I hope a kid gets killed

Flame suit on:

Well, it happened again: I caught someone letting their kid ride around hanging off the front of a shopping cart. I told her it was dangerous and asked her to have the child ride. She told me to fuck off, she could raise her kid any fucking way she wanted to. (In those words!) Five feet later, the kid fell off the shopping cart.

One of these days, some poor kid with worthless freeper parents is gonna fall off into the path of a cart with 500 pounds of lumber or 600 pounds of concrete. He's going to be gravely injured, or killed. They're going to blame my company even though we paint "Do Not Ride On This Cart" on every cart we have. We put up signs. We train our people to be attentive to this hazard. We even have announcements on the PA. None of it works. Obviously, the only thing that will work is for some poor kid to die.

So this is my fervent hope: that some dumbass's kid dies a quick and relatively painless death after falling off the top of a shopping cart and hitting the back of his head on my concrete floor, a floor so very hard that only seven concrete companies in all America are certified to lay one, or on one of my high-strength steel beams. I hope it makes the front page of every newspaper in America. And I hope we, and the rest of the retail industry, will have the balls to post the newspaper article on the front doors of our stores. I'll buy forty copies of the paper that day and carry the article in my apron until the day I retire.

I don't want anyone to die, but since violent death is the only thing that will get these ignoramuses to change their ways, I hope the poor kid doesn't suffer when it happens.

And to the intelligent parents: please don't let your child ride around a store hanging off a cart. It's dangerous as hell.

a language they could understand. They'll get 4.7 million dollars, become meth addicts and blow up their mansion.

Store Support Center has a fancy electrostatic sign printer that can do signs any way you want them--you can get French, German, Oriental languages, even Polish and Russian if you want. But you always get English, Spanish and a picture of a kid hanging off the front of a cart with an International NO sign over it.

you know that.

Over on Aisle 13 we have axle grease.

A thin coating of axle grease around the rim of each cart will prevent the freepers' children from getting hold of the cart in the first place.

And there's no danger of ruining their clothing: freepers don't own laundry equipment.

consistantly too funny !!!

always crack me up.

the madness of the brewing theocracy.

I feel the same.

when they sue and find out tort 'reform' from Bush Cheney and Comapany has diddled their own dog? Might be the only benefit from it.

Especially, in the case you mention, I can think of two reasons to do so: one, for defying a safety rule and, two, for her public display of profanity.

There are some people who do stupid things, even if there are warnings and postings against doing it. One thing-since the signs are there, it is unlikely the parents of said unfortunate child would win a lawsuit. But why in the world would it have to come to this? Why don't people care about the safety of their children?

if some backwards freeper fuck's kid gets killed it'll be one less backwards freeper fuck in the gene pool.

Unfortunately, in the case of freepers it seems very difficult to do so. But I hold out hope.

When her kids were little, they never wore their seatbelts - I was appalled. I asked her why she didn't make them - her reply? "I can't. They won't keep them on." :wtf: Who the hell is the parent here? Who's in charge?

I took care of the little rat bastards on a couple of occasions (six of them - don't ask me why. She'd have them and then neglect them all). They bloody well wore their seatbelts in MY car. I flatly refused to drive if they weren't all buckled in and the minute one of them UN buckled, the car lurched to a stop and I told them flat out that I would not continue until they put it back on. End of problem.

Eventually, she got rear-ended - one of the smaller fry who was standing up in the back seat flew over the seats and crashed into the windshield, getting a concussion and needing a couple of stitches for the cut the rear view mirror gave him. If they'd been going faster, he would have been killed. Still didn't teach her anything, though.

If people like that had a kid die in such an accident, they wouldn't learn. They'd cry and moan and gnash their teeth and BLAME EVERYBODY ELSE but they wouldn't learn. Guaranteed.

Never buckled her kids in car seats or seat belts. Drove like a maniac. But the funny thing was she was really protective and particular about who they played with. Her kids rarely came outside and the other kids in the neighborhood finally stopped ringing her bell to see if her kids could play cause she always said no.

One time her son - about 5 at the time - got out of his house, roamed over to our yard, opened our gate, tried to play with our dog and got bit. She called the cops. Our dog had never bit anyone before that. The cops said it was obvious we had the dog in a fenced yard, there had never been any complaints about our dog before and we could accuse the kid of tresspassing in our yard. The bite was a small one - barely broke the skin - the dog had his shots and the cops didn't ticket us but told the neighbor her kid was too young to be outside unsupervised. The neighbor was pissed and never spoke to us again after that. She did try to complain to the city that we had a viscious dog but that didn't go anywhere.

