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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:15 PM
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My brother and an upcoming family event
Background: We learned last year that our family is not quite as functional as we all thought. My brother and his wife were having an anniversary and their daughter threw them a party at her house. My sister replied to the invitation that she and her partner would be there. It turned out that the partner couldn't come. We learned later that the partner wasn't welcome. This caused a big row in my family. Eventually my sister came to the conclusion that (as she puts it) "my brother died this year."

One of the biggest ironies is that freeper brother has two kids who have been accused of sexual assault and one is currently doing time in a juvenile facility. The kid is 14 years old and is a registered sex offender.

My sister is not the only gay person in my family. My other brother is gay, and one other sister is gay (3 for 6 among my siblings).


Jump forward: we've got a family event coming up in June.

So my gay brother (I hate using that phrase but I'm trying to differentiate between the two) is thinking up clever things he can put on a T-shirt to express his unhappiness with the situation.

I suggested "WWJW?" (As in, Who Would Jesus Welcome?) but my brother is now thinking of wearing a shirt that says "At least your kids aren't GAY!"

Much as I love the sentiment, I'm worried that this might start things up again. Of course, I have no control over any of it, but, it's got me thinking.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:23 PM
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1. I think I'd encourage him to be the adult
That is just my opinion, of course. Someone has to be the adult. :shrug: Wearing a t-shirt designed to get a reaction out of a sibling at a family event is probably along the lines of juvenile.

It would be more appropriate to send out a family letter, stating his views on the subject. More direct, more adult. Less disfunctional.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:27 PM
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2. As someone from a drastically dysfunctional family myself....
I'd go for the "At least your kids aren't gay" option for your brother. My family began disintegrating 25 years ago when my dad died, and has hit maximum suckage.

My brother is and always has been a selfish asshole. He wants to have nothing to do with my mother or I (he decided he didn't need to attend my wedding, so that pretty much cinched it for me)....

And my mom is a control freak. Other DUers have heard me speak of her violent words towards me and death threats.

I no longer worry about WHAT my "family" thinks. I'm closer to cousins I've met doing genealogy and some DUers than I am my own family. If your "non-gay" brother is going to treat his own family with absolutely no respect, I think they're perfectly justified to return the favor. And you have my condolences.

FSC

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:28 PM
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3. MissMillie
I very much believe teenage sex offenders can be rehabilitated; PLEASE see that the child gets serious counseling.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:29 PM
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4. That's part of his program at this
particular facility.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:35 PM
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15. please try to stay in his life
he desperately needs positive role models
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:31 PM
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5. I'd throw my own party and disinvite anyone accused of sexual assault...
...I mean, I know I don't want any deviants at my party!
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:41 PM
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6. I may be a little thick but
did freeper brother tell gay sister that partner wasn't welcome? In my particular family stupid sister in law told earring wearing brother (not husband) that he couldn't hold her son because she wanted to make sure he knew what a man was. My brother had nothing to do with that. Thus, if it was not the brother but his daughter who made wouldn't welcome the partner, i would try not to make a row. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't wear the WWJW shirt. I would wear it anyway.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:44 PM
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8. Boy, your S-I-L is a real sweetie, isn't she?
Wow! :hi: Pirate!
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:49 PM
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9. Hey back at ya!
Yea, we all love her dearly! LOL
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 02:01 PM
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10. yes
Freeper brother says sis can go to his home, but her partner is not welcome.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 02:06 PM
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11. Uggh, i wouldn't go at all.
I'd have your gay siblings over at your house.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 02:11 PM
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12. That would break my mother's heart
It's really just the one brother who has the problem, the rest of us are "family"!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 02:13 PM
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14. What does your mom say about you're freeper brothers attitude?
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 02:11 PM
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13. WWJW shirts are the way to go
makes a statement and it may wake up your fb
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:42 PM
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7. Tell him to wear something that's just veiled commentary
like a purple t-shirt, or a rainbow wristband, or something. Then, even if they seethe, they can't really complain.
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:38 PM
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16. your brother's married and you JUST learned your family is dysfunctional?
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 09:41 PM by Kire
:hi:
okay, I'll read the rest of your post now

Edit: sorry about that, sounds pretty crazy. Remember, there are four corners in every room. If two of them are taken, you still have options.
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