SOB, I'll wear the name proudly. Roof rats that some people think are cute little mices because they're so much smaller than Norway rats tore the heads off two of my birds and killed them. The safety of me and mine comes before the safety of vermin. People who are live-trapping vermin and transplanting them onto other people's property (and no doubt merrily spreading disease along the way) are doing a lot of harm -- and all to feed their ego, so they can pat themselves on the back about what good people they are.

Me, I'll stick with being an evil person that does the right thing even though it's difficult. Being a good person who does evil things like live-trapping and transporting rodents strikes me as just a bit too self-congratulatory for my tastes. And any mice or rats on my property will be dealt with. No one in the suburbs or countryside wants your unwanted live-trapped rodents, any more than we want your released feral cats, dogs, rabbits, squirrels, raccoons, sheesh, did I leave anything out?

Spreading disease is not cool and it is not kind.

OK, rant over. Sorry about that. But catch and release is for fish, ya'll.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72


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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:07 PM
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20. I saw one in a Wendys in NYC
It was stuck, of course, and an employee just picked it up and threw it in the trash. I felt so bad for the little critter.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:29 PM
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29. You're sure it was the trash and not the chili?
:scared:
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:09 PM
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21. Have you ever seen one dead from poison standing up on it's hind feet?
It was the most disgusting thing. Ewwwwwwwwww. It was right in front of our pop machine at work, in our tiny little lunch room.


That place had them so bad, that some of the other women named them. I got fed up the day that I went to throw away something in the trash can and all I saw was this gray blob jumping in my face. Combine that with having to wash down the eating area and sink area everyday because of mouse poop and pee because everyone else seemed to be quite content to eat around mouse turds. Took me a while, but I finally was able to convince the plant manager to allow some rat/mouse poison.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:10 PM
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22. Spring traps only
Quick and merciful.

BTW I have no sympathy for vermin INSIDE my house.

Thay should stay outside where they belong
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:26 PM
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26. spring traps are not always quick and merciful
I've had them catch the mouse or rat wrong, and it's still alive when I check the trap. Ewwww. Then comes the head-bashing and removal. But it's still better than spreading poison around and having them go off and rot somewhere. And way, way, way better than trapping them and setting them "free" to become somebody else's problem.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72


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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:12 PM
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23. I'll agree with that, but I do use glue traps - for Hobo, Black Widow and
Brown Recluse spiders. They work too; unfortunately, they tend to catch a lot of crickets along with the spiders.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:29 PM
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28. Okay, but spiders are eeeeevillll!
So I forgive you. :scared:
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:19 PM
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24. Nah, more fun and demented way
Put some corn in the middle of the floor. Turn off the lights, have some night vision goggles and an aluminum baseball bat. When they get settled in on a piece of corn. WHAMMMO. Just scrap it up on a spatula and some lysol on the floor. No more Mice problem.

:sarcasm:
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:23 PM
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25. Oh GOOD thinking. MUCH better to let a cat chew them, break their little
backs, and gnaw their little legs off while they're still alive!

AND THEN you have to clean the fucking litter box; keep fleas off the fucking cat; keep the fucking cat from shredding every item in your house and from shitting in the neighbor's yard AFTER you spend $100 getting it spayed and nuetered.

Thanks. I'll use the snap traps in the box that I don't have to see the little mousie squirming that kill the little rodent instantly instead. Tad easier.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:27 PM
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27. As long as you don't use glue traps.
:toast:
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:32 PM
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30. ugghhh i had to kill a mouse once because of one of those
i was in DC, staying with this kid for a night who worked for the same organization as me (though the DC chapter)...his roommate had set out a couple of those traps and we heard a squeaking...

i took him outside and it took a long time to get him off, finally he ran off but was so covered in the glue he couldn't move; just stuck in the grass

so i found a big rock and...well that's it

i figured it was better than just letting him sit there stuck in a bunch of grass...his entire belly was covered
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:35 PM
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31. If only you'd known of the vegetable oil solution.
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 12:37 PM by BurtWorm
See #5 above.

By the way, that's why I didn't even try to remove the little guys. I just imagined it was only going to get worse. I kind of hope a crow saw them and pecked them out of their misery. (Without getting its beak stuck.)
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:37 PM
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32. ah dammit i wish i would've known
poor guy
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:38 PM
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33. I Used Humane Traps, And A Couple Of Times, I Didn't Know I Had Caught
a mouse because I forgot to check them regularly and the poor things starved to death in the traps...I felt awful...
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:40 PM
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34. It's the thought that counts.
;)
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:59 PM
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36. I'm with you BurtWorm. Glue is just too gruesome.
I'm deathly afraid of them, and I want nothing to do with them, dead or alive. That's why I like to poison the little f*ckers. Put some D-Con out, they eat it, crawl off somewhere, and die. And they don't stink either.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:10 PM
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38. Amen, Bunny!
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 01:11 PM by BurtWorm
Poison the teeny fuckers, but don't torture them! :toast:
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