I have often wondered about those kids. They would be in their 20s now. And I still can't understand how such an overly protective mom never put seatbelts on her kids.

She was an asshole. There is a huge difference.

ask me why do you call her overprotective? She is an idiot.

That's really dumb, to let the kid do that.

Well, if the kid falls and is maimed or dies, the parents won't be able to have a "frivilous lawsuit" against the company because they did not take "personal responsibility" for their spawn.

The worst kid-magnets are the ones that look like orange grocery carts.

And the worst situation is when someone lets their kid hang off the cart all the way out to the parking lot--the place where everyone has a huge vehicle full of lumber. They'll push the kid right across the front access road. A couple of 'em have almost been hit by full-size pickups.

Too bad the kid has to die for the parents' stupidity, but I guess it means one less freeper.

Wow, I've gotten mean.

I live in a red, red, red, part of a red state, and you should see the number of gun accidents here involving kids shooting guns (with permission from parents, btw) who are under 10.

Yeah, 10 years old and younger. Shooting guns. With parental permission.

It boggles the mind, but like I said, I guess that's Darwin at work, even though a lot of red staters don't believe in the Darwin stuff.

I learned to shoot a gun when I was 8 years old. However, my father was very careful about teaching us how to properly use and respect a weapon. I never knew anyone who had a gun accident until I was older and the people who did were those who'd never had any real training in using one - they'd just been given one or picked one up. Knowledge IS power.

I am not into guns myself, but I am amazed at how young the kids are.

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(I get the same response a LOT and, trust me, it ain't nowhere near as polite.)

...and Freeper, jr is screaming his head off in the booth/table next to me...I will definitely be in a homicidal mood, and not towards the kid!

That goes for movie theaters too.

No bad kids/dogs, just bad parenting! IMHO.

Demand to speak to the manager. Demand your money back and/or the offensive jerks be escorted out. You have a right to eat in peace, and parents need to be required to keep Bratley and Snottelina under control, or remove them from the premises.

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Dumb-ass woman had two kids on the front of the cart, in the parking lot, pushing the cart going full speed like it was some kind of amusement park ride. Wheeee! What a stupid bitch. Of course being a Saturday, the store was very busy, and the parking lot had cars going every which-way. Some people really shouldn't be breeding.

...are babies riding on their mother's laps in the car.

Having to deal with members of the public I see this a lot usually baby-breeding red state tourists who look like they live out of their car.

Having been in enough accidents to know what happens to a human body in sudden deceleration, the power of an airbag, etc. it really enrages me.

But since I would lose my job if I said anything, even if wanted to, I usually settle for a look and subtle nasty tone in my voice when I'm speaking to them. I've learned how to relay the message, but not enough to prove I'm being disrespectful.

I can't picture it and am not sure I've ever seen it.

I see this is food stores a lot, too.

Then again, I spend less time at big grocery stores than most people. I get more upset about dogs in the backs of pickup trucks, but I'd never wish any of them get killed.

is when the kid is facing towards the person pushing the cart, feet on the bottom rung-thing the wheels are fastened to, clutching the end of the cart.

Unless there is some new thing the kids are doing.

My personal favorite: kid hanging off the front, kid hanging off one side, kid hanging off the back between mom's hands, dad throwing ten bags of concrete (80 pounds per bag) into the cart.

I always go up to 'em and tell 'em "look, don't put this concrete in your cart because the cart can't handle the weight. I have the exact same thing outside right beside the door, all you have to do is tell the cashier how many bags you want, drive under the roof outside, hand your receipt to the lot guy and we'll put the concrete in your car. You don't have to handle it at all." (Eventually you learn which customers you can ask to get their kids off the cart. If a customer is 5 feet tall and has 6 foot long arms, save your breath.)

Now, this is how to tell the Democrats, Republicans and freepers apart. If you approach someone who is loading his/her first bag of concrete into the cart, and you tell them you have concrete right outside the door and we can ring it up through the computer because the price is in the machine...

A Democrat will thank you and go to the cashier
A Republican will continue to load concrete into the cart
And a freeper will tell you to load the concrete into the cart--and then get pissed off when you escort them to the register to pay for the concrete. "But...how will the machine know what concrete you're buying? (It's a computer, dipshit. It knows everything.)

I was just grocery shopping and I saw the same exact thing - parents allowing their kids to use the shopping cart as a jungle gym. And believe me, these are probably the same parents that will jump at a lawsuit if their kids fall off the car and busts up their head.

I think the perfect solution for management is simple - if they see a parent who allows their kids to carelessly play on shopping carts then the store management should hand them a piece of paper stating they are not responsible for any injuries caused.

And personally, if a customer is that rude to be dropping the F-bomb - then ask them to leave. There just isn't enough to be said about being polite and confronting folks that are rude.

The asshole parent won't follow the rules so the first born must be sacrificed to the public good.

Here's a hint, bunky: there is no way to stop kids from riding on the front of shopping carts, no matter what you say or do or print.

And there is no way to stop an asshole mother from being just that.

Grin and bear it.

Tell them not to get on the cart. If they continue to do it, use discipline to show them that YOU are the boss. If they continue to misbehave, leave the store.

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regardless of political affiliation.

and take a nosedive head first into the floor of a grocery store when his mother turned to get something out of a freezer case. I was about ten feet away with my own cart and dove but was too far away and too slow.

I can still see it in slow motion in my mind and it was HORRIFYING.

The sound was even worse. The mother turned around, I was gasping and wondering whether anyone should touch him (his neck bent as he landed) and someone ran to call 911. The mother started screaming and the kid was totally unresponsive.

He even TWITCHED. Then I saw the blood coming out on the floor under his head. I wanted to run away and not see it anymore but I stayed with her.

She kept yelling his name but he wasn't responding at all. Totally limp. The paramedics showed up and did their stuff, but I really don't think he was ok. As they were wheeling him out (VERY quickly) the mother started screaming a high-pitched shriek.

I really don't think he made it. He hit too hard, from quite a distance for a one year old.

that is terrible.
it's making me cry just reading it.

I left out the fact that I vomited in my purse after they left. And I have a stomach of steel.

:-(

I feel sorry for everyone involved in that situation. You really tried to save that kid. I'm so sorry you had to see that.

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I cannot imagine experiencing that... I'm so sorry that you had to. I wish I could take that picture out of your mind for you :hug:

How horrible.

Gonna re-fit my son's bike helmet after that one.

But I respect the freedom we are allowed on this board.

B-)

I was drawn right in.

I usually never enter the Lounge, but this one pulled me in.

i have almost hidden it about a dozen times. it turns my stomach.

died from falling off a shopping cart?

just curious. It is only about a 3 ft fall from the top of the cart and riding like the OP complained of would only be a fall of about 6 inches---and kids are generally pretty resilient. I am sure it is possible---but I have never heard of it happening. I assume the lawsuit would be quite big though....

BTW, the only person I personally know who has completely out of control really wild kids that I HATE to be around is also the most liberal Democrat that I have ever known in my life (she comes from a very wealthy Bay Area California family--her father is a HUGE Democratic contributor--on the order of hundreds of thousands of dollars per year spread out to various candidates and causes). She is a single parent and I have seen both her kids take numerous falls--sometimes landing directly on their heads on concrete (this happens frequently to the youngest girl she likes to stand on patio furniture and rock back and forth until she falls flat on her face on the concrete--her mother sits there watching and seems completely unconcerned). I had an over protective mother--so this is quite foreign behavior to me. I am always struggling--wanting to say something to her or the child--but she does not appreciate it when I do.

I no longer even visit this friend because I cannot stand being around her horrible children.

Poor parenting is not just a freeper affliction--unfortunately.

I'm especially thinking of the cantilever racking in the lumber aisles. That's made of very high quality steel, it's got pointy corners and there is a huge girder sitting on the floor as a base for the upright. If a child fell off a cart and hit the back of his head against that base girder, I think he'd be killed.

is generally the opposite of yours. I know exactly one Dem family who aren't doing a good job with their kids. The rest seem well-balanced and have properly behaved children.

Unfortunately, I know far more republican families who swing wildly between authoritarian and permissive styles, confusing the kids completely and providing no consistency or discipline at all.

:shrug:

As for dying from a fall onto concrete, oh yes, believe it. EVEN from a cart. I hope the child didn't die, but I saw one incident with my own eyes and it was not good. I'd give anything to have not seen that, but it did make me extraordinarily aware of my own daughter when it comes to shopping carts, etc.

whereas I live in area full of liberal people. So--the odds are that you will see more freeper parents and I will see more liberal families. (I have seen you complain before about the lack of liberals in your area.)

I think about 10% of all people suck as parents (regardless of political affiliation) and that this 10% probably should not be parenting--not not even so much as a kitty-cat.

You just see more freepers where you live and I see more liberal families where I live.

I wish the liberals were models of parenting--but unfortunately I have to speak the truth as I have seen it.

I don't know where you saw me griping about a lack of liberals. I may have griped about my freeper neighbors, I may have griped about living in a suburb (I'd rather be in Austin), but I've also talked on here about my suburb still has a strong union presence, the school board is almost completely peopled with Democrats and there are even three liberals on our good-ol' boy city council.

:shrug:

And I'm drawn far more to Dem friends than to repuke friends.

I'm not trying to be contrary here, but I know a fair share of both types of families. Both of us are talking anecdotes anyway.

your area of Texas--and I assumed that you were over run with freeper types and that you did not like it. BTW, when you see an incident such as the one you described at the market how did you know for certain that they were a freeper?

The person I told you all about I know her politics for sure certain--I actually had dinner with Art Torres (in charge of the Democratic party for the state of Ca at this woman's parents house). So I am not speculating--she is a terrible parent--but an extremely dedicated Democrat. Unfortunately, it does happen.

son fell out of the cart. I never even insinuated as such. I was simply relaying an accident in which a young child WAS seriously injured or killed (I never knew, but my feeling was he didn't make it) from falling out of a cart.

like a kid size bike. My husband works with someone whose son died after falling of a small bike with training wheels. The car isn't any farther a drop from the head to the ground than that.

Young kids should ride in the cart and be strapped in. I have walked away from grocery stores that didn't have straps on the seats and I've called to complain about it. These kinds of injuries are completely preventable.

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parents who have no common sense and endanger their children. At least it would protect the store from liability and maybe save a kid from a visit to an ER.



http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/5075.html



Consumer Product Safety Commission
Falls from Shopping Carts Cause Head Injuries to Children
CPSC Document #5075


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Falls from shopping carts are among the leading causes of head injuries to young children. The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) estimated that in recent years there were about 12,800 hospital emergency room-treated injuries annually to children 5 years and under associated with shopping carts. Of those, 5,700 were head injuries. About 25 percent were more serious head injuries such as concussions and fractures. These products are often used in hardware stores, drugstores, toy stores, and grocery stores.

To prevent falls from shopping carts:


Use seatbelts to restrain your child in the cart seat.


Don't allow your child to ride in the cart basket.


Don't allow your child to ride or climb on the sides or front of the cart.


Don't allow an older child to push the cart with another child in it.

It was fun, but I had to stop once I got too big.

Why don't you suggest to these parents that they'll have to leave if they persist in allowing this behavior? It might cause you to lose some customers, but it might also keep you from being taken to court if a kid gets hurt in the store you work in. I have a question. Why do you seem to think that these careless type of parents are freepers? Careless parents come in all stripes.

There are plenty of stupid Democrat parents, too.

C'mon...that kid could fall off the cart, smash his head and die. The media could blow it up into it's 14 seconds of outrage. The parents would sue, blah blah blah. Two days later, another kid will be on the cart. Why? People don't care...won't happen to me...my kid's not so stupid to fall off.

Every single day, somewhere, some SUV flips in a median, throwing the child inhabitants all over the place, killing them. Kids still ride w/out seatbelts. Every day a kid gets snatched from a grocery store. Yet every time I'm at Publix, I see an unattended cart with a small child in the seat.

If people actually learned and altered their behavior based on accidents and incidents, we'd have a lot fewer bad stories on our newscasts, fewer lawyers and lower insurance premiums.

The warnings are there. Everyone thinks it won't happen to them.

Shame on you. :spank:

Wanting a kid die because his parents are assholes will give you some sort of grim, smug satisfaction? A little kid will die, but damnit, jmowreader will be proven right! That'll show 'em!


Maybe you should change jobs. :eyes:

Using the National Electronic Injury Surveillance System of the United States Consumer Product Safety Commission is a common theme in this edition of Clinical Update. This time I found an article that looked at shopping cart injuries from this database for three years, 1990 to 1992 (Smith 1995). These authors looked at all children younger than 15 years who had sustained injuries from shopping carts. As expected, the vast majority of the injuries (84%) were seen in children younger than 5 years of age. The estimate for the number of children < 5 years of age to sustain shopping cart-related injuries were about 63,000 (21,000 per year). Boys and girls had similar estimated numbers. Again, about three-quarters of the injuries were to the head and neck. Again, about 2% were estimated to need hospital admission, 93% of these were in the < 5 years age group. This article referenced a few case reports and case series (Campbell 1990, US Consumer Product Safety Commission 1993, MMWR 1992). There were 2 deaths among these reports. A 3-year-old who died after falling from a shopping cart (US Consumer Product Safety Commission 1993) and an infant who was thrown to the ground when the shopping cart tipped over (MMWR 1992).

http://www.acep.org/webportal/MemberCenter/SectionsofMembership/PediatricEmergencyMedicine/NewsletterArticles/InjuriesAssociatedStrollersHighChairsShoppingCarts.htm

